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  • Herbert better than Wilson lol!!!!

    NFL record Herbert 15-17 Wilson 104-53-1p
    Herbert playoff wins 0 / Wilson 9
    Conference championships herbert 0 / Wilson 2
    Superbowl titles herbert 0 / Wilson 1
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    On a QB vs QB talent wise, Herbert is better than Wilson. Wilson has been been in the league longer and has more accomplishments with better assembled teams, think legion of boom.
    Apples to apples Aaron Rodgers is a better QB then Tom Brady but Brady has more accomplishments cause of having a better assembled team/coaching staff around him.
    Herbert being a better QB then Wilson, isn’t a knock on Wilson.

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    • #3
      as if this "debate" hasn't been beaten to death already? all you want to talk about are wins and ignore everything else.

      Chargers allowed 27.0 PPG in 2021 (T-3rd-most in NFL)
      Chargers started 8-5 but lost 3 of final 4 games to miss playoffs...
      Chargers scored 28+ pts in each of those 3 losses (vs KC, at HOU, at LV) 3 losses when scoring 28+ pts was the most by any team in the NFL in 2021

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      Russell Wilson hasn't done jack crap without a good running game and defense to help him, let alone having one of the worst defenses and special teams to hold him back.

      if only you were interested in engaging in an actual debate rather than just posting nonsense?

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        even rivers has gotten MVP votes. maybe its because Wilson has always been a glorified game manager in Seattle? he's won games sure, with the help of great defenses and a running game.

        im not saying he isn't a good QB, he certainly is. but there is a reason the vast majority put him as a top 7-10 QB currently in the NFL at best.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by baphamet View Post
          as if this "debate" hasn't been beaten to death already? all you want to talk about are wins and ignore everything else.

          Chargers allowed 27.0 PPG in 2021 (T-3rd-most in NFL)
          Chargers started 8-5 but lost 3 of final 4 games to miss playoffs...
          Chargers scored 28+ pts in each of those 3 losses (vs KC, at HOU, at LV) 3 losses when scoring 28+ pts was the most by any team in the NFL in 2021

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          Russell Wilson hasn't done jack crap without a good running game and defense to help him, let alone having one of the worst defenses and special teams to hold him back.

          if only you were interested in engaging in an actual debate rather than just posting nonsense?
          So 3 losses when scoring 28+ pts and still losing equates to 3 big time choke & puke losses at the end of the season when wins are kind of important. I believe the Broncos will own the sparklers this year.
          Utah Bronco Freak

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Locutus View Post
            On a QB vs QB talent wise, Herbert is better than Wilson. Wilson has been been in the league longer and has more accomplishments with better assembled teams, think legion of boom.
            Apples to apples Aaron Rodgers is a better QB then Tom Brady but Brady has more accomplishments cause of having a better assembled team/coaching staff around him.
            Herbert being a better QB then Wilson, isn’t a knock on Wilson.
            Herbert is better? What has he done again?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by baphamet View Post


              even rivers has gotten MVP votes. maybe its because Wilson has always been a glorified game manager in Seattle? he's won games sure, with the help of great defenses and a running game.

              im not saying he isn't a good QB, he certainly is. but there is a reason the vast majority put him as a top 7-10 QB currently in the NFL at best.
              Noted !!!! Wilson playoffs 8 out of 10 years not good!!!! Playoffs 0 out of 2 seasons good!!!!!
              Lol!!! and you call me a homer !!!! you have exalted a guy ELITE that has never been too the playoffs ??? what a clown!!!!
              At least Rivers got the bolts in the playoffs!!!!
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              • #8
                Everyone for one minute think about what we are talking about!!!! We are comparing a young talented but hasn’t proven anything QB to a guy who has a Superbowl ring and 9 playoff wins.

                We are suppose to believe Herbert is elite due to his stats, but Wilson has thrown 40 tds in a season and 30 plus tds 5 times in his career.

                Herbert is good but to say he is better than Wilson without ever playing in a playoff game let alone winning a playoff game just shows how pathetic fans have become!!!!!!

                Herbert would be lucky to hold Wilson’s beer!!!!

                Herbert has two all pro’s on his oline, two pro bowl wide receivers a talented dual threat running back and elite defensive talent in Joey Bosa and Derwin James, oh and according to Baphs a great head coach in Brandon Staley and he couldn’t beat derek carr, and interim coach and the league 26th ranked defense ?
                Weird ?????????
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jazzbodog View Post

                  So 3 losses when scoring 28+ pts and still losing equates to 3 big time choke & puke losses at the end of the season when wins are kind of important. I believe the Broncos will own the sparklers this year.
                  When both teams were healthy denver straight owned the Sparklers!!! Herbert looked like trash!!!! Then he beat the broncos practice squad in the rematch, and that the game baphs thinks is how our squads match up but when Herbert looked horrible vs the Texans that was because of Covid. Herbert is the only Elite QB I have ever scene who needs an elite defense and special teams to win, and he apparently has a great coach who seems sus to me!
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                  • #10
                    Wilson game winning postseason play!!!!
                     
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                    • #11
                      People forget that the 26th defense made herbert struggle in that big game last year that everyone praises Herbert for losing!!!!!!!
                      Herbert elite vs 26th defense ???
                       
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                      • #12
                        baphs response to questioning if herbert is Elite yet!!!

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                        baphs: “ leave Justin alone!!!!!!”
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                          Herbert is better? What has he done again?
                          Read my post again if it helps you comprehend what I clearly stated.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 58Miller View Post
                            Everyone for one minute think about what we are talking about!!!! We are comparing a young talented but hasn’t proven anything QB to a guy who has a Superbowl ring and 9 playoff wins.

                            We are suppose to believe Herbert is elite due to his stats, but Wilson has thrown 40 tds in a season and 30 plus tds 5 times in his career.

                            Herbert is good but to say he is better than Wilson without ever playing in a playoff game let alone winning a playoff game just shows how pathetic fans have become!!!!!!

                            Herbert would be lucky to hold Wilson’s beer!!!!

                            Herbert has two all pro’s on his oline, two pro bowl wide receivers a talented dual threat running back and elite defensive talent in Joey Bosa and Derwin James, oh and according to Baphs a great head coach in Brandon Staley and he couldn’t beat derek carr, and interim coach and the league 26th ranked defense ?
                            Weird ?????????
                            You’re conflating team success with individual talent.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Locutus View Post
                              You’re conflating team success with individual talent.
                              So when the chargers lose its the teams fault when they win its Herbert?

                              Wilson meanwhile played on a worse team than Herbert in a harder division and made the playoffs in the last two years. He gets no credit for that according to you that is team success. You Herbert fan boys are something else!!!
                              Last edited by 58Miller; 07-04-2022, 05:33 PM.
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