Just noticed something about the SEC

[DrunkPanda]

you know how the sec fans claim that the SEC is such a tough conference that none of the other conferences can even comprehend what an sec schedule is? and that sec teams have to play their hardest to win every week, unlike other conferences in which they would be able to play their third stringers the whole game and still go undefeated?
well... without bias, try to name any team in the sec that was really good this year....

i came up with florida, lsu, and georgia... if you had told me beforehand that someone could make you believe something just by shouting it in your ear over and over endlessly, i would have said you were crazy and the brain doesn't work like that. but apparently it does, without looking closely at the sec i just assumed they had a lot of really great teams in it this year, but then i actually looked at which teams made up the sec conference. they have their pathetic teams, their average teams, and their good teams like every other conference. imagine my surprise.

p.s. i have to say this again, the SEC SEC chant at the national championship game was so laughably pathetic

[Gator Broncos]

Clearly you are biased, but the SEC has more than 3 good teams. Tennessee is a solid team, and Auburn also played pretty darn well this year too. To judge the quality of a team based on wins and losses is missing the point in the SEC. Yeah, every team in the SEC lost twice, but you have to watch the games to appreciate the level of play/talent/competition. I still challenge anyone in the country to play an SEC schedule for a year. I guarantee they won't ask for seconds.

What is pathetic, is the fact that big 10 fans can't admit defeat, and that anyone would challenge the SEC as not being the best conference. The Big 12 is the only other conference with a leg to stand on in that argument.

[DrunkPanda]

i just noticed something else. the sec fans here aren't that bad. i check out the free rivals board from time to time and that place is about 90% sec fans and all of the threads are about sec fans giving each other *******s. it really irritates me but i can't post there, so i've been using this place to vent. i'll stop now

[BroncoBJ4MVP!!!]

ROFLMFAO.
The Sec is by far the toughest and best conference.
Damn get a clue

Its okay though. A little biased never hurt anyone.

[BaileyTheBest]

I think the fact that we had 10 bowl eligible teams and 1 with 5 wins pretty much speaks for itself. Top to bottom, there's no question that the SEC is tge best conference. The only really bad team in the SEC this season was Ole Miss. Name me another conference that had ONLY one really bad team.

[RunYouOver]

Off the top of my head...

Florida, LSU, Georgia, Tennessee, Kentucky, Auburn, Arksansas, and two that were pretty good: Alabama and South Carolina.

So, uh yeah...

Good thread, except not so much.

[DrunkPanda]

I think the fact that we had 10 bowl eligible teams and 1 with 5 wins pretty much speaks for itself. Top to bottom, there's no question that the SEC is tge best conference. The only really bad team in the SEC this season was Ole Miss. Name me another conference that had ONLY one really bad team.

that's what i really disagree with. your top 3 could probably beat any other conference's top 3 a lot of the time but ouside of them, your conference is equal with the other conferences.
"top to bottom" the sec is NOT "without question" better than any other conference. look at last year, who was bad? vandy, ole miss, south carolina, southern miss, and kentucky. and those are the teams that are usually bad year in year out.

[ChampWJ]

that's what i really disagree with. your top 3 could probably beat any other conference's top 3 a lot of the time but ouside of them, your conference is equal with the other conferences.
"top to bottom" the sec is NOT "without question" better than any other conference. look at last year, who was bad? vandy, ole miss, south carolina, southern miss, and kentucky. and those are the teams that are usually bad year in year out.

You're wrong, again. The SEC IS the deepest, strongest conference right now. Go look at the conference bowl records, and stop ignoring the facts.

And if you want to know why the SEC has a few "bad" teams every year, it's because they have to go on the road to Florida, Georgia, LSU, Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, etc. When half the conference is made up of great teams, it's only natural for the other half to be average or below. The records of the bottom SEC teams are skewed because of who they play. Kind of like the Hawaii's and Boise State's that have inflated records because of their conference schedules.

[DrunkPanda]

wow. i'm only going to say this one more time and then i give up.
THE SEC IS NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY CONFERENCE THAT PLAYS TOUGH TEAMS.
so you say that the bad teams in the sec are bad because they have to play the good teams in the sec? OH WOW, YOU TOTALLY BLEW MY MIND. I DIDN'T KNOW THE WEAKER TEAMS IN THAT CONFERENCE HAD TO PLAY THE TOUGHER TEAMS. AFTER ALL, IT'S NOT LIKE THE WEAK TEAMS IN THE OTHER CONFERENCES HAVE TO PLAY HARD CONFERENCE OPPONENTS

[BaileyTheBest]

that's what i really disagree with. your top 3 could probably beat any other conference's top 3 a lot of the time but ouside of them, your conference is equal with the other conferences.
"top to bottom" the sec is NOT "without question" better than any other conference. look at last year, who was bad? vandy, ole miss, south carolina, southern miss, and kentucky. and those are the teams that are usually bad year in year out.

First of all, southern miss isn't in the SEC, they are in C-USA. Second, I was mainly referring to this season. Top to bottom, the SEC was the best conference. The only bad team was Ole Miss. Vandy, Alabama, and South Carolina weren't great but they were still average teams. If you can name me one other conference that only had ONE bad team this season, I will concede this argument. Also, the SEC was 7-2 in bowls this season. Best of all the BCS conferences. And, no one said we are the ONLY conference who plays tough teams. You are putting words in our mouths. Other conferences have really good teams, but top to bottom the SEC is the best.

[ChampWJ]

wow. i'm only going to say this one more time and then i give up.
THE SEC IS NOT AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE THEY ARE NOT THE ONLY CONFERENCE THAT PLAYS TOUGH TEAMS.
so you say that the bad teams in the sec are bad because they have to play the good teams in the sec? OH WOW, YOU TOTALLY BLEW MY MIND. I DIDN'T KNOW THE WEAKER TEAMS IN THAT CONFERENCE HAD TO PLAY THE TOUGHER TEAMS. AFTER ALL, IT'S NOT LIKE THE WEAK TEAMS IN THE OTHER CONFERENCES HAVE TO PLAY HARD CONFERENCE OPPONENTS

You just don't get it. There are other good conferences. I don't see how you can't see that the SEC is the deepest, top-to-bottom. Since you want to talk about teams from other conferences playing hard opponents, Why don't we take a look at strength of schedule and compare.

Kentucky - 8-5, 9th hardest schedule in the country
S. Carolina - 6-6, 7th hardest schedule
Ole Miss - 3-9, 4th hardest schedule
Alabama, 7-6, 20th hardest schedule

Now lets look at some of teams from other conferences:

Baylor - 3-9, 39th hardest schedule
Iowa St - 3-9, 27th hardest schedule
Syracuse - 2-10, 46th hardest schedule
Minnesota - 1-11, 32nd hardest schedule
Indiana - 7-6, 66th hardest schedule
Iowa - 6-6, 88th hardest schedule
Northwestern - 6-6, 76th hardest schedule
Washington State - 5-7, 63rd hardest schedule
Cal - 7-6, 45th hardest schedule
Miami - 5-7, 74th hardest schedule
North Carolina - 4-9, 59th hardest schedule
Boise State - 10-3, 106th hardest schedule
Hawaii - 12-1, 110th hardest schedule

So lets go ahead and break that down more. Let's say 3-9 Ole Miss played 3-9 Baylor's 39th hardest schedule instead of their own 4th hardest. Think they would still be 3-9? Highly doubtful. Or how about 6-6 South Carolina playing 6-6 Iowa's 88th hardest schedule instead of their own 7th hardest. I bet they would have a better record than Iowa did against that schedule. You could also make a case that if those teams played in the SEC, their records would be worse based on these facts.

It says a lot about the overall strength of a conference when the last place SEC team plays a much tougher schedule than most of the other conference champions (USC-64th, Ohio St-34th, WVU-29th, Oklahoma-24th).

[Bronco_Armada]

SEC in my unprofessional opinion is one of the most toughest, physical, quickest, loudest con. in college football.

Not to mention their fans are probably the biggest in football. (I think Texas, Georgia, and Alabama have the greatest fans in football obviously there a dozen others or more but I think those are the top 3)

I have never checked it out but I am willing to bet a CP the SEC has more pro drafts than any other college conference.

[Bronco_Armada]

Syracuse - 2-10, 46th hardest schedule

Don't put the 'Cuse up their. They don't deserve to have a football program anymore. At least as long as they keep the current head of Syracuse athletics. He turned Syracuse football from bad to worse.

He needs to be fired. He went to the last game of the season against Cin. and every time the ‘cuse scored a TD he showed no excitement, all he did was stuff his face with chicken and beer. And when asked about the past 3 god awful seasons and how he was going to fix things.

"That is something I need to evaluate in the future"

He's a crook. Gets paid. does nothing. I want him out of NEW YORK NOW!

[ChampWJ]

Don't put the 'Cuse up their. They don't deserve to have a football program anymore. At least as long as they keep the current head of Syracuse athletics. He turned Syracuse football from bad to worse.

He needs to be fired. He went to the last game of the season against Cin. and every time the ‘cuse scored a TD he showed no excitement, all he did was stuff his face with chicken and beer. And when asked about the past 3 god awful seasons and how he was going to fix things.

"That is something I need to evaluate in the future"

He's a crook. Gets paid. does nothing. I want him out of NEW YORK NOW!

Whoa, easy Armada! Better days will come, my friend. Here's something to cheer you up.

[broncofan303]

Yes, the SEC IS usually at top 2 conference every year.. I've said it before but this year is really an exception... I think you have to put the Big 12 up at first.. I know everybody would accuse me of being a home which is true.. but look at it this way...

Missouri waxed the same Arkansas team that beat LSU.. Kansas really didn't have any problems with VT at all, the same "quality" win LSU fans were talking about them waxing... throw in Texas's quality win, CU hanging with Bama ( I know, not saying much), Tech, ignoring OUs Fiesta collapses, they're still a talented team I would line up against any SEC team this year .. That makes a darn good conference ..

Not saying this is the case every year.. last year SEC was #1, and next year I wouldn't be shock to see LSU, Florida, or Georgia on the top again and putting SEC at #1 once again..