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Ok all, this Turtle may have some bad news to report.
Looks like KState hasn't been offering very much to said TE and he may be looking to play elsewhere! The old coach was much more interested in the TE, so I am sorry if I got you excited about having the best TE in the world play for you!
Well, shoot! He's gotta do what's best for himself! I'll still be hoping, tho!!!
Ok all, this Turtle may have some bad news to report.
Looks like KState hasn't been offering very much to said TE and he may be looking to play elsewhere! The old coach was much more interested in the TE, so I am sorry if I got you excited about having the best TE in the world play for you!
If Freeman comes back next year I don't think KSU will struggle in 2009. They have a very favorable schedule. After that they will go back to playing 4 cupcakes in the non con(yes, they have Miami and UCLA scheduled but Snyder is already trying to get out of those...what a surprise.)
KSU was on the downhill slide when Snyder left the first time. It's not like Prince had some stacked team to inherit. Prince was terrible and I have no problem with him being fired but I can't believe they could not get someone else to take the job.
Now, I would love for Reesing and the Jayhawks to go to Manhattan next year and kick the absolute crap out of the old mans team. And I think they just might.
Of course you would have this opinion.... you're a gayhawk fan....
I don't see the point in bringing Snyder back. I think KSU should've went after Patterson(TCU) or someone that can energize the fanbase. I don't think that happens with Snyder. Sure he's a legend at KSU, but I don't see his way, especially with recruiting, improving things at KSU.
Not a flame. I just don't think this was a good move.
If Freeman comes back next year I don't think KSU will struggle in 2009. They have a very favorable schedule. After that they will go back to playing 4 cupcakes in the non con(yes, they have Miami and UCLA scheduled but Snyder is already trying to get out of those...what a surprise.)
KSU was on the downhill slide when Snyder left the first time. It's not like Prince had some stacked team to inherit. Prince was terrible and I have no problem with him being fired but I can't believe they could not get someone else to take the job.
Now, I would love for Reesing and the Jayhawks to go to Manhattan next year and kick the absolute crap out of the old mans team. And I think they just might.
What K-State fan isn't stoked, if the rumor turns out to be true? I just hope it isn't a Joe Gibbs thing. I mean, the man single handedly resurrected the football program from the grave, turning the losingest program in Div 1 history into a 11 straight bowl team and in 2003 they won their 1st conference title since 1934.
Ron Prince had started to run the thing back down, and you want to know how I feel? I feel as giddy as a love struck school girl!! :thumb:
i don't think firing Ron Prince in the middle of his 3rd season was the right thing to do. Seems to me, the K-Stater's want success and victory right this very minute, when in reality, it's something that has to be built.
Originally posted by Straz1999
I think the re-hire is going to be a mistake. There's a reason that Snyder stepped down in the first place. I remember 10 years ago when people were hoping OU would re-hire Switzer after Blake was fired, just to get some prestige back. I wasn't sure what to think, and when I heard that we hired a defensive coordinator from Florida instead of John Cooper or Gary Barnett, I was kind of shocked.
However, it turned out to be the right hire, I guess.
I couldn't agree with you more. There are plenty of candidates out there, but what happens in 5 or 6 more years when Snyder wants to step down again? So they trade 3 years of struggle, for 3 years of success with Snyder, then go right back in the tank? that doesn't make a lot of sense.
bad call in my opinion on K-State's part. I could understand if they were bringing in Snyder as a consultant (like Nebraska did with Tom Osborne) but seriously, this is not the way K-State fan wants to go in the long run. It'll be a shame to see a man like Snyder tarnish the legacy he worked so hard to build.
I think the re-hire is going to be a mistake. There's a reason that Snyder stepped down in the first place. I remember 10 years ago when people were hoping OU would re-hire Switzer after Blake was fired, just to get some prestige back. I wasn't sure what to think, and when I heard that we hired a defensive coordinator from Florida instead of John Cooper or Gary Barnett, I was kind of shocked.
However, it turned out to be the right hire, I guess.
What K-State fan isn't stoked, if the rumor turns out to be true? I just hope it isn't a Joe Gibbs thing. I mean, the man single handedly resurrected the football program from the grave, turning the losingest program in Div 1 history into a 11 straight bowl team and in 2003 they won their 1st conference title since 1934.
Ron Prince had started to run the thing back down, and you want to know how I feel? I feel as giddy as a love struck school girl!! :thumb:
K-State Drops Cyclones in Finale
Released 11/22/2008 by Kansas State University
MANHATTAN, Kan. (AP) - Josh Freeman threw four touchdown passes and Kansas State sent Ron Prince out a winner, beating Iowa State 38-30 Saturday three weeks after the Wildcats fired their embattled coach.
Prince, hired three seasons ago without any previous head coaching experience, leaves with a record of 17-20. The victory enabled the Wildcats (5-7, 2-6 Big 12) to squeeze past Iowa State (2-10, 0-8) and escape last place in the Big 12 North.
Kansas State has not yet hired a replacement for Prince, although athletic director Bob Krause said when announcing the firing that he wanted to pick a successor before the end of the season. Among those whose names have been mentioned are TCU coach Gary Patterson and former Kansas State coach Bill Snyder, who retired after the 2005 season and was followed by Prince.
Prince's Big 12 record got progressively worse, going from 4-4 in 2006 to 3-5 last year and 2-6 in 2008. Given a contract extension before this season, he was rewarded with a buyout of almost $1.3 million when he was fired but asked to stay for the three final games. The Wildcats got blown out by Missouri and Nebraska in their first two games with a lame duck coach.
The future could become similarly perilous for Gene Chizik, who is 5-19 in two seasons as Iowa State head coach. After winning their first two games, the Cyclones ended the season on a 10-game losing streak.
Austen Arnaud was 31-for-45 for 440 yards and three touchdowns for Iowa State, which lost its 17th straight on the road and has given up 226 points in its last five games.
Brandon Banks had seven catches for 116 yards for Kansas State, including a 20-yard touchdown, and became the sixth receiver in school history to go over 1,000 yards in a season.
It might also have been the last game at Kansas State for Freeman, the 6-foot-6 junior quarterback who holds career school records for attempts, completions, yards, touchdowns and total offense. Freeman, whose four TD passes tied a school record, has said he intends to come back for his senior season. But an early entry into the NFL might be tempting if he's assured of first-round draft status.
The most highly sought recruit Prince signed at Kansas State, Freeman was 17-for-30 for 279 yards and four TDs against Iowa State's weak defense. The four touchdown passes had been accomplished 12 other times.
Freeman showed on several throws why NFL scouts have been at every game. His first scoring pass was a beauty of a 44-yard strike to Deon Murphy, who was double-covered but caught the ball perfectly in stride. He also snapped off a 5-yard TD pass to Murphy that made it 35-17 in the third quarter and connected with Ernie Pierce on a 19-yard strike after Josh Moore interception.
Lamark Brown's 1-yard run gave Kansas State a 7-0 lead in the first quarter after Ian Campbell blocked his third field goal of the year, a Kansas State record.
Arnaud threw TD passes of 19 and 5 yards to R.J. Sumrall and 28 to Marquis Hamilton. His 5-yarder to Sumrall came as the final seconds of the season ticked off.
Apparently the 'Cats must've just given up after ass kickings by good teams. There's not really any other explaination to losing to Nebraska...
[B]K-State drops 56-28 decision to Nebraska
Released 11/15/2008 by Kansas State University
MANHATTAN, Kan. (AP)—Junior Brandon Banks tallied 167 yards in kick returns, including a 98-yard touchdown jaunt, as Kansas State dropped a 56-28 decision to Nebraska on Saturday afternoon at Bill Snyder Family Stadium.
Nebraska senior quarterback Joe Ganz accounted for 365 total yards and four touchdowns and the Cornhuskers (7-4, 4-3 Big 12) dropped Kansas State for the second straight year.
The Huskers did it with a balanced attack this time, punishing the Wildcats (4-7, 1-6) at the line of scrimmage for 340 yards and four touchdowns rushing. They complemented it with Ganz’s arm to finish with 610 total yards.
Nebraska established the running game early. Roy Helu Jr. scored on runs of 1 and 24 yards, and Quentin Castille had a 37-yarder on a fourth-and-1 late in the first quarter.
That set up Ganz, who had 270 yards and two touchdowns on 16-of-25 passing after his first attempt of the game was intercepted and returned for a touchdown. He also had 95 yards rushing on 11 carries, scoring on runs of 25 and 14 yards in the fourth quarter.
Nebraska’s defense wasn’t bad, either.
The Cornhuskers finally earned the coveted Blackshirts in practice this week and responded by harassing Kansas State quarterback Josh Freeman from the opening snap and completely squashing the Wildcats’ running game.
Freeman, the nation’s 13th-ranked passer at 292 yards per game, faced constant pressure and was sacked five times. He had to hurry or throw off his back foot on several other throws, going 7-for-18 for 114 yards before being replaced by Carson Coffman midway through the third quarter.
Kansas State’s running game certainly didn’t help, managing a dismal 59 yards on 32 carries.
The result was another disappointing finish for the Wildcats, who had hoped for a little revenge after Nebraska piled it on last year in Lincoln and to maybe pull out two wins to send coach Ron Prince to a bowl in his final season in the Little Apple.
Kansas State at least seemed to have a chance early.
Courtney Herndon intercepted Ganz’s first pass of the afternoon and returned it 57 yards for a touchdown, then Freeman answered two Nebraska TDs by hitting Ernie Pierce on a 63-yard scoring pass to tie it at 14-all.
The momentum carried over to the defense, which held Nebraska to three plays and a punt.
Then Deon Murphy fumbled the punt at his own 30. Momentum gone.
Helu scored two plays later on a 24-yard run. Ganz hit Todd Peterson for a 5-yard touchdown pass on the next possession, then found Mike McNeill for an 18-yard score to put Nebraska up 35-14.
Kansas State had a chance to pull closer in the closing seconds of the first half, but Nebraska pressured Freeman into an incompletion after Prince decided to go for a touchdown instead of a field goal.
I wish they'd save these firing announcements until after the season. I think it only hurts the team for the rest of the season. If only we had a stinkin defense. :doh:
K-State falls to No. 13 Missouri, 41-24
Released 11/08/2008 by Kansas State University
COLUMBIA, Mo. (AP)—Jeremy Maclin scored three touchdowns and totaled 278 all-purpose yards, helping No. 13 Missouri shake off a slow start in its home finale and beat Kansas State 41-24 Saturday night to grab first place in the Big 12 North.
Missouri (8-2, 4-2 Big 12) took control with 17 points in the final 5:46 of the half, including a pair of touchdown passes from Chase Daniel to Maclin. Maclin had eight receptions for 118 yards and two TDs, four carries for 84 yards and a third TD on a 56-yard jaunt on a direct snap.
Kansas State (4-6, 1-5) has lost five of six under head coach Ron Prince, the latest setback coming only three days after Prince was fired effective at the end of the season.
It was a familiar feeling of helplessness for the Kansas State defense, burned by Maclin as a freshman last year for three touchdowns and a school-record 360 yards total offense in Manhattan, Kan. Maclin entered the game averaging 189.67 all-purpose yards, second in the nation.
The Tigers got a strong effort from their lightly regarded defense to beat Kansas State for the third straight time after losing 13 in a row to the Wildcats.
Kansas State scored twice—Brandon Banks’ 93-yard run and a 3-yard touchdown pass from Carson Coffman to Banks—in the final 1:11 to make the final appear respectable.
It was an emotional senior day for the Tigers. The father of linebacker Aaron O’Neal, who died after a voluntary summer workout in 2005 and never played for Missouri, led a procession of 23 seniors who have combined for 35 wins over four seasons in a pre-game ceremony.
Missouri is 11-2 against the North the last three seasons and can clinch its second straight Big 12 championship game berth next week with a victory at Iowa State combined with a Kansas loss at home against No. 5 Texas.
Missouri tight end Chase Coffman, averaging 10 catches the last four games, missed the game with a sprained big toe. The offense seemed out-of-sync early without Daniel’s most consistent pass-catcher, running only seven plays on its first two possessions.
Blair Irvin’s interception ended Missouri’s first possession after only two plays, and the second drive netted one first down.
Two big plays from Maclin helped the Tigers open things up. He won a foot race on a simple swing pass on a 42-yard score, one play after Will Ebner’s blocked punt, and caught a 16-yard touchdown pass on one leg in the back of the end zone.
Kansas State trailed 24-3 at the half and barely avoided getting shut out in the first 30 minutes for the second straight game, getting a 43-yard field goal from Brooks Rossman on the final play.
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