Official BCS Standings Weekly Thread

[Max Power]

Ohio State is a bigger money-maker than Boise State. Larger fanbase, which means more interest in the game, which means higher ratings for the game, which mean higher revenues from the game. Ohio State has one of, if not the, largest fanbases of any school. That's why they get the nod over Boise State.

[RealBronco]

Ohio State is a bigger money-maker than Boise State. Larger fanbase, which means more interest in the game, which means higher ratings for the game, which mean higher revenues from the game. Ohio State has one of, if not the, largest fanbases of any school. That's why they get the nod over Boise State.

Our fate isn't sealed yet! They're still behind us in the polls and some other factors still to consider...

I hope BC loses next weekend... that way only 1 ACC team goes.

but either way I think we're going to get screwed.

[Overtime]

Our fate isn't sealed yet! They're still behind us in the polls and some other factors still to consider...

I hope BC loses next weekend... that way only 1 ACC team goes.

but either way I think we're going to get screwed.

unfortunately I think you're right.

read this crock of dog sh**

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=883404

Rivals.com experts: What we learned

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Each Sunday, our staff of college football experts will offer thoughts on things they learned over the weekend.

Olin Buchanan

The ACC, which has been ripped weekly for its mediocre play, isn't so bad after all. Some have suggested the ACC doesn't deserve its automatic BCS bid. But Clemson, Georgia Tech and Wake Forest closed the season with victories over South Carolina, Georgia and Vanderbilt of the SEC. Critics can't even say the ACC teams benefited from playing weak competition. All three of those SEC teams are bowl eligible.

Defense still wins championships. Well, at least it can put teams in position to win championships. Wide-open offenses and gaudy scores grab attention and make for great highlight shows, but that adage about defense still applies in some places. Alabama maintained its No. 1 ranking with a dominant defensive effort in a 36-0 victory over Auburn, which was held to 170 yards and lost three fumbles against the Crimson Tide. Alabama has held seven opponents to one touchdown or less. Likewise, USC is on the brink of another Pac-10 championship because of its defense. The Trojans' 38-3 victory over Notre Dame was the ninth time they held an opponent to a touchdown or less. A victory over lowly UCLA next week would clinch the Pac-10 title.

Tom Dienhart

Boise State doesn't deserve a BCS bid. Yes, Boise State looked impressive in annihilating Fresno State 61-10 to cap a 12-0 regular season. But that doesn't mean the Broncos deserve a BCS bid. First of all, Boise isn't even the best non-"Big Six" team in the nation. That distinction belongs to Utah, which has a better resume. The Broncos' lone impressive victory was at Oregon. Conversely, Utah has toppled Michigan, Oregon State, TCU and BYU. And talk of matching Boise State and Utah in the Fiesta Bowl is just that – talk. Utah will be the lone non-"Big Six" team that gets a BCS bid. There is no way any BCS bowl would select Boise State over, say, Ohio State or a Big 12 team as an at-large selection.

The Pac-10 lost big bucks. Oregon's 65-38 victory over Oregon State cost the Beavers a trip to their first Rose Bowl since the 1964 season, and it also cost the Pac-10 a second BCS bid. Had Oregon State prevailed in the Civil War and advanced to Pasadena, the Pac-10 almost assuredly also would have sent USC to a BCS bowl. Now, only the Trojans appear headed to a BCS bowl, poised for a Rose Bowl matchup with Penn State. No doubt, Ohio State and a Big 12 South team now basically are guaranteed BCS bids as at-large selections.

David Fox

Other than Alabama and Florida, SEC fans need to keep their bragging to themselves. SEC fans have had a field day since Florida beat Ohio State 41-14 in the championship game two seasons ago. Every SEC team's major non-conference win has been met with chants of "S-E-C, S-E-C." Time to give it a rest. Beyond Florida and Alabama, there's not much that separates the SEC from other leagues. In some ways, it's worse. Thanks to Georgia's galling loss to Georgia Tech and LSU's collapse, Ole Miss looks like the third-best team in the SEC – and the Rebels lost to Wake Forest and Vanderbilt early in the season. Florida's rout of Florida State was the SEC's only win over the ACC in four games this weekend. The SEC went 4-6 this season against the ACC, and Alabama and Florida have three of those wins. Overall, the SEC was 6-8 against the other "Big Six" conferences. The vaunted SEC depth and defensive prowess isn't anything to crow about beyond the division winners.

The BCS games need to get more creative this season. Oregon saved the Rose Bowl by knocking Oregon State out of the rematch with Penn State. The rest of the major games should follow suit and give us a truly memorable BCS season. The BCS field likely includes Alabama, Florida, Texas and Oklahoma joining Penn State. Non-"Big Six" interlopers Utah, Boise State and Ball State are undefeated. No matter how those teams finish, it has the makings of a compelling January, provided the bowls are up to the task. Only an ACC-Cincinnati Orange Bowl is guaranteed to be a downer. It's time to see some real creativity from the old guard. If the Rose Bowl loses USC or Penn State to the title game, don't fill that spot with a second Big Ten or Pac-10 team. Fill it with Boise State. Or one of the other games could match up Utah and Boise. If there's not going to be a playoff, the onus is on the BCS to make the bowl games fun. Of course, these scenarios would create national championship ambiguity or would be a no-win scenario for a "power conference" team playing Utah or Boise State, which is exactly what the BCS power brokers are trying to avoid.

Mike Huguenin

All hail Boston College's coaches. The Eagles are headed to the ACC Championship Game for the second consecutive season, but with a vastly different cast. BC went into the season having to replace its star quarterback, its top four rushers, a key receiver, its best defensive player, a top linebacker and its best cornerback. Yet coach Jeff Jagodzinski and his staff have BC back in the title game. There have been some good coaching jobs done in the ACC this season, most notably by Georgia Tech's Paul Johnson and North Carolina's Butch Davis. But what Jagodzinski has done trumps them all. Defensive coordinator Frank Spaziani and offensive coordinator Steve Logan also deserve a ton of credit.

Oklahoma's defense makes every game exciting. Oklahoma ranks 66th in total defense. One reason is that OU's offense scores so much that OU's defense frequently is on the field. At the same time, the Sooners sure do get torched a lot. Oklahoma State rang up 452 yards Saturday. That's the sixth time this season OU has surrendered at least 400 yards. The combined number of times Alabama, Florida, Penn State and USC have allowed 400 yards in a game? Zero.

Steve Megargee

Michael Crabtree isn't Texas Tech's only quality receiver. Crabtree has spent the past two seasons showing why he's the nation's top wide receiver, but Texas Tech proved Saturday it could win without him. The Red Raiders rallied from a two-touchdown deficit to beat Baylor 35-28 even after an injured right foot knocked Crabtree out of the game midway through the second quarter. The absence of Crabtree made Texas Tech quarterback Graham Harrell even more resourceful than usual. Harrell had his own injury problems – he hurt two fingers on his left hand in the second quarter and is having surgery Sunday – but he still threw for 309 yards and completed passes to 10 players. Detron Lewis was particularly effective in Crabtree's absence. Lewis, a sophomore from College Station, Texas, caught nine passes for 68 yards - including a 4-yard touchdown that put Texas Tech ahead for good with 6:14 left in the game.

N.C. State and Georgia Tech have bright futures. N.C. State and Georgia Tech won't be facing off in the ACC Championship Game next week, but both have plenty of reason to feel good about themselves. The Wolfpack (6-6) became bowl eligible Saturday by beating Miami 38-28 for its fourth consecutive victory. The Wolfpack have one of the nation's brightest young quarterbacks in redshirt freshman Russell Wilson, who celebrated his 20th birthday by throwing two touchdown passes and running for a third score. Wilson has 16 touchdown passes and just one interception this season. Georgia Tech (9-3) staked its claim as next year's ACC preseason favorite by rushing for more than 400 yards for the second consecutive week in a 45-42 victory over Georgia. Redshirt freshman Roddy Jones and sophomore Jonathan Dwyer combined to rush for 358 yards and four touchdowns. Quarterback Josh Nesbitt already has proved he can run Georgia Tech's option attack. If Nesbitt improves his passing accuracy – he was 1-for-6 against Georgia – the Yellow Jackets could prove even more dangerous in Paul Johnson's second season.

[broooks77]

WE ARE.....PENN STATE!:salute!:

[Overtime]

WE ARE.....A JOKE!:salute!:

fixed it for ya.

[Overtime]

regardless of how much the Texas homers cry about getting screwed by the BCS, in effect they didn't really get screwed.

TTU, OU, and Texas, and Oklahoma State were all common opponents of each other this year, so if you take the scores from all those games, add them up, and then subtract the margin of loss points, Oklahoma had the highest margin of victory as opposed to Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, or Texas.

So since OU had a greater point differential between the common opponents, they should rightfully be in the Big 12 Championship Game, and the BCS actually got it right.

This is how the tie breaker should have in all actuality been figured out between Texas Tech, Oklahoma, and Texas (OK State was a non-factor in the tie breaker discussion because of their record), rather than leaving it up to the BCS computers to decide.


Oklahoma State lost to Texas Tech 56-20 (-36 pts difference)
Oklahoma State lost to Texas 28-24 (-4 pts differnce)
Oklahoma State lost to Oklahoma 61-41 (-20 pts difference)
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Total Point Differential (-60 pts difference)


Texas Tech beat Texas 39-33 (+6 pts difference)
Texas Tech beat Oklahoma State 56-20 (+36 pts difference)
Texas Tech lost to Oklahoma 65-21 (-44 pts difference)
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Total Point Differential (-2 pts difference)


Texas beat OU by 45-35 points in Dallas. (+10 pts difference) (neutral field or not, the game was still in the state of Texas, where Texas still had a home field advantage).
Texas beat Oklahoma State 28-24. (+ 4 pts difference.)
Texas lost to Texas Tech 33-39 ( - 6 pts difference)
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Total point differential (+8 pts difference)


Oklahoma lost to Texas 45-35 (-10 pts difference)
Oklahoma beat Texas Tech 65-21 (+44 pts difference)
Oklahoma beat Oklahoma State 61-41 (+20 pts difference)
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Total Point Differential (+54 pts difference)



simple math. OU goes to the Big 12 Championship, while Texas and Texas Tech sit at home and cry.

[broooks77]

fixed it for ya.

haha. I walked right into that one

[Overtime]

Can you give any convincing reason why the tiebreaker ought to be figured this way rather than any of a half-dozen other conceivable ways that would all yield different results? For example, taking the teams' scoring differentials against the one non-South opponent that all of them played (Kansas) and giving the spot to Tech based on that? At least that way there's a true common basis for comparison.

so you want to figure a tie breaker based on 3 teams performance against only 1 common opponent? how is that hardly fair?

at least with my system, it was each team's performance against 3 other common opponents, and clearly Oklahoma was a dominating force in those 3 games from an overall stand point.

measuring the tie breaker, just based on point differentials against Kansas doesn't tell anyone anything.

[RealBronco]

unfortunately I think you're right.

read this crock of dog sh**

http://collegefootball.rivals.com/co...asp?CID=883404

it would appear that Tom Deinhart doesn't deserve to be an analyst.

[Nomad Broncofan]

This is priceless seeing all the Longhorn fans in agony:lol:!!

If Ohio State gets the at-large, they should have to go back to the Sugar Bowl and play Alabama or Florida! We know how they love playing SEC teams in bowl games! It's a rip-off because Boise St deserves it more!

[RealBronco]

This is priceless seeing all the Longhorn fans in agony:lol:!!

If Ohio State gets the at-large, they should have to go back to the Sugar Bowl and play Alabama or Florida! We know how they love playing SEC teams in bowl games! It's a rip-off because Boise St deserves it more!

lol this is exactly what i'm saying. even if Boise State wasn't in contention, Ohio State doesn't deserve the last at-large bid with 2 losses and we all know they'll get rocked for a third straight year in a row...

I bet Oklahoma is glad they won't be in the Fiesta Bowl this year! hahahahaha.

[HuskerBronco7]

I think college football is not going to be able to avoid a playoff system. I just hope its in my life time. Cuz personally I would love to see teams like Boise State and Utah beat everyone and go to the National Championship. That would make for excellent football.

[Straz1999]

I bet Oklahoma is glad they won't be in the Fiesta Bowl this year! hahahahaha.

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