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  • #61
    Originally posted by LarryDean View Post
    The champion of a BCS conference (ACC, Big 12, Big East, Big Ten, Pac-10, and SEC) is guaranteed an automatic BCS bowl bid.

    The highest ranked champion of a non-BCS conference will receive an automatic berth

    UTAH

    No more than one such team from Conference USA, the Mid-American Conference, the Mountain West Conference, the Sun Belt Conference, and the Western Athletic Conference shall earn an automatic berth in any year.

    This system is not new....I did not come up with this system....I dont like it either...

    Why make a thread taking it out on me....



    What should I say here...C'mon...

    Ok hate on the Buckeyes that will not change the Bull Crap System that is in place and it is not even mentioned....Upset about it or not things dont change on the fly..If fans want to have a field day bashing the Buckeyes have it...Opinions of the game,the team,will not change the bowl selection..Every year a handful of teams fall short...Most usually because of a loss,Schedule strength,Preseason rankings and a lot of other factors none of which has anything to do with the fans....Sure I would change some of the games around but this bowl season looks much better then last..Playoff already until then what else...





    What was that you was saying about Boise State S8

    Nevermind it's right here

    http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=119158
    I'm not sticking up for everyone. The facts are right there. It is CRAP that every major conference is guaranteed a bid. It is CRAP that a conference is limited to how many teams you can send to the BCS games. I made a case simply that while he can be pissed about OSU, he should be more so about VT or even Cinci.

    TTU deserved a bid. I think the intrigue is there for me that Boise always plays the role of the little dog that pee's all over your carpet and chews everything up. It's too damn cute to really kill.

    Show me where I said Boise ot robbed, please.

    I would maybe even be less upset if the Pac 10 and Big 10 had a conference championship. I think that is crap as well.

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    • #62
      Why does the Big East get a bid really?

      Give me a playoffs with every conference having a champioship game. 11 conference winners, 5 at large. You can still have bowl games for other teams, use the big 4 bowls in the final four and elite 8 rounds. Payouts would need to get changed, but, someone can figure it out.
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      • #63
        Originally posted by str8jacket View Post
        I'm not sticking up for everyone. The facts are right there. It is CRAP that every major conference is guaranteed a bid. It is CRAP that a conference is limited to how many teams you can send to the BCS games. I made a case simply that while he can be pissed about OSU, he should be more so about VT or even Cinci.

        TTU deserved a bid. I think the intrigue is there for me that Boise always plays the role of the little dog that pee's all over your carpet and chews everything up. It's too damn cute to really kill.

        Show me where I said Boise ot robbed, please.

        I would maybe even be less upset if the Pac 10 and Big 10 had a conference championship. I think that is crap as well.
        No worries here...Knowing they are not looking for a playoff even though the crys can be heard by everybody...The first and easy enough step they need to make is the bowls affiliations with the conferences needs to be done away with...This Rose Bowl Pac 10 vs Big 10 as an example each conference is tied into one of them is getting to be crap and is causing for matchups that make little are no sense .....Would you not agree....

        Even though there is nothing wrong with the matchup between USC and Penn State...

        I have to disagree with the conference championship thing mainly because...I think it is game not really needed to find out who the best team is in the conference and it of all games is about extra tv money for the conference.Should be easy enough to play all teams in your conference...It will also have effect on conferences running the rankings table with multiple teams inside the top 10....USC was the best team in the Pac 10...some times it just dont provide with the best teams of the conference...If Mizzou would have beat Oklahoma....If the Vols would have beat LSU last year with the Dawgs as hot as they was...But thats for a different topic....
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        • #64
          Originally posted by draco193 View Post
          Why does the Big East get a bid really?

          Give me a playoffs with every conference having a champioship game. 11 conference winners, 5 at large. You can still have bowl games for other teams, use the big 4 bowls in the final four and elite 8 rounds. Payouts would need to get changed, but, someone can figure it out.
          Using that format, you could even keep all the smaller bowls for the teams ineligible to make the playoffs! I happened to write a paper for this for english

          LD cover your eyes.
          I grew up watching College Football. Going to the CU games every weekend, I fell in love with it. To this day I still watch the games (of course) whether in Boulder, or on TV. I grew up with this BCS system that they use, where computers “analyze” teams and rank them based on various things such as strength of schedule, big wins, and points differential. Personally, I think this is stupid. There really is no lack of a vocabulary I could use for this system, but we will leave it at that. For years, I have seen teams get robbed of being able to play in the Conference Championship game, or even the National Championship. It’s time for a change, even President Elect Obama agrees. So why are the Conferences so reluctant to switch? Will it’s rather simple, the system we have right now is very skewed. You would think every conference would have a championship game. That is not so. One of the biggest opponents to a change in the system have been the Big 10 Conference (1), they like the system (mainly because they are not on par with many of the other conferences, this levels their playing field) that is in place right now, that way they have a better chance to at least get to the big game. Occasionally you will have a team with 12 or 13 wins out of 13 games played, playing against a team that has 10 wins and 2 teams, despite the fact there are clearly better teams in front of them. Last year, for example. Ohio State was clearly not the second best team in the nation, yet they ended up playing Louisiana State in the National Championship game. They were overmatched, as predicted by many and the game disappointed.

          You may be asking, “Justin, what do YOU want then?”. I’ll tell you what I want! I want Conference Championships for EVERY Conference. From there you can still use the current BCS ranking system. How? You take the top 16 teams, and let them duke it out. Once all the Conferences are set with their champions you take the top two teams, and give them a Bye Week. The bracket would then look like this:
          3rd ranked team plays 16th ranked team
          4th ranked team plays 15th ranked team
          5th ranked team plays 14th ranked team
          6th ranked team plays 13th ranked team
          7th ranked team plays 12th ranked team
          8th ranked team plays 11th ranked team
          9th ranked team plays 10th ranked team
          Why would the top two teams get a bye week? Because they clearly had the toughest road to the post season of college football! I would choose 16 teams over 8 because that then guarantees that you have the best team somewhere in that pool (sometimes you will have a very good team on the outside looking in of the top 8 teams in the BCS currently). That handles the top teams aspect, but what about the “other” teams? The ones that couldn’t make the cut? (2 and 3)

          One of the main concerns with doing away with the current BCS bowls is that it will take money away from other schools, the smaller ones mainly. Keep the smaller bowls! From there on any team that has 6 wins and that goes all the way up to the 17th ranked team in the nation (the odd man out) you can have all of those teams compete in Bowls. Whether or not it matters, it still generates revenue for those teams, as well as lets them play an additional game. It certainly does not take money away from the top 16 teams, since they play in more games than they usually would. It is a win-win situation, in my opinion. Heck, the Bowl Subdivision (formerly division I-AA) has a playoff system! It works, and you don’t have people constantly complaining about it! Why even play the regular season games, and yet get robbed? You have the same record as this team, and the one clear loss on their record is from you. Yet they get in? You beat this team on the field, yet a computer determines that team is better? It’s mind numbing.

          If you pay any attention to College Football, and most certainly if you pay attention like I do you will have noticed that a very good team got robbed out of playing in a Conference Championship game last night in Texas. They beat Oklahoma earlier in the year, and despite that, as well as having the same record as Oklahoma, Oklahoma got the bid to play in that game last night. It’s unfair. The University of Southern California got into a BCS bowl despite playing very weak competition and not having a Conference Championship game. You also have a 9 win team in a BCS bowl ahead of very much more deserving teams, just because they won their conference championship, yes, they won the game they are supposed to, yet they are clearly not more deserving than various other teams. For a person that has no idea what the BCS is, let alone has no idea how it works this will seem like one big rant. I am very animate about having a playoff system in College, we have the best regular season in all of sports. Note how I just said, “Regular Season”. I mean, come on! The Final Four (March Madness for College Basketball, their playoff system) works brilliantly. Why can’t college football have something like that? We are the only sport that has their post season determined by computers, and not play on the field. It makes no sense and it is time for a change, yet many people do not see it happening any time soon (1 and 4). If anyone can make sense of this current system for me, I would greatly appreciate it. I just don’t see how you can argue FOR this system. Unless of course you are a fan of a team that got in when they clearly shouldn’t have.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by str8jacket View Post
            Using that format, you could even keep all the smaller bowls for the teams ineligible to make the playoffs!

            LD cover your eyes.
            Not even a peek well I've had enough for tonight.....4:00 am here quick
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            • #66
              interesting read.

              http://www.sportsline.com/mcc/blogs/...14809/12164878

              Let the complaints begin.

              We all know about Texas' beef with the BCS system. The Longhorns feel they should be in the BCS National Championship over Oklahoma because they finished with the same record and beat Oklahoma on a nuetral field.

              We will continue to hear that talk through the New Year.

              But what about Boise State?

              The Broncos are ranked No. 9 in this week's CBSSports.com 120, but they will be left out of the BCS Bowl picture as a two-loss Ohio State will meet Texas in the Fiesta Bowl.

              The Poinsettia Bowl, which will feature the Broncos and No. 11 TCU, will have two higher ranked teams than the Orange Bowl (No. 12 Cincinnati and No. 19 Virginia Tech). The Holiday Bowl will have No. 14 Oklahoma State and No. 15 Oregon.

              "As long as the Ohio State players and coaches aren't tired of coming to the Valley of the Sun, we're not tired of having them," Fiesta Bowl CEO John Junker said. "The university is the same, but the players all are different. It's just another version of that great tradition, and anytime you can match up a co-Big Ten champion against a No. 3 program that people think should be playing for the national championship, it seemed like a natural."

              Welcome to the bowl system -- it's not about how many losses you have or where you are ranked. It's all about tickets, TV ratings and marketability. And that hurts Boise State.

              Last year, the Georgia/Hawaii Sugar Bowl had the lowest TV ratings of any BCS game, the year before it was Oklahoma/Boise State. And in 2005, if was the Utah/Pittsburgh Fiesta Bowl.

              The Fiesta Bowl had the choice to take Utah or Boise State instead of the Buckeyes, but President John Junker chose to go with the Buckeyes even though they've played there four times since 2003.

              "It was (discussed)," Junker said of Ohio State's visits to the website Cleveland.com. "But it's not like it's professional football. Obviously in the years that (Ohio State has) appeared, it's always a different group of players with the changes on their roster."

              Sorry Boise State, take your undefeated record and higher ranking somewhere else. But don't feel bad for them, because Ohio State coach Jim Tressel doesn't.

              "I've got to be honest with you, I didn't feel for them, because I'd rather go," Tressel said of Boise State. "I'm a compassionate guy, but to an extent ... I'd rather the Buckeyes be there."

              Boise will now take its show on the road to San Diego in what could be one of the best non-BCS games on the schedule.

              Notes

              ... San Jose State (No. 70), Bowling Green (No. 80), Arkansas State (No. 84) and Louisiana-Lafayette (No. 92) are the only bowl-eligible teams not playing this postseason.

              ... The Hawaii Bowl features two of the lowest-ranked teams in the CBSSports.com 120 -- No. 65 Notre Dame vs. No. 67 Hawaii.

              ... Florida Atlantic is the lowest-ranked team is the lowest-ranked team in a bowl game at No. 85. The Owls lost to Arkansas State 28-14 a few weeks ago, but didn't make a bowl game.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by str8jacket View Post
                Using that format, you could even keep all the smaller bowls for the teams ineligible to make the playoffs! I happened to write a paper for this for english

                LD cover your eyes.
                I dunno S8. I think I'm going to have to give you a C-. You didn't use the best example of why we need a playoff system... They're in my Avatar.... :salute!:

                Originally posted by 97svtinkc View Post
                Of course that d-bag Tressel would rather go. If his team goes, he gets the money, and a bigger paycheck. Dur. that's a no brainer.

                Hey Tressel. Come play us. Then you'd be repeating over and over again: "Oh... we should've stayed home.... we should've played Texas.... but now we lost to Boise State.... God I'm so embarrassed....wah.... I want money..."

                anyways. I'm out for the night boys! :salute!:
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                • #68
                  Originally posted by RealBronco View Post
                  I dunno S8. I think I'm going to have to give you a C-. You didn't use the best example of why we need a playoff system... They're in my Avatar.... :salute!:



                  Of course that d-bag Tressel would rather go. If his team goes, he gets the money, and a bigger paycheck. Dur. that's a no brainer.

                  Hey Tressel. Come play us. Then you'd be repeating over and over again: "Oh... we should've stayed home.... we should've played Texas.... but now we lost to Boise State.... God I'm so embarrassed....wah.... I want money..."

                  anyways. I'm out for the night boys! :salute!:
                  Reading comprehension wasn't your strong subject in college, was it?



                  Why would the top two teams get a bye week? Because they clearly had the toughest road to the post season of college football! I would choose 16 teams over 8 because that then guarantees that you have the best team somewhere in that pool (sometimes you will have a very good team on the outside looking in of the top 8 teams in the BCS currently). That handles the top teams aspect, but what about the “other” teams? The ones that couldn’t make the cut? (2 and 3)

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by str8jacket View Post
                    Reading comprehension wasn't your strong subject in college, was it?

                    No, actually....I'm very brilliant at English and reading....

                    I still don't see anywhere that says "Boise State" ?

                    "other teams" doesn't count in college
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by RealBronco View Post
                      No, actually....I'm very brilliant at English and reading....

                      I still don't see anywhere that says "Boise State" ?

                      "other teams" doesn't count in college
                      Could have fooled me.

                      I will leave it at that, it includes various teams. Mainly TTU.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by 97svtinkc View Post
                        No the official OU Motto is: "Flood Warning Issued for the State of Texas. 5 million crybabies tears' create treacherous floodwaters over the great state of Texas. Investigators are blaming the BCS System for the unseasonal flooding, citing favoritism towards OU by the BCS, a much hated rival of the Texas Longhorns, as the source of the torrential downpours."

                        I love that everyone in the Country thinks its the new "cool" thing to do to call Texas crybabies. In any other conference Texas goes to the conf. championship, having the higher ranking, and owning the head to head tie breaker against OU.

                        THAT being said, UT should have taken care of business like we did in Lawrence. But, we didn't. I sure would have liked to play TT at home after a bye like OU. I think ANY team in the country would have lost in lubbock that night.
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