The way to get a TRUE College football playoff.

[Southstander]

For years, just about everone that follow sports have said they want a Playoff to determin the National Championship, and they all agree it will be tough if not impossable to pull of. Not even President Elect Obama will br able to force a change unless one thing happens...

And I don't think college sports fans have the stomach to do what it takes to FORCE the Admin and Bowls to change there thinking.



Here is what HAS to happen. Everyone needs to stop watching the Bowl games. Stop going to them. Don't talk about them, or the results untill a playoff system is started. The only way to make them see the light is to hit them where it hursts, the pocket book. I gaurentte you, that if the staidum for Thursday nights game was empty, and the ratings where lower then Phillip Rivers IQ the message would be heard loud and clear the we reject the BCS and will not execpt anything less then a REAL National Championship.

So who is with me.....

BOYCOTT THE BCS AND ALL BOWL GAMES!!!!!!!

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

That will never happen

[Southstander]

I know, and it' sad. That people complain and whine about a problem, but then don't do what it takes to effect change.

[GatorChomp]

That will never happen. I'll watch almost every bowl game, every year, forever.

My next question is this: why does everyone talk about the president wanting to change the BCS to a playoff system? Everyone acts (or acted) like when he gets in office he would actually be able to change it! All he can do is suggest that it is changed, he has absolutly no power or say in the situation...neither does congress or the senate. Just a thought.

[Southstander]

That will never happen. I'll watch almost every bowl game, every year, forever.

My next question is this: why does everyone talk about the president wanting to change the BCS to a playoff system? Everyone acts (or acted) like when he gets in office he would actually be able to change it! All he can do is suggest that it is changed, he has absolutly no power or say in the situation...neither does congress or the senate. Just a thought.

As I said, no one is willing to do it. Aslo RrrrraaaKK Way to Parrot back my post.:salute!:

[GatorChomp]

Too bad they couldn't keep all the other bowls to let the cities, schools, and sponsors make money, and just add an 8 team playoff on top of it. The BCS contract was renewed a couple years ago, and runs out in a few more... here's hoping for them to get their heads out of their butts and do what everyone wants!

[Overtime]

That will never happen. I'll watch almost every bowl game, every year, forever.

My next question is this: why does everyone talk about the president wanting to change the BCS to a playoff system? Everyone acts (or acted) like when he gets in office he would actually be able to change it! All he can do is suggest that it is changed, he has absolutly no power or say in the situation...neither does congress or the senate. Just a thought.

u sure about that? If the Senate decides the BCS is a monopoly or violates racketeering, or anti-trust laws, and caters only to certain schools, of which I'm sure they could find something somewhere in the legal areas where a violation is taking place, and could come up with some criminal charges or use it as leverage to force the BCS to indoctrinate a playoff system.

there is a long history of Pac 10, Big 12, SEC and Big 10 Schools getting to play for titles, but how many Sunbelt, Big East, Mountain West, and other smaller conferences do you see getting a crack at the National Championship Game? None!

The BCS is exclusive of putting smaller lesser conferences in the Title game because of television ratings & money. The BCS discriminates against those smaller teams, and it's clearly evident the past 20+ years. But it is pre-dominantly inclusive of putting the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and PAC 10 in the championship game.

Not only that but how many other sports have ever had a Co-National Champion? Whoever heard of such an absurd thing? that's ridiculous.

Boise State 3 times Undefeated since the indoctrination of the BCS.
Utah this year

and all the others I'm not bothering to look up right now.

Lawyers would have a field day with this, and the BCS would come tumbling down.

They need to have a 30 team playoff format, scrap the Conference Championship games. 30 teams with the best record, go to the playoffs plain and simple. Every team plays 10 regular season games, and up to a possible 5 post season games.

Regular Season games start the first week of September and run through the 2nd week of November.

Every team gets 1 week off to prepare for the playoffs, and then the games start the 4th week of November, and each week thereafter until you have two teams remaining. They get a bye week, and then play on New Years Day for the Championship.

4th week of November- Week 1 Wildcard - 28 Teams/14 Games (#1 and #2 have a bye week)
1st week of December - Week 2 - 16 Teams/8 Games
2nd week of December - Week 3 - 8 Teams/4 Games
3rd week of December - Week 4 - 4 Teams/2 Games
January 1st - Week 5 - 2 Teams/National Championship Game (true Champ crowned after the game is over)

[GatorChomp]

Alright well there ya go. Well thought out and I like it. Would love to see that system put in. There are 3 problems i see, that i'm sure could be taken care of pretty easily, just want to hear your opinion on how they would do it. 1) finals week? Right now most teams regular seasons are over before finals, and their bowl games are after finals (except the first week of bowls which are usually that same week). In this format every top 30 team would definitly have a game the week of finals, and half of them would have to leave early that week to get to the bowl. I guess you could have them take finals early in that week (but then they wont be able to practice or focus on the game as much). 2) how do you decide the top 30 teams? I can see that there would be controversy about who is #29 and #30 compared to who is left out at #31 and #32, especially because when you get down to that level the teams are fairly close in ability and competition. If its a 10 game season you'll probably have a lot of 6-4 or 5-5 teams trying to get one of the playoff spots. 3) Teams make alot of money playing those extra 2 games, and even playing in small bowl games. Is there any way to allow the schools to make that money elsewhere? Maybe how they do it in college basketball, have the BIG tournament, and then a smaller one for teams that didn't make it?

I don't know, maybe just diarreah coming out of my mouth and I'm thinking too far into it (especially when it probably wont change), or not looking at "easy" fixes to the situation. Or maybe i'm just not mad enough at the current system because Florida has gotten to the championship game twice in the last three years. I'm sure if they would have been kept out I would have thought of a good system like the one you came up with.

[Overtime]

Alright well there ya go. Well thought out and I like it. Would love to see that system put in. There are 3 problems i see, that i'm sure could be taken care of pretty easily, just want to hear your opinion on how they would do it. 1) finals week? Right now most teams regular seasons are over before finals, and their bowl games are after finals (except the first week of bowls which are usually that same week). In this format every top 30 team would definitly have a game the week of finals, and half of them would have to leave early that week to get to the bowl. I guess you could have them take finals early in that week (but then they wont be able to practice or focus on the game as much). 2) how do you decide the top 30 teams? I can see that there would be controversy about who is #29 and #30 compared to who is left out at #31 and #32, especially because when you get down to that level the teams are fairly close in ability and competition. If its a 10 game season you'll probably have a lot of 6-4 or 5-5 teams trying to get one of the playoff spots. 3) Teams make alot of money playing those extra 2 games, and even playing in small bowl games. Is there any way to allow the schools to make that money elsewhere? Maybe how they do it in college basketball, have the BIG tournament, and then a smaller one for teams that didn't make it?

I don't know, maybe just diarreah coming out of my mouth and I'm thinking too far into it (especially when it probably wont change), or not looking at "easy" fixes to the situation. Or maybe i'm just not mad enough at the current system because Florida has gotten to the championship game twice in the last three years. I'm sure if they would have been kept out I would have thought of a good system like the one you came up with.

finals week - well you could allow them to take it early, or allow them to take it later. either way, it's a challenge, but like any challeng it's meant to be overcame. plus, they can take it in between games anyhow.

The top 30 teams. - Well you could do it one of 2 ways. Realign all the conferences, and make it to where there are only 10 conferences. Top 3 teams in each conference go to the playoffs.

Or you spread it out to 15 conferences, and the top 2 teams from each conference go to the playoffs.

or you just take the Top 30 teams in the nation with the best record go to the playoffs. ok, yes the Rankings system will still be there, but it really won't have any impact on what teams make the playoffs and what teams don't. it'll kinda be comparable to Pete Priscoe's Power Rankings that he posts up over on CBS Sportsline during the regular season. Then you have the traditional tie breakers, based on conference record, pts, etc, whatever, you get the drift. that way you don't have the stupid media picking who goes to the playoffs and who doesn't, which is part of the problem with the system right now, with the media and the ranking system (but that's another discussion for another day).

I'd also be in favor of the NCAA generating the schedules, and each conference plays each other kinda like the NFL. That way schools can't schedule easy schedules, you just get what you get, and you go play. Coaches and AD's should have no more say so in who they schedule and who they don't. Everyone plays everyone at some point.

Regular Season Schedules - 5 games should be conference, 5 of them non-conference. The NCAA would probably have to come up with a computer program to do it, but with algorithms and stuff it can be done. Not really that hard for the math whiz's.

As for the money - just structure it with the playoff system. I mean how many other corporate companies would step up to have their name on a bowl playoff game? Sprint, T-mobile, Exxon, Shell, and all the other companies who don't have their name on bowl games.

The teams that don't make it, don't get to make extra money. It's just plain and simple. Or yes you could do something similar to the NIT for the teams that don't make the playoffs. This will make the field more competitive, and you also won't get teams like my Notre Dame Irish in the playoffs if they don't "earn it". Same with the Ohio State, and some of these other teams that skirt into bowl games with mediocre records, that will stop.

[DarrentCB27]

That will never happen. I'll watch almost every bowl game, every year, forever.

My next question is this: why does everyone talk about the president wanting to change the BCS to a playoff system? Everyone acts (or acted) like when he gets in office he would actually be able to change it! All he can do is suggest that it is changed, he has absolutly no power or say in the situation...neither does congress or the senate. Just a thought.

The night before Election Day, during the MNF halftime show Chris Berman did something unusual: He asked both presidential nominees -Obama first, McCain after a commercial - the same questions. One of them (naturally) was, "If you could change one thing in sports, what would it be?"

Obama answered, "College football," and said something about creating a playoff format to determine a true national champion. (John McCain's response was related to the steroid problem.)

Later, in his first interview since winning the election, Obama said on 60 Minutes, which is the first CBS show after most NFL games are over, what kind of playoff he wants. I did not hear it, but read he said it should have a three-game bracket.

So it is pretty easy to see how millions of football fans suddenly get excited about the possibillity there will be a college football playoff. As president, Obama will have the power to write an executive order - a document that has the power of a law but does not go through Congress for approval - to change it. He could write an executive order to get rid of all the bowls and start a three-game playoff and if bowl games still are scheduled for the next season, the schedule makers could be arrested and fined.

[GatorChomp]

finals week - well you could allow them to take it early, or allow them to take it later. either way, it's a challenge, but like any challeng it's meant to be overcame. plus, they can take it in between games anyhow.

The top 30 teams. - Well you could do it one of 2 ways. Realign all the conferences, and make it to where there are only 10 conferences. Top 3 teams in each conference go to the playoffs.

Or you spread it out to 15 conferences, and the top 2 teams from each conference go to the playoffs.

or you just take the Top 30 teams in the nation with the best record go to the playoffs. ok, yes the Rankings system will still be there, but it really won't have any impact on what teams make the playoffs and what teams don't. it'll kinda be comparable to Pete Priscoe's Power Rankings that he posts up over on CBS Sportsline during the regular season. Then you have the traditional tie breakers, based on conference record, pts, etc, whatever, you get the drift. that way you don't have the stupid media picking who goes to the playoffs and who doesn't, which is part of the problem with the system right now, with the media and the ranking system (but that's another discussion for another day).

I'd also be in favor of the NCAA generating the schedules, and each conference plays each other kinda like the NFL. That way schools can't schedule easy schedules, you just get what you get, and you go play. Coaches and AD's should have no more say so in who they schedule and who they don't. Everyone plays everyone at some point.

Regular Season Schedules - 5 games should be conference, 5 of them non-conference. The NCAA would probably have to come up with a computer program to do it, but with algorithms and stuff it can be done. Not really that hard for the math whiz's.

As for the money - just structure it with the playoff system. I mean how many other corporate companies would step up to have their name on a bowl playoff game? Sprint, T-mobile, Exxon, Shell, and all the other companies who don't have their name on bowl games.

The teams that don't make it, don't get to make extra money. It's just plain and simple. Or yes you could do something similar to the NIT for the teams that don't make the playoffs. This will make the field more competitive, and you also won't get teams like my Notre Dame Irish in the playoffs if they don't "earn it". Same with the Ohio State, and some of these other teams that skirt into bowl games with mediocre records, that will stop.

Wow Overtime for New BCS commish

[HurricaneDovs]

u sure about that? If the Senate decides the BCS is a monopoly or violates racketeering, or anti-trust laws, and caters only to certain schools, of which I'm sure they could find something somewhere in the legal areas where a violation is taking place, and could come up with some criminal charges or use it as leverage to force the BCS to indoctrinate a playoff system.

there is a long history of Pac 10, Big 12, SEC and Big 10 Schools getting to play for titles, but how many Sunbelt, Big East, Mountain West, and other smaller conferences do you see getting a crack at the National Championship Game? None!

The BCS is exclusive of putting smaller lesser conferences in the Title game because of television ratings & money. The BCS discriminates against those smaller teams, and it's clearly evident the past 20+ years. But it is pre-dominantly inclusive of putting the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and PAC 10 in the championship game.

Not only that but how many other sports have ever had a Co-National Champion? Whoever heard of such an absurd thing? that's ridiculous.

Boise State 3 times Undefeated since the indoctrination of the BCS.
Utah this year

and all the others I'm not bothering to look up right now.

Lawyers would have a field day with this, and the BCS would come tumbling down.

They need to have a 30 team playoff format, scrap the Conference Championship games. 30 teams with the best record, go to the playoffs plain and simple. Every team plays 10 regular season games, and up to a possible 5 post season games.

Regular Season games start the first week of September and run through the 2nd week of November.

Every team gets 1 week off to prepare for the playoffs, and then the games start the 4th week of November, and each week thereafter until you have two teams remaining. They get a bye week, and then play on New Years Day for the Championship.

4th week of November- Week 1 Wildcard - 28 Teams/14 Games (#1 and #2 have a bye week)
1st week of December - Week 2 - 16 Teams/8 Games
2nd week of December - Week 3 - 8 Teams/4 Games
3rd week of December - Week 4 - 4 Teams/2 Games
January 1st - Week 5 - 2 Teams/National Championship Game (true Champ crowned after the game is over)

Since the BCS started back in the 98-99 season the national championship game has had a representative from the SEC a total of 5 times. The Big 12 has had a rep a total of 6 times. The Pac 10 has had a rep a total of 2 times (both USC in consecutive years). The Big East has had a rep a total of 3 times (Miami and Va Tech back when they were in the Big East. there have been none since). The ACC has had a rep a total of 3 times (FSU in 3 consecutive years). And the Big 10 has had a rep a total of 3 times (all OSU).

So yeah I'd agree that they favor the Big 12 and SEC teams.

The last "non-BCS team" to win a National Championship was BYU back in 1984.

[Overtime]

u sure about that? If the Senate decides the BCS is a monopoly or violates racketeering, or anti-trust laws, and caters only to certain schools, of which I'm sure they could find something somewhere in the legal areas where a violation is taking place, and could come up with some criminal charges or use it as leverage to force the BCS to indoctrinate a playoff system.

there is a long history of Pac 10, Big 12, SEC and Big 10 Schools getting to play for titles, but how many Sunbelt, Big East, Mountain West, and other smaller conferences do you see getting a crack at the National Championship Game? None!

The BCS is exclusive of putting smaller lesser conferences in the Title game because of television ratings & money. The BCS discriminates against those smaller teams, and it's clearly evident the past 20+ years. But it is pre-dominantly inclusive of putting the SEC, Big 12, Big 10, and PAC 10 in the championship game.

Not only that but how many other sports have ever had a Co-National Champion? Whoever heard of such an absurd thing? that's ridiculous.

Boise State 3 times Undefeated since the indoctrination of the BCS.
Utah this year

and all the others I'm not bothering to look up right now.

Lawyers would have a field day with this, and the BCS would come tumbling down.

well looks I was partiallyl right, some lawyer somewhere in Utah, claims the BCS is violating Anti-Trust laws....could get interesting I suppose.

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