Is a title game loss more successful...

[CoryWinget81]

...than a 2nd Place game win?

My Dad is a OU Swooner alum and fan, and I'm a diehard Longhorns fan.

Is


more successful than

?

I'm of the mind that 3-5 in Bowl games is ALOT worse than 7-3 when comparing OU and Texas. Look at the teams they played too.


So, my question for discussion is:
Is losing in two Championship games better than Texas winning 1?

[LarryDean]

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So, my question for discussion is:
Is losing in two Championship games better than Texas winning 1?

imo no ... Though making in it to the championship is huge ...imo not as much as in the NFL (going to the SB.).Fans of teams that make it to the final game should be proud of their team regardless of outcome ...

[Nick Hardwick]

Normally, in polls don't they usually bump up the winner of the "2nd place game" to 2nd and the loser of the championship normally drops to 3 or 4?

[Maharishineo]

So, my question for discussion is:
Is losing in two Championship games better than Texas winning 1?

Heck no. Besides, shouldn't Texas have been in that last title game instead of Oklahoma anyway?

The Vikings have lost what? Four or five Super Bowls? The Buccs and Ravens have each won one. Who's more successful? The only Championship losers that have any respect are the Bills, who amaze because the went to the big game four times in a row. The Broncos, who had lost four (or three with Elway) were said to have less success than any team who'd won a single Championship. After winning two they'd experience success. How often do Broncos fans use that against the Chargers?

Or to reference college football specifically, what about the Buckeyes losing two in a row? Would your father consider them more successful than Texas? Even ignoring the most recent match up? Then again, Texas beat Oklahoma in their most recent game, too.

If not for the title game being instituted about a decade ago, being number two wouldn't mean anything. Are we going to go back and check the standings for all the number twos before the Championship games?

There's a reason they say only one team finishes the season happy. I could go on for a while with this, heh. Point is, titles are what matters. That's why the only argument your father can make based on the time frame you're considering is that Oklahoma has far more Big XII Championship titles. Of course, right outside of your time frame, Oklahoma actually won a NCAA title. They also have better all time numbers, I believe.

[CoryWinget81]

Heck no. Besides, shouldn't Texas have been in that last title game instead of Oklahoma anyway?

The Vikings have lost what? Four or five Super Bowls? The Buccs and Ravens have each won one. Who's more successful? The only Championship losers that have any respect are the Bills, who amaze because the went to the big game four times in a row. The Broncos, who had lost four (or three with Elway) were said to have less success than any team who'd won a single Championship. After winning two they'd experience success. How often do Broncos fans use that against the Chargers?

Or to reference college football specifically, what about the Buckeyes losing two in a row? Would your father consider them more successful than Texas? Even ignoring the most recent match up? Then again, Texas beat Oklahoma in their most recent game, too.

If not for the title game being instituted about a decade ago, being number two wouldn't mean anything. Are we going to go back and check the standings for all the number twos before the Championship games?

There's a reason they say only one team finishes the season happy. I could go on for a while with this, heh. Point is, titles are what matters. That's why the only argument your father can make based on the time frame you're considering is that Oklahoma has far more Big XII Championship titles. Of course, right outside of your time frame, Oklahoma actually won a NCAA title. They also have better all time numbers, I believe.

Were were just speaking specifically since 2000.

I don't care what he says. I just tell him, "Win a bowl game, and get back to me".
They've tried handing games to them already, see: Boise State, West Virgina

[DrunkPanda]

i think it depends... especially considering, what do you mean by "better"? the winners of the second best bowl game will be feeling happier after their game, if that's what you mean. but it also depends on how the championship game goes. if the loser loses by like 30 points, then there is all kinds of talk about how they didn't deserve to be there so that is worse. if they lose by 1 point, i think it is better. it will help their recruiting a lot and tey will get a lot of national attention and respect.

i'd rather have my team lose in the national championship game by 1 point than win the second place bowl. but i would rather win second place bowl than get blown out in the national championshp game

[RealBronco]

Good ole' OU giving me two memorable games I'll never forget. The only reason I remember the USC vs. OU Championship game is because it was on in the background while i was visiting with one of my lifelong best friends (whom i had a crush on since i was like...7 and yes she's a girl).......


and of course we all know why i remember the other one...