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    Who here thinks the bcs is one gigantic scam made by the bcs conferences to make far more money than the other conferences?

    I think it is not fair for teams like TCU and Boise who continually play better than 95% of the bcs teams and still have less of a shot at the title than those teams. Next season, Boise st "might have a shot" at the title due to going undefeated this season and having one loss last season. They've lost 4 games in 4 seasons, 2 of those seasons going undefeated, 1 going undefeated until the bowl game.


    And they have a shot...


    It's not fair to the seniors on the teams that have to go threw all season working their butts off only to leave without having a shot at the title even though they beat all the teams on their schedule.



    My school is fresno state, who is also non-bcs and has been getting whooped by boise (although we are their only competition).


    I just hate the bcs system and think we would all benefit from a playoff system. How entertaining would be be to have a march madness type of thing with college ball?

    How cool would it be to see cinderella teams like the fresno states of the the country playing for the national title?


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    No, bcs system is perfect the way it is (don't choose this)
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    we're a skarood until 2014 when the contract is up.
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    • #3
      Its a popularity contest , I would love to see a playoff system.

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      • #4
        This season there was a legit National Champion. Alabama would have STOMPED Boise State, TCU and Cincinnati.
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        • #5
          I sort of ...

          Originally posted by BVP
          This season there was a legit National Champion. Alabama would have STOMPED Boise State, TCU and Cincinnati.
          ... agree, but it still begs the question about the overall process.

          Is the current system adequate or not?

          I think not.
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          • #6
            since they made the plus 1 NC game, they have the legal authority under the current bcs contract to add games. So why dont they use the 4 main bcs games as a first round in an 8 team tournament.play 3 of them on new years, and the other on jan 2nd. the 2 semifinal games the following week and the NC the next week.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by BVP
              This season there was a legit National Champion. Alabama would have STOMPED Boise State, TCU and Cincinnati.
              How often does the best team win the national championship in basketball?




              I just think that other teams deserve a SHOT at the title. I'm not saying these teams are better but they play there asses off to play against their own kind? (non-bcs team)...


              They deserve a chance to play with the best for us to see, yep, bama is the best.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by BVP
                This season there was a legit National Champion. Alabama would have STOMPED Boise State, TCU and Cincinnati.
                alabama barely beat a texas team with a freshman qb that had never seen the field and started 1 of 11 with 2 picks....boise would have spanked that alabama butt

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by 12and4
                  Who here thinks the bcs is one gigantic scam made by the bcs conferences to make far more money than the other conferences?

                  I think it is not fair for teams like TCU and Boise who continually play better than 95% of the bcs teams and still have less of a shot at the title than those teams. Next season, Boise st "might have a shot" at the title due to going undefeated this season and having one loss last season. They've lost 4 games in 4 seasons, 2 of those seasons going undefeated, 1 going undefeated until the bowl game.


                  And they have a shot...


                  It's not fair to the seniors on the teams that have to go threw all season working their butts off only to leave without having a shot at the title even though they beat all the teams on their schedule.



                  My school is fresno state, who is also non-bcs and has been getting whooped by boise (although we are their only competition).


                  I just hate the bcs system and think we would all benefit from a playoff system. How entertaining would be be to have a march madness type of thing with college ball?

                  How cool would it be to see cinderella teams like the fresno states of the the country playing for the national title?


                  BCS is a scam.
                  So SEC teams that go through the season with 2 losses dont work their butts off?

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                  This is what I think they should do:

                  8 teams...16 would be too many, 4 wouldnt be enough.

                  So, it would be 8 teams with the first round of games at the top 4 seeds home stadiums. Thats right. There will be home field advantage in the first round. And then the final four will rotate to the 4 or 5 (depending on what happens with the Cotton Bowl) BCS venues.

                  Eight teams is a valid number. If you make it 16 and you dont have HFA, then you could have scenarios where a top 4 team may rest players since a loss to a top 4 team will almost provide certainty that theyll still end up in the top 16. It wouldnt be unthinkable for a top 4 team to end up randed around 9 or 10 after a loss.

                  If you are ranked 5-8 a loss will almost guarantee that youll fall out of the top 8. So, HFA creates another tier enhances the idea that every game counts. 1-4, you dont want to lose HFA, 5-8, you dont want to fall out of the tournament.

                  16 is too many. The biggest argument for the top 16 is that some obscure school might end up out of the top 8 but if they go undefeated like weve been seeing with Boise St and Utah, its likely theyll end up in the top 8. Once you get past that looking out for the little guy angle, the same gripes exist for all arbitrary cutoffs and you end up risking having teams with a lot of losses possibly winning the NC...and that would devalue the season.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fatfro
                    Its a popularity contest , I would love to see a playoff system.
                    Considering 3 different teams from the same conference has won the last four NC games, its hard to poke holes in its validity where the SEC is concerned. But then you have a drop off. Is a Big East team really better than some of the non BCS conferences? In 2008 when Utah and TCU played, its not likely there was a matchup of two better conference teams during Big East play.

                    But they really should stop with the polls until week 7 or something.

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                    • #11
                      The most likely playoff scenario would be to start with a 4 team playoff. After a "trial run" to see how things would work out (how much revenue that can be made) the playoffs would then likely expand.
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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by BVP
                        This season there was a legit National Champion. Alabama would have STOMPED Boise State, TCU and Cincinnati.
                        Originally posted by Apoc13
                        alabama barely beat a texas team with a freshman qb that had never seen the field and started 1 of 11 with 2 picks....boise would have spanked that alabama butt
                        this ^. BVP, the thing is, you and others in your boat do not know that. you are mistaking that OPINION with fact...

                        the thing is, sure, maybe Bama would stomp Boise State or TCU or Cinci (the last two, yes) but the simple point is, BSU and TCU both deserved to play them more than Texas did...and the funny thing is, Texas almost beat them. So how badass is Bama after all? I mean, they're lucky they were undefeated in the first place (same with Texas).

                        i just don't see how the "oh so and so WOULD HAVE STOMPED so and so" argument holds any water. until they play each other you don't know.

                        everyone thought OU would stomp us.... everyone thought TCU would win... well...people should learn when they're conquered.
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                        • #13
                          This is why there needs to be a playoff system, to eliminate these stupid arguments.

                          No reason to believe that Boise State would have whipped anyone, but there's no reason to think they couldn't . Right now, they don't even have a chance, and that sucks.

                          BCS sucks.

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                          • #14
                            Oh well. For now its Alabama and they deserve it. And they deserve it instead of Boise State because they played a good team every week in their conference, unlike Boise because they played MAYBE 2 good teams in their conference. Alabama played a tough season of games, compared to Boise who technically only won against 2 actual good teams.
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                            • #15
                              These big time schools in the BCS consideration claim that the lesser conferences don't have tough schedules/opponents therefore are not worthy of a title.

                              Boise State attempted to schedule a game with one of those power houses but they were denied. Nobody would bite. They even said they would play on their field.

                              The big time school is afraid.

                              There is a lawsuit in Utah being filed against the BCS after they beat Alabama.

                              There should in fact be a playoff scenario with the top 4 at least possibly the top 8.
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