Notre Dame, Nebraska, Missouri & Rutgers.

[Axemaster]

I got a text message yesterday saying that Nebraska, Missouri, Notre Dame and Rutgers have been given an offer to join the Big Ten.

Then I got another one saying that Nebraska says they have no offer; Missouri will not respond to speculation.

They are all saying that. Nothing will be done untill the Commish and AD's all have their big POWWOW. This all might just be political Bullying to get more of the TV revenue ect.

[Axemaster]

Well if they start winning, then maybe the Big 12/Texas monopoly won't happen. But for now, the only teams that are successful are Oklahoma and Texas.

Well the Big 12 Texas Monopoly was allready in place from it's inception in 1996, why do you think the HeadQuarters is in Dallas, the Champ. game is in Dallas for the next couple of years, and then Tex. Gov. Ann Richards strong armed the rest of the league into allowing Baylor in, "if they aren't allowed we won't come", not to mentioned Texas strong armed their old Academic policy for admission requirements onto the Old Big 8 Schools.

[OrangeBlueCrew]

... Lehigh/Lafayette older?

Sorry, should have said College Football Bowl Subdivision
Lehigh/Lafayette is older, but they are College Football Championship Subdivision

[samparnell]

Kansas vs. Missori 1891

Sorry, should have said College Football Bowl Subdivision
Lehigh/Lafayette is older, but they are College Football Championship Subdivision

Michigan vs. Notre Dame 1887

Cincinnati vs. Miami, Ohio 1888

Army vs. Navy 1890

Minnesota vs. Wisconsin 1890

It wasn't football, but Missouri vs. Kansas in the 1850s was pretty bloody.

[RealBronco]

I got a tweet earlier from my friend retweeting some sports person saying that the MWC would be more likely than not to invite BSU next month.


*shrugs*

i've heard this for so long i'm only believing it WHEN/IF it happens.

[HurricaneDovs]

I got a tweet earlier from my friend retweeting some sports person saying that the MWC would be more likely than not to invite BSU next month.


*shrugs*

i've heard this for so long i'm only believing it WHEN/IF it happens.

I really hope the MWC does invite BSU. And if they do I hope it take BSU an all of 3.4 seconds to say yes.

The MWC would be beyond ridiculous if they got Boise St.

If that happens then drop the Big East and add the MWC as a BCS conference. With Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, and even AFA that would be a strong conference.

[CoryWinget81]

I really hope the MWC does invite BSU. And if they do I hope it take BSU an all of 3.4 seconds to say yes.

The MWC would be beyond ridiculous if they got Boise St.

If that happens then drop the Big East and add the MWC as a BCS conference. With Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, and even AFA that would be a strong conference.

Big East? Cincy, WVU, Pitt? Only real teams of note. Rutgers may be on the rise, along with USF, but I agree that even without BSU the MWC should be a BCS conference instead of the Big East.

Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10 and WVU to the ACC.

[HurricaneDovs]

Big East? Cincy, WVU, Pitt? Only real teams of note. Rutgers may be on the rise, along with USF, but I agree that even without BSU the MWC should be a BCS conference instead of the Big East.

Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10 and WVU to the ACC.

With only 8 teams in the conference I wonder if it would just be better to dissolve the Big East entirely.

Some teams might be left out of the loop though. WVU and USF could go to the ACC. Like you said they could add Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10.
Then that leaves Louisville, UCONN, Syracuse, and Rutgers left. They could be added to the Big 10 and ACC but then that would make both conferences huge.

[samparnell]

Conference size

With only 8 teams in the conference I wonder if it would just be better to dissolve the Big East entirely.

Some teams might be left out of the loop though. WVU and USF could go to the ACC. Like you said they could add Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10.
Then that leaves Louisville, UCONN, Syracuse, and Rutgers left. They could be added to the Big 10 and ACC but then that would make both conferences huge.

For the Big East in football, since the departure of BC, Miami, Va.Tech and Temple, the question has been whom to add. Notre Dame has been approached (they play BB in the BE), but there isn't much incentive for them to join a conference. Navy and East Carolina are possibilities.

If a conference has ten, you play nine conference games and three non. That's a good size. The Mountain West could add one and be at the optimum size. Boise State would be the logical choice.

The MAC is the largest with thirteen teams. They and the twelve team conferences (ACC, SEC, C-USA) divide into two divisions with a championship game added at the end.

Before the Mountain West came into existence, they were in the WAC which had sixteen teams at the time. It proved to be too large.

The Big Ten already has eleven teams. Adding two or more would put them into a size of questionable manageability.

I used to think it would be cool for the Big East and Mountain West to systematically play interconference games on a rotating basis every year just to see how they compared. Cincy played SD State and Utah visited Louisville in '07, but that's far from the systematic rotation I envisioned.

The rivalry between fans of the BE & MWC is understandable. There seems to be a tendency for MWC fans to downgrade/underestimate BE football. USF beat Kansas in '08. West Virginia embarrassed Oklahoma in the '07 Fiesta Bowl after Rich Rodriguez left for Michigan. UConn beat Baylor in '08 and beat ND in overtime last year. Louisville beat Kansas State in '08. Even Syracuse beat ND in '08.

It's difficult to envision the Big Ten or ACC with more than twelve teams. Instead of creating bigger conferences and dissolving smaller ones, maybe an additional conference or two would be better.

Could it be that the BCS is really where the problem lies?

[Thors Hammer]

Rumor has it that if Notre Dame doesn't accept the Big Ten's offer, that they will target Boston College to try to break into the Boston media market.

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

I don't think ND is going anywhere.

[Axemaster]

I got a tweet earlier from my friend retweeting some sports person saying that the MWC would be more likely than not to invite BSU next month.


*shrugs*

i've heard this for so long i'm only believing it WHEN/IF it happens.

Why should an Up and Coming on strong program have to settle for the MWC? If they want to be in the Title hunt YEAR AFTER YEAR, does it not make more sense to join the PAC 10, or some other Major Conf.???

These Conf. realignments are GOING to happen, it's just WHEN no one knows. The $$$ is to strong for them not to!

[HurricaneDovs]

Why should an Up and Coming on strong program have to settle for the MWC? If they want to be in the Title hunt YEAR AFTER YEAR, does it not make more sense to join the PAC 10, or some other Major Conf.???

These Conf. realignments are GOING to happen, it's just WHEN no one knows. The $$$ is to strong for them not to!

Ive heard that BSU doenst have the academic standing to join the Pac-10 or something like that. So its not that they wont join, but that they wouldnt be invited.

At least I think thats what I heard on College Football Live on ESPN. I could be wrong.

[Axemaster]

Ive heard that BSU doenst have the academic standing to join the Pac-10 or something like that. So its not that they wont join, but that they wouldnt be invited.

At least I think thats what I heard on College Football Live on ESPN. I could be wrong.

Is that because their College entry requirements are lower, or is it that they will not allow Partial Qualifiers? I remember the partial Qualifier thing was a point of contention for Osborne , Nebraska , and the Big 8 back in 1996 when the Big 12 was formed, and that was ANOTHER thing that Texas wouldn't budge on.

[Al Wilson 4 Mayor]

Ive heard that BSU doenst have the academic standing to join the Pac-10 or something like that. So its not that they wont join, but that they wouldnt be invited.

At least I think thats what I heard on College Football Live on ESPN. I could be wrong.

I believe it has more to do with the size of our stadium (33k) and our media market. The media market would be ok, but the size of our stadium is too small for the PAC 10. Currently, the smallest stadium in the PAC 10 is Oregon State's at approximately 45k.

I don't believe our admission standards have anything to do with it because our gymnastic and wrestling programs are both in the PAC 10. Additionally, the majority of the PAC 10 schools have similar admission standards to BSU.