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  • Axemaster
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    Originally posted by RealBronco View Post
    has there been more conclusive talks or at least decisions being made? at this point i just can't get myself to believe the PAC-10/BIG12 merger. HOWEVER, if it does happen, and remaining teams join the Big 10 (or is it the Big East?) then that will mean two BCS conferences go bye bye, leaving openings for the MWC to become one of the new BCS conferences.

    i'll have to dig around for the article i read.
    That is EXACTLY what could happen!!! We will know by this Friday. The ball is in Nebraskas court now.

    The thing is though, the SEC would be forced to inrease its numbers if the Big 10 PAC 10 thing comes into reality.

    You think they want to be left behind in the SUPERCONFRENCE race??

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  • RealBronco
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    Originally posted by Axemaster View Post
    Now the Big 12, or I should say the BIG TEXASS, and the little 11, are giving Nebraska and Mizzou untill next Friday to decide on the Big 10 offer, which when it happens, 6 of the remaining 10 teams allready have an unofficial invite to the PAC 10, kind of a dominoe effect.

    LOTS of TUFF TALK from the Big 12 Commish last week!!!
    has there been more conclusive talks or at least decisions being made? at this point i just can't get myself to believe the PAC-10/BIG12 merger. HOWEVER, if it does happen, and remaining teams join the Big 10 (or is it the Big East?) then that will mean two BCS conferences go bye bye, leaving openings for the MWC to become one of the new BCS conferences.

    i'll have to dig around for the article i read.

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  • Axemaster
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    Now the Big 12, or I should say the BIG TEXASS, and the little 11, are giving Nebraska and Mizzou untill next Friday to decide on the Big 10 offer, which when it happens, 6 of the remaining 10 teams allready have an unofficial invite to the PAC 10, kind of a dominoe effect.

    LOTS of TUFF TALK from the Big 12 Commish last week!!!

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  • RealBronco
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    Originally posted by HurricaneDovs View Post
    I really hope the MWC does invite BSU. And if they do I hope it take BSU an all of 3.4 seconds to say yes.

    The MWC would be beyond ridiculous if they got Boise St.

    If that happens then drop the Big East and add the MWC as a BCS conference. With Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, and even AFA that would be a strong conference.
    Yeah if BSU gets the invite, they will accept. Bleymaier has already stated numerous times that he has extended his interest in joining the MWC to the presidents of that conference.

    it's WE who are waiting for the invite...

    Originally posted by Axemaster View Post
    Why should an Up and Coming on strong program have to settle for the MWC? If they want to be in the Title hunt YEAR AFTER YEAR, does it not make more sense to join the PAC 10, or some other Major Conf.???

    These Conf. realignments are GOING to happen, it's just WHEN no one knows. The $$$ is to strong for them not to!
    I would personally love going to the PAC-10 more so than going to the MWC but since the PAC-10 has showed no signs of being interested in expanding, the MWC is the next logical choice. There have been suggestions that Boise could fit into either the Big East (which I think we would dominate immediately) or the Big 12 has even come up in discussions if realignments happened, however the MWC and PAC-10 are more logical geographically.

    Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    I believe it has more to do with the size of our stadium (33k) and our media market. The media market would be ok, but the size of our stadium is too small for the PAC 10. Currently, the smallest stadium in the PAC 10 is Oregon State's at approximately 45k.

    I don't believe our admission standards have anything to do with it because our gymnastic and wrestling programs are both in the PAC 10. Additionally, the majority of the PAC 10 schools have similar admission standards to BSU.
    um yeah, what he said lol.

    Originally posted by HurricaneDovs View Post
    Ok. That makes sense. Like I said it was just something they said on College Gameday LIVE (not that they know what theyre talking about most of the time ).

    Would BSU be willing to add on or even build a bigger stadium if they wanted to join the Pac10? I still think itd be better if they joined the MWC.
    Actually that is already the plan that's been in the works since probably before our first Fiesta Bowl win. the first win gave us the funding to be able to build the new skyboxes (also i think the indoor practice facility came from that, but maybe from previous bowl wins).

    i know they are planning on taking out the track and building a seperate track facility so that they can build seats down further and closer to the sidelines. and then they do plan on (i believe) closing off the end zones eventually.

    i think the removal of the track is the first phase (actually 2nd i guess since we already built the skybox) in expanding the stadium.

    *EDIT* oh i forgot. along with some of the loot from our first Fiesta win, another huge reason the skyboxes were built as due to the large amount of alumni association donations. our alumni association is ridiculous faithful. i only wish i was well enough off financially to say i could be one of those people.
    Last edited by RealBronco; 05-22-2010, 11:25 PM.

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  • HurricaneDovs
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    Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    I believe it has more to do with the size of our stadium (33k) and our media market. The media market would be ok, but the size of our stadium is too small for the PAC 10. Currently, the smallest stadium in the PAC 10 is Oregon State's at approximately 45k.

    I don't believe our admission standards have anything to do with it because our gymnastic and wrestling programs are both in the PAC 10. Additionally, the majority of the PAC 10 schools have similar admission standards to BSU.
    Ok. That makes sense. Like I said it was just something they said on College Gameday LIVE (not that they know what theyre talking about most of the time ).

    Would BSU be willing to add on or even build a bigger stadium if they wanted to join the Pac10? I still think itd be better if they joined the MWC.

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  • Al Wilson 4 Mayor
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    Originally posted by HurricaneDovs View Post
    Ive heard that BSU doenst have the academic standing to join the Pac-10 or something like that. So its not that they wont join, but that they wouldnt be invited.

    At least I think thats what I heard on College Football Live on ESPN. I could be wrong.
    I believe it has more to do with the size of our stadium (33k) and our media market. The media market would be ok, but the size of our stadium is too small for the PAC 10. Currently, the smallest stadium in the PAC 10 is Oregon State's at approximately 45k.

    I don't believe our admission standards have anything to do with it because our gymnastic and wrestling programs are both in the PAC 10. Additionally, the majority of the PAC 10 schools have similar admission standards to BSU.

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  • Axemaster
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    Originally posted by HurricaneDovs View Post
    Ive heard that BSU doenst have the academic standing to join the Pac-10 or something like that. So its not that they wont join, but that they wouldnt be invited.

    At least I think thats what I heard on College Football Live on ESPN. I could be wrong.
    Is that because their College entry requirements are lower, or is it that they will not allow Partial Qualifiers? I remember the partial Qualifier thing was a point of contention for Osborne , Nebraska , and the Big 8 back in 1996 when the Big 12 was formed, and that was ANOTHER thing that Texas wouldn't budge on.

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  • HurricaneDovs
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    Originally posted by Axemaster View Post
    Why should an Up and Coming on strong program have to settle for the MWC? If they want to be in the Title hunt YEAR AFTER YEAR, does it not make more sense to join the PAC 10, or some other Major Conf.???

    These Conf. realignments are GOING to happen, it's just WHEN no one knows. The $$$ is to strong for them not to!
    Ive heard that BSU doenst have the academic standing to join the Pac-10 or something like that. So its not that they wont join, but that they wouldnt be invited.

    At least I think thats what I heard on College Football Live on ESPN. I could be wrong.

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  • Axemaster
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    Originally posted by RealBronco View Post
    I got a tweet earlier from my friend retweeting some sports person saying that the MWC would be more likely than not to invite BSU next month.


    *shrugs*

    i've heard this for so long i'm only believing it WHEN/IF it happens.
    Why should an Up and Coming on strong program have to settle for the MWC? If they want to be in the Title hunt YEAR AFTER YEAR, does it not make more sense to join the PAC 10, or some other Major Conf.???

    These Conf. realignments are GOING to happen, it's just WHEN no one knows. The $$$ is to strong for them not to!

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  • xX-Bronco-Xx
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    I don't think ND is going anywhere.

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  • Thors Hammer
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    Rumor has it that if Notre Dame doesn't accept the Big Ten's offer, that they will target Boston College to try to break into the Boston media market.

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  • samparnell
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    Conference size

    Originally posted by HurricaneDovs View Post
    With only 8 teams in the conference I wonder if it would just be better to dissolve the Big East entirely.

    Some teams might be left out of the loop though. WVU and USF could go to the ACC. Like you said they could add Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10.
    Then that leaves Louisville, UCONN, Syracuse, and Rutgers left. They could be added to the Big 10 and ACC but then that would make both conferences huge.
    For the Big East in football, since the departure of BC, Miami, Va.Tech and Temple, the question has been whom to add. Notre Dame has been approached (they play BB in the BE), but there isn't much incentive for them to join a conference. Navy and East Carolina are possibilities.

    If a conference has ten, you play nine conference games and three non. That's a good size. The Mountain West could add one and be at the optimum size. Boise State would be the logical choice.

    The MAC is the largest with thirteen teams. They and the twelve team conferences (ACC, SEC, C-USA) divide into two divisions with a championship game added at the end.

    Before the Mountain West came into existence, they were in the WAC which had sixteen teams at the time. It proved to be too large.

    The Big Ten already has eleven teams. Adding two or more would put them into a size of questionable manageability.

    I used to think it would be cool for the Big East and Mountain West to systematically play interconference games on a rotating basis every year just to see how they compared. Cincy played SD State and Utah visited Louisville in '07, but that's far from the systematic rotation I envisioned.

    The rivalry between fans of the BE & MWC is understandable. There seems to be a tendency for MWC fans to downgrade/underestimate BE football. USF beat Kansas in '08. West Virginia embarrassed Oklahoma in the '07 Fiesta Bowl after Rich Rodriguez left for Michigan. UConn beat Baylor in '08 and beat ND in overtime last year. Louisville beat Kansas State in '08. Even Syracuse beat ND in '08.

    It's difficult to envision the Big Ten or ACC with more than twelve teams. Instead of creating bigger conferences and dissolving smaller ones, maybe an additional conference or two would be better.

    Could it be that the BCS is really where the problem lies?

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  • HurricaneDovs
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    Originally posted by CoryWinget81 View Post
    Big East? Cincy, WVU, Pitt? Only real teams of note. Rutgers may be on the rise, along with USF, but I agree that even without BSU the MWC should be a BCS conference instead of the Big East.

    Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10 and WVU to the ACC.
    With only 8 teams in the conference I wonder if it would just be better to dissolve the Big East entirely.

    Some teams might be left out of the loop though. WVU and USF could go to the ACC. Like you said they could add Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10.
    Then that leaves Louisville, UCONN, Syracuse, and Rutgers left. They could be added to the Big 10 and ACC but then that would make both conferences huge.

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  • CoryWinget81
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    Originally posted by HurricaneDovs View Post
    I really hope the MWC does invite BSU. And if they do I hope it take BSU an all of 3.4 seconds to say yes.

    The MWC would be beyond ridiculous if they got Boise St.

    If that happens then drop the Big East and add the MWC as a BCS conference. With Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, and even AFA that would be a strong conference.
    Big East? Cincy, WVU, Pitt? Only real teams of note. Rutgers may be on the rise, along with USF, but I agree that even without BSU the MWC should be a BCS conference instead of the Big East.

    Pitt and Cincy to the Big 10 and WVU to the ACC.

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  • HurricaneDovs
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    Originally posted by RealBronco View Post
    I got a tweet earlier from my friend retweeting some sports person saying that the MWC would be more likely than not to invite BSU next month.


    *shrugs*

    i've heard this for so long i'm only believing it WHEN/IF it happens.
    I really hope the MWC does invite BSU. And if they do I hope it take BSU an all of 3.4 seconds to say yes.

    The MWC would be beyond ridiculous if they got Boise St.

    If that happens then drop the Big East and add the MWC as a BCS conference. With Utah, BYU, TCU, BSU, and even AFA that would be a strong conference.

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