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  • #16
    Originally posted by Bronco51
    I would take Bieniemy over Logan any day. Bieniemy would at least have a hope of bringing in some real talent from all over the nation. Logan would just be able to recruit locally, and that ain't gonna cut it. This team has been missing playmakers for a LOOOOOONG time. They need someone who can bring in actual talent and not someone to soothe the local natives. Not if they want to win.
    Bienemy has roots in SoCo doesn't he?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by colinski
      We have the location to appeal to PAC12 region kids, we just need to sell them.
      how so?? most of the top talent throughout the pac10 schools comes from south cali, why would snow and mountains appeal to them? theres more talent in socal high schools than in the rest of western states combined

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      • #18
        I would like to see Logan join the Program in some coaching capacity, but I would like for him to prove himself first at the College level in a coordinator/assistant position and maybe take the Head Coaching Job down the line.

        I believe he would be a good coach, but might struggle to recruit outside of Colorado. If he does really well and gets promoted to Head Coach at some point, I think he will have a lot more to sell to recruits.

        My wish is CU hiring McCartney as head coach and Dave Logan as Offensive Coordinator, because let's be honest... McCartney isn't goin to coach forever.
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Sparky The Sun Devil
          how so?? most of the top talent throughout the pac10 schools comes from south cali, why would snow and mountains appeal to them? theres more talent in socal high schools than in the rest of western states combined
          Because snow and mountains generally appeal to people who have never seen or had much experience with them before. Darrell Scott, Josh Smith and plenty of others who had committed to CU from the state of California went on and on about how nice the campus is and how much of a change of pace the place is compared to SoCal. It's more appealing than you may think.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Sparky The Sun Devil
            how so?? most of the top talent throughout the pac10 schools comes from south cali, why would snow and mountains appeal to them? theres more talent in socal high schools than in the rest of western states combined
            More than half of Boise's roster is from Southern California. The coaches and the family environment appeals to them along with the geography. The Boise river runs right behind the stadium and the campus and there's a nice view of the foothills. Usually they visit here in the spring, so they don't know what January is like.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Spyder
              Because snow and mountains generally appeal to people who have never seen or had much experience with them before. Darrell Scott, Josh Smith and plenty of others who had committed to CU from the state of California went on and on about how nice the campus is and how much of a change of pace the place is compared to SoCal. It's more appealing than you may think.
              This is true I'm a student at CU, and ther are a TON of students from Cali. I have many friends here from Cali, and they say the atmosphere in Boulder is very similiar to Cali, but we have Beautiful Mountains here.

              Just goes to show that if people can see promising improvements in this program, that they can convince many 4 and 5 star recruits to come here. CU is a great school, the women are gorgeous, the town is Beautiful, and it's 30 minutes from Denver. Start to be competitive again and who wouldn't want to come and play here?
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              • #22
                Go coach intramurals, brother. Go coach intramurals.

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                • #23
                  I'd like to see Bill McCartney come in as AD and he should hire Eric Bieniemy. That would be dream scenario imho.

                  As for this Logan guy jumping straight to College I just point y'all towards University of North Texas and Coach Dodge and how bad that turned out. Coach Dodge was something of a folk hero in Texas High School football. Southlake Carroll could be penned as the Odessa Permian of the 21 century.

                  This Coach Logan needs some Coordinator experience first and get a feel how the college athletics programs are run before he gets his chance.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by BroncosTX77
                    I'd like to see Bill McCartney come in as AD and he should hire Eric Bieniemy. That would be dream scenario imho.

                    As for this Logan guy jumping straight to College I just point y'all towards University of North Texas and Coach Dodge and how bad that turned out. Coach Dodge was something of a folk hero in Texas High School football. Southlake Carroll could be penned as the Odessa Permian of the 21 century.

                    This Coach Logan needs some Coordinator experience first and get a feel how the college athletics programs are run before he gets his chance.
                    Well in all fairness, Dave Logan was an All-American in College and Played in The NFL, but I do agree that he should get a coordinator job first in College before jumping into a head coach position.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor
                      More than half of Boise's roster is from Southern California. The coaches and the family environment appeals to them along with the geography. The Boise river runs right behind the stadium and the campus and there's a nice view of the foothills. Usually they visit here in the spring, so they don't know what January is like.
                      I know, but they dont pull in the talent recruiting classes the a lot of the pac12 does. Colorado likely wont find as good coaching as boise and that schedule.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Sparky The Sun Devil
                        I know, but they dont pull in the talent recruiting classes the a lot of the pac12 does. Colorado likely wont find as good coaching as boise and that schedule.
                        Unless if CU gets a coach with nfl experience. Players want to be coached by someone who can fast track them to the nfl.
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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Atwnbroncfan
                          Unless if CU gets a coach with nfl experience. Players want to be coached by someone who can fast track them to the nfl.
                          nfl experience, another reason to hire dennis erickson!!! I would love CU so much if the hired him!!!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Atwnbroncfan
                            Unless if CU gets a coach with nfl experience. Players want to be coached by someone who can fast track them to the nfl.
                            Yep that's why I was hoping Shanny would take the job since he has so many ties in Colorado, but I think it was obvious he would rather coach in the NFL. However, Kyle Shanahan is still out there...
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Sparky The Sun Devil
                              I know, but they dont pull in the talent recruiting classes the a lot of the pac12 does. Colorado likely wont find as good coaching as boise and that schedule.
                              I read that Mike Bellotti is on their A list!! If there is any coach out of the list who know how to recruit in the Pac 10 is Bellotti! With this said, I hope Washington St can somehow land Bellotti because it'll be brutual if Paul Wulff remains the coach!! Whoever the coach is for CU, he better know how to recruit kids from Cali as well as CO!!

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                              • #30


                                Buffs chancellor would like new coach to have recent Pac-10/Big 12 ties
                                Posted by John Taylor on November 10, 2010, 12:06 PM EST

                                Many names have been tossed out as potential replacements in the 24 hours or so since Dan Hawkins was fired by Colorado. From Bill McCartney to Troy Calhoun to pipe dream Les Miles to my personal favorite pipe dream Jon Gruden, at least a baker’s dozen names have popped onto the regional and national radar whether they are reasonable candidates or not.

                                In a teleconference with local media, however, CU chancellor Phil DiStefano gave a very big hint as to which direction you may want to look if you’re attempting to divine where the Buffaloes might find their next head coach.

                                “[I would like] a coach who is either successful now as a head coach or has recent coaching experience either with someone from the Pac 12 or the Big 12,” DiStefano was quoted by the Denver Post as saying. “Somebody in a conference similar to, if not equal to, the conference that we’re joining.”

                                Of course, nothing is written in stone, especially this early on in the process. Colorado, we would hope, wouldn’t so stridently adhere to a tack that severely limits their pool of potential candidates. And, DiStefano said on the teleconference that the final decision will rest in the hands of athletic director Mike Bohn, so what DiStefano would like may not necessarily fall squarely in line with what Bohn wants. Still, the chancellor would need to sign off on any hire, so his guidelines for the hire should not be completely dismissed simply because he won’t be making the “final” decision.

                                Two of the names mentioned as early possibilities — if not probabilities when it comes to a serious look — are Air Force’s Troy Calhoun and San Diego State’s Brady Hoke. Neither of those coaches would seem to fit DiStefano’s criteria. Nor would Bill McCartney, the former CU head coach who hasn’t coached since 1994 but is presumed to be one of the frontrunners (which tells you everything you need to know about the current state of the football program, incidentally).

                                Brent Venables, on the other hand, falls well within DiStefano’s scope of potential candidates. Named by the Boulder Daily Camera Tuesday as a coach who’s known to be on Colorado’s radar, the current defensive coordinator at Oklahoma played at Kansas State in the early nineties and has been an assistant or a coordinator in the Big 12 since his playing days ended. Mike Bellotti and Mark Mangino also have recent head-coaching ties to the Pac-10/Big 12, but money might preclude the former from being a candidate while the stigma surrounding the latter’s departure from Kansas might cause schools to shy away in this cycle of hiring.

                                If you take DiStefano’s words at face value, two other names would have to pop up on the public radar as well at some point in the not-too-distant future — Oklahoma State offensive coordinator Dana Holgorsen and Florida State defensive coordinator Mark Stoops. Both of those coordinators fit perfectly with the recent Pac-10/Big 12 ties and would be a very good fit for where the school is right now financially, which will likely be as large a consideration as anything else.

                                Kevin Sumlin, who we’ve been told is a favorite of some associated with the university, coached in the Big 12 from 2001 through 2007 before moving on to become Houston’s head coach. Given his three-year run as the Cougars’ sideline boss, he would be a bit pricier than the previous two, but could be amenable to the $2 million annually neighborhood CU will be searching. We’re also hearing that the school may be willing to head upwards of $2.5 million per for a new coach — the right coach — which would very much put Sumlin in play.

                                If we had to bet right now, we’d wager that, ultimately, Colorado’s new head coach would be one of the final three coaches we listed. And all that is a guess as a new head coach likely won’t be hired for at least a month, if not further into the future, and situations at various jobs around the country could change in an instant and shake up the ongoing searches at Colorado, Minnesota, North Texas and (insert next school dropping the coaching guillotine here).

                                Then again, there’s a certain pirate currently residing in Key West who could become a major factor in this search in very short order. Yes, Mike Leach has been and will continue to be discussed by the administration. Is it probable that he will be the Buffs’ next head coach? No. Is it possible? Yes.

                                Do not dismiss Leach as a possibility. Colorado certainly hasn’t.

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