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    INDIANAPOLIS - Five football student-athletes from The Ohio State University must sit out the first five games of the 2011 season for selling awards, gifts and university apparel and receiving improper benefits in 2009, the NCAA has determined.

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    A sixth football student-athlete must sit out the first game in 2011 for receiving discounted services in violation of NCAA rules.

    The violations fall under the NCAA’s preferential treatment bylaws.

    In addition to missing five games next season, student-athletes Mike Adams, Dan Herron, DeVier Posey, Terrelle Pryor and Solomon Thomas must repay money and benefits ranging in value from $1,000 to $2,500. The repayments must be made to a charity.

    Student-athlete Jordan Whiting must sit out the first game next year and pay $150 to a charity for the value of services that were discounted because of his status as a student-athlete.

    “These are significant penalties based on findings and information provided by the university,” said Kevin Lennon, NCAA vice president of academic and membership affairs.

    The decision from the NCAA student-athlete reinstatement staff does not include a withholding condition for the Allstate Sugar Bowl. The withholding condition was suspended and the student-athletes will be eligible to play in the bowl game Jan. 4 based on several factors.

    These include the acknowledgment the student-athletes did not receive adequate rules education during the time period the violations occurred, Lennon said.

    NCAA policy allows suspending withholding penalties for a championship or bowl game if it was reasonable at the time the student-athletes were not aware they were committing violations, along with considering the specific circumstances of each situation. In addition, there must not be any competitive advantage related to the violations, and the student-athletes must have eligibility remaining.

    The policy for suspending withholding conditions for bowl games or NCAA championship competition recognizes the unique opportunity these events provide at the end of a season, and they are evaluated differently from a withholding perspective. In this instance, the facts are consistent with the established policy, Lennon said.

    Gene Smith, associate vice president and director of athletics at Ohio State, said the university will “further enhance” its rules education in the future based on this situation.

    “We were not as explicit with our student-athlete education as we should have been in the 2007-08 and 2008-09 academic years regarding the sale of apparel, awards and gifts issued by the athletics department,” Smith said. “We began to significantly improve our education in November of 2009 to address these issues. After going through this experience, we will further enhance our education for all our student-athletes as we move forward.”

    The standard withholding condition in cases like these involving the five student-athletes is four games, or 30 percent of a season. A fifth game was added to the penalty because these student-athletes did not immediately disclose the violations when presented with the appropriate rules education, Lennon said.

    “Once a student-athlete understands a violation has occurred, they must immediately come forward to report it,” he said. “That did not happen, so the additional one-game penalty was imposed.”

    The university declared the student-athletes ineligible on Monday (Dec. 20) and requested reinstatement from the NCAA.

    As part of their reinstatement, Adams must repay $1,000 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring and Herron must repay $1,150 for selling his football jersey, pants and shoes for $1,000 and receiving discounted services worth $150.

    Posey must repay $1,250 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,200 and receiving discounted services worth $50, while Pryor must repay $2,500 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring, a 2009 Fiesta Bowl sportsmanship award and his 2008 Gold Pants, a gift from the university.

    Solomon must repay $1,505 for selling his 2008 Big Ten championship ring for $1,000, his 2008 Gold Pants for $350 and receiving discounted services worth $155.

    During the reinstatement process, each case is evaluated based on the specific facts of the particular case by NCAA staff. Prior to reaching a decision, staff considers any guidelines
    established by the Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, a student-athlete’s responsibility for the violation, as well as any mitigating factors presented by the institution.

    The university can appeal the decision to the Division I NCAA Committee on Student-Athlete Reinstatement, an independent committee comprised of representatives from NCAA member colleges, universities and athletic conferences. This committee can reduce or remove the condition, but it cannot increase the staff-imposed conditions.

    Reinstatement decisions are independent of the NCAA enforcement process and typically are made once the facts of the student-athlete’s involvement are determined. The reinstatement process is likely to conclude prior to the close of an enforcement investigation. It is NCAA policy not to comment on current, pending or potential investigations.
    Even as a fan of the team I would drop the hammer on the players involved .... This is twice this year that we have seen the NCAA bend the rules for TV ratings and money..(Ohio St/Auburn) I believe its so comical its tragic ....

    I don't think they will but if I was the AD or Jim Tressel these players would not be playing in the Bowl game and as a University I would better myself and govern the suspensions correctly..The suspensions would be effective immediately ....

    I don't know if I have ever seen anything more laughable in sports besides Al Davis then the NCAA suspending players next year but not the next game for glaring money making purposes .... This unknown entity the NCAA imo needs to be put in check ...

    I don't care if as a fan I'm added my own perceived value to the items in question the thought of selling them items to me is outright disgusting...To me it tarnishes their legacy and they could pack their things and go as far as playing next season ....
    Last edited by LarryDean; 12-24-2010, 04:18 AM.
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    As a sport fan, that just means OSU might lose 5 games.
    As a Michigan fan, I wish we played OSU in the first 5.
    All in all, I agree with you Larry Dean.
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    • #3
      That is a really crappy predicament up there in OSU.

      Shouldn't anyone with common sense know that something would be wrong when you are doing crap like that.

      I bet they are sorry... About getting caught.

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      • #4
        the ncaa is dumb . . . . why can a player not sell something they dont want

        i hate these rules
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        • #5
          This sucks............
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          • #6
            Originally posted by SBboundBRONCOS View Post
            the ncaa is dumb . . . . why can a player not sell something they dont want

            i hate these rules
            What if their daddys sold the stuff for them?

            Then is it ok?


            But in all reality, these players have no business playing in the Bowl game. The NCAA is total BS

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kno-Sean View Post
              What if their daddys sold the stuff for them?

              Then is it ok?


              But in all reality, these players have no business playing in the Bowl game. The NCAA is total BS
              There money grabbers, there not gonna take Terrill out of a bowl game, they will lose viewers and tickets. Nobody wants to watch 5 back ups including a QB who name no one knows.
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              • #8
                Some recent NCAA (and SEC) decisions roar past preferential treatment all the way to corruption. Sad days ahead-it will all come out eventually-just not until the bowl games are over.

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                • #9
                  I don't like Ohio State anyway.

                  What I hate is how NCAA keeps nit-picking at things. Once Tennessee got in trouble they kept getting them for anything they could. It was the Lane Kiffen crap. Then Pearl. Now they are jumping football players for getting in free at a bar. Are you serious? Are you telling me John Wall and Damarcus Counsins never got preferential treatment? It's guys like John Calipari who keep cheating and never get caught.

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                  • #10
                    If those guys had been TCU players, they would have been banned from playing in the bowl game.

                    I think everyone knows that too.

                    Anything to make sure TCU doesn't look like they belonged in the championship game... which they do.

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                    • #11
                      So he tries to differentiate the AQ teams from the nonAQ teams by putting the nonAQ teams down...


                      Difference is that even teams from TCU and Boise know that you don't sell your rings and crap for money while you are still a student athlete...


                      sorry guy, but your team just epic failed...

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jetrazor74 View Post
                        If those guys had been TCU players, they would have been banned from playing in the bowl game.

                        I think everyone knows that too.

                        Anything to make sure TCU doesn't look like they belonged in the championship game... which they do.
                        This is why there absolutely has to be a playoff in College, because as much as I love ya Jet, I disagree.

                        I think that both Auburn and Oregon beat TCU, but nobody will ever get to find out and know for sure because of the way it's set up.

                        I know its been talked about to time and again, but that continues to drive me crazy.

                        I get so steamed listening to stupid Bill Plaschke talk about how the computer always gets it right in the end.................
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by thatkidhunt View Post
                          This is why there absolutely has to be a playoff in College, because as much as I love ya Jet, I disagree.

                          I think that both Auburn and Oregon beat TCU, but nobody will ever get to find out and know for sure because of the way it's set up.

                          I know its been talked about to time and again, but that continues to drive me crazy.

                          I get so steamed listening to stupid Bill Plaschke talk about how the computer always gets it right in the end.................
                          I agree and NCAA can actually fuse the bowl games with a playoff system.
                          One reason why they wont have a playoff is because there afraid to lose money, but with a fusion they not only will save there money but gain money as well.
                          Back in the old days the Rose Bowl was the big daddy bowl, so let that be the championship game. Have a 8 team or 16 team system.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by thatkidhunt View Post
                            This is why there absolutely has to be a playoff in College, because as much as I love ya Jet, I disagree.

                            I think that both Auburn and Oregon beat TCU, but nobody will ever get to find out and know for sure because of the way it's set up.

                            I know its been talked about to time and again, but that continues to drive me crazy.

                            I get so steamed listening to stupid Bill Plaschke talk about how the computer always gets it right in the end.................
                            How often in ANY sport do the #1 and #2 teams play each other for the final???

                            That alone should spark a playoff system...

                            Although I do agree that both Oregon and Auburn are better teams than TCU, ANYTHING can happen in a playoff and ANY team can beat ANY team, which is what i'd like to see happen... rather than all the top schools keeping all the money.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by InsaneBlaze23 View Post
                              I agree and NCAA can actually fuse the bowl games with a playoff system.
                              One reason why they wont have a playoff is because there afraid to lose money, but with a fusion they not only will save there money but gain money as well.
                              Back in the old days the Rose Bowl was the big daddy bowl, so let that be the championship game. Have a 8 team or 16 team system.
                              The only thing I would change on your idea is the location of the championship game. In my opinion, it should rotate. The Super Bowl and the NCAA Basketball championship is never played in the same place.

                              I agree with the 8 team playoff. If you're not in the top 8 in the nation, I don't believe you are the best team. I just want this to be tried out and see how it goes.

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