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  • 12and4
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    the college experience and atmosphere >>>>>> NFL

    pretty much everything else is better about the NFL though IMO.

    especially the post season and competitive balance. cannot stand the NCAA college bowl system, with or without the BCS.

    and games where you know (baring a miracle) what team is going to win the game when the big schools play the little ones just to get easy free ooc wins.

    its not even remotely competitive and sure as hell isn't Worth the price to see the games live.

    but, if you take it for what it is and just enjoy the expierience, they can be much more fun than NFL games.

    especially when you got two ranked teams gong against each other, those are the only games that are close to being worthy of the NFL from a quality standpoint, in my honest opinion.
    Don't underestimate fresno

    but yeah the "postseason" (if thats what they want to call it) is bogus.

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by 12and4 View Post
    To me, College > NFL because I actually get to go to the games and also because i attend the college. Plus I've had season tix since like 2001
    the college experience and atmosphere >>>>>> NFL

    pretty much everything else is better about the NFL though IMO.

    especially the post season and competitive balance. cannot stand the NCAA college bowl system, with or without the BCS.

    and games where you know (baring a miracle) what team is going to win the game when the big schools play the little ones just to get easy free ooc wins.

    its not even remotely competitive and sure as hell isn't Worth the price to see the games live.

    but, if you take it for what it is and just enjoy the expierience, they can be much more fun than NFL games.

    especially when you got two ranked teams gong against each other, those are the only games that are close to being worthy of the NFL from a quality standpoint, in my honest opinion.

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  • 12and4
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    Originally posted by Frenchy180 View Post
    This may finally be the year I get into college ball... Even then it won't be the same
    To me, College > NFL because I actually get to go to the games and also because i attend the college. Plus I've had season tix since like 2001

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  • Frenchy180
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    Originally posted by 12and4 View Post
    I can't wait till college ball... who cares about nfl anymore.
    This may finally be the year I get into college ball... Even then it won't be the same

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by 12and4 View Post
    I can't wait till college ball... who cares about nfl anymore.
    i hear ya, i am exited for Nebraska to play in their new conference, even though its gonna be rough i think lol

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  • 12and4
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    I can't wait till college ball... who cares about nfl anymore.

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  • samparnell
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    College Conferences

    Originally posted by Axemaster View Post
    I honestly think that TCU WOULD compete in the Big 12, and it is a SHAME that this opportunity was missed!
    There will be more realignment in the future.

    I think it would be cool for each Mountain West team to schedule a Big East team every season on a rotational basis. There has been a little bit of play between those two conferences. It would be interesting and just might prove something.

    Big East would probably not agree because they fear MWC. There is room in the schedules for such matchups. Big East needs to stop playing FCS/DIA teams. It isn't helping them.

    I think there is a lawsuit, Utah I think. Litigation is resonable because of the amount of money involved.

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  • Axemaster
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    It may turn out that way. The Big East is in a bit of disarray as far as football goes.

    Randy Edsall left UConn. Dave Wannstedt was forced out at Pitt and his replacement didn't work out. Bill Stewart does a decent job at WVa., but I don't know if he is as dynamic as Rich Rodriguez who shouldn't have left.

    Butch Jones didn't do very well at Cincinnati in 2010; only four wins. Skip Holtz had a decent first season at USF. Rutgers is mediocre recently. Syracuse looks like they are bouncing back. Louisville hasn't done well since Petrino left.

    WVa and USF look like the best with Syracuse making a comeback, but I don't know how they will match up against TCU especially after Patterson improves his recruiting in Texas. Football players in that state might opt for TCU over TexTech, Baylor and Texas A&M in the hopes of making it to the BCS Championship Game.

    Gary Patterson is one of the great innovators of college football. He really had TCU ready to play Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. Winning that game was a big deal in part because Bret Bielema is one of the many great Head Coaches from the Hayden Fry coaching tree. He and the Badgers didn't go down easy.
    I honestly think that TCU WOULD compete in the Big 12, and it is a SHAME that this opportunity was missed!

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  • samparnell
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    Big East

    Originally posted by Axemaster View Post
    TCU will flat out dominate every year in the Big East.
    It may turn out that way. The Big East is in a bit of disarray as far as football goes.

    Randy Edsall left UConn. Dave Wannstedt was forced out at Pitt and his replacement didn't work out. Bill Stewart does a decent job at WVa., but I don't know if he is as dynamic as Rich Rodriguez who shouldn't have left.

    Butch Jones didn't do very well at Cincinnati in 2010; only four wins. Skip Holtz had a decent first season at USF. Rutgers is mediocre recently. Syracuse looks like they are bouncing back. Louisville hasn't done well since Petrino left.

    WVa and USF look like the best with Syracuse making a comeback, but I don't know how they will match up against TCU especially after Patterson improves his recruiting in Texas. Football players in that state might opt for TCU over TexTech, Baylor and Texas A&M in the hopes of making it to the BCS Championship Game.

    Gary Patterson is one of the great innovators of college football. He really had TCU ready to play Wisconsin in the Rose Bowl. Winning that game was a big deal in part because Bret Bielema is one of the many great Head Coaches from the Hayden Fry coaching tree. He and the Badgers didn't go down easy.

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  • 12and4
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    Originally posted by Axemaster View Post
    TCU will flat out dominate every year in the Big East.
    I agree they will the next few years, but you never know after that.

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  • Axemaster
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    Originally posted by samparnell View Post
    The one in which I'm most interested is when TCU joins the Big East. Being in a BCS conference will help Gary Patterson's recruiting efforts in Texas. Going undefeated in the Big East is a possibility for TCU. The Big East will get to know one of the great defensive innovators of college football in Patterson.

    The other one I find intriguing is the merger of the best part of the WAC with what's left of the Mountain West after the defections. The head coaches in the new Mountain West will be among the most innovative in college football: Chris Ault, Rocky Long, Chris Petersen, Pat Hill, Kyle Whittingham, Greg McMackin and Troy Calhoun.

    It will also be interesting to see how well Utah can do in the PAC 12 especially after they benefit from better recruiting.

    I wonder what BYU's schedule will look like after they are completely independent?
    TCU will flat out dominate every year in the Big East.

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  • samparnell
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    Teams Changing Conferences

    The one in which I'm most interested is when TCU joins the Big East. Being in a BCS conference will help Gary Patterson's recruiting efforts in Texas. Going undefeated in the Big East is a possibility for TCU. The Big East will get to know one of the great defensive innovators of college football in Patterson.

    The other one I find intriguing is the merger of the best part of the WAC with what's left of the Mountain West after the defections. The head coaches in the new Mountain West will be among the most innovative in college football: Chris Ault, Rocky Long, Chris Petersen, Pat Hill, Kyle Whittingham, Greg McMackin and Troy Calhoun.

    It will also be interesting to see how well Utah can do in the PAC 12 especially after they benefit from better recruiting.

    I wonder what BYU's schedule will look like after they are completely independent?

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  • emac87
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    Originally posted by Axemaster View Post
    I think the Pelini Bros. will be OK on Defense. The Huskers are the total exact opposite of Denver, the Defense is strong, and the O, especially the O-line and the passing game are weak, and I don't see it getting any better, unless they are going to return to a old style Neb. Off, pound pound pound, put the D to sleep, then burn the D on a play action pass to a wide open tight end like they used to be able to do.

    Should be interesting.
    The defense will be stiff next year. They're going back to a tradition 4-3 with strong run defenders in their LB w/ Compton and Sean Fisher. And Lavonte David is a speed demon, but supposedly is putting on a few pounds to be more effective in the run game. They will still use the Peso sparingly, as Michigan runs a spread/speed oriented offense, along w/ some other teams possibly.

    The loffense ooks to be completely reworked w/ Tim Beck as the new O-coordinator. He has simplified the offense and that should help the QBs tremendously. The O-line will be improved I believe. They are going to have possibly 2, maybe 3 freshmen start on the line in Reeves, Klachko and Tyler Moore. They are a young line, but they are going to be good, especially in a couple years.

    Although Helu is gone, they get 2-3 outstanding new RBs that are all freshmen. I would assume 1 of them will be redshirted. But Braylon Heard has finally enrolled and true freshman Aaron Green is supposed to be something else, as he has game changing speed and incredible vision for a kid just out of HS.

    No doubt, Nebraska will have their hands full as the schedule makers did them no favors, but I think it will be fun to see how they measure up to the Big 10's best. The key is getting back to running the football and moving away from that terrible offense last year (thank God Watson is gone.... he was not on the same page as Pelini, and the O-line coach) and cutting down on the stupid penalties that killed them game after game. The run defense will also be a huge factor this year. They got torched a few games last year, but they were always in the Peso, and never made adjustments. Peso won't fly in the Big 10, and I know they are going back to 3 linebackers instead of 2, and sometimes 1.

    GBR

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  • baphamet
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    Originally posted by 12and4 View Post
    Only a charger fan would know how to have fun even at defeat. Evolution i guess


    edit: wait this isn't the smack forum.
    is a little smack outside of the smack forum too much for ya?

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  • 12and4
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    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    yeah, fun for us.
    Only a charger fan would know how to have fun even at defeat. Evolution i guess


    edit: wait this isn't the smack forum.

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