Penn State - Are the Sanctions Right?

[HUMCALC]

The players went through the games and experienced the wins first hand. They can't take away the memories.

I think it was more about taking Joes name out of the record book, and telling others that if you decide to put football, or your image, over human decency, others won't just look the other way.

So while you're at it, why not take away all his wins? Erase his name from the record books completely. The police department commended what he did

[theMileHighGuy]

That there shows the lack of human decency these people have. Paterno, the president of the university, the athletic director, and all the others that were aware of this and just ignored it put their football team over the children that were sexually molested by Sandusky.

If anybody sees or knows about something wrong like this - it is their duty to inform law enforcement. By choosing team over victim they have shown a complete lack of decency. What else would they cover up? If they will cover up a coach raping young boys, what else will they cover up? Where does it stop?

Further, with the fanaticism that Penn State has shown over Sandusky (the riots, etc..) they clearly have shown that they agreed with the cover up.

That is why the football program needs to be suspended for multiple seasons. That entire culture that exists at that university needs to CEASE to be. I don't care how big that program is - they have already shown their true colors and just how far they as a community will go to protect a child molester and his enablers.

I agree with that, for sure.

I don't agree with that, at all. There was not one person rioting for Sandusky.

Why punish the student athletes? The people associated with it are all gone now.

[Charlie Brown]

Nope, it is not justifiable by any means. Just saying that he probably wouldn't be the only one to make that same decision and try to save their team.

That there shows the lack of human decency these people have. Paterno, the president of the university, the athletic director, and all the others that were aware of this and just ignored it put their football team over the children that were sexually molested by Sandusky.

If anybody sees or knows about something wrong like this - it is their duty to inform law enforcement. By choosing team over victim they have shown a complete lack of decency. What else would they cover up? If they will cover up a coach raping young boys, what else will they cover up? Where does it stop? Further, with the fanaticism that Penn State has shown over Sandusky (the riots, etc..) they clearly have shown that they agreed with the cover up.

That is why the football program needs to be suspended for multiple seasons. That entire culture that exists at that university needs to CEASE to be. I don't care how big that program is - they have already shown their true colors and just how far they as a community will go to protect a child molester and his enablers.

[theMileHighGuy]

Nope, it is not justifiable by any means. Just saying that he probably wouldn't be the only one to make that same decision and try to save their team.

[BroncoFanNC]

I didn't know about "the e-mail" ... I've been out today.

I still agree with the opinion that this and football should be separate.

I'm from the area, so I've had 28 years of Joe Paterno and Penn State. I don't want JoePa's career be erased because he made the wrong decision trying to protect his organization. I think it's pretty obvious he didn't agree with it. Maybe at that time Sandusky had promised him the behavior was over and he thought they could sweep it under the rug and not create what is happening now. Not the right decision but many in his position might make the same to avoid the firestorm they're going through. Hell, it killed the man.

I just feel really bad about the whole thing.

My family also grew up hating West Virginia... >.>

Wow.

Bob was at a party, he was stupid and did some coke. We swept that under the rug.

Jim had to much to drink, and beat some guy up in the street. We swept that under the rug.

Ken got an F in math. We swept that under the rug.

Jerry raped 10 children. We swept that under the rug.

I don't see how you can justify that by any stretch of the imagination.....

[BroncoFanNC]

You're right, his players actually played the game the right way & didn't cheat. What he did was morally wrong, but that didn't effect their performance on the field. You want the statue gone, fine. The rest of the punishments I have no problem with, but why punish the players who went out and won the games? They didn't do anything

The players went through the games and experienced the wins first hand. They can't take away the memories.

I think it was more about taking Joes name out of the record book, and telling others that if you decide to put football, or your image, over human decency, others won't just look the other way.

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

No, the sanctions were not the right call.

I think the sanctions are far too lenient.

The university's football program should be stripped completely. This "Bowl Ban" doesn't do enough. They still get to keep their football program. They still get to attract more people and conveniently enough the Library (where students are encouraged to be quiet during study time) is named after a person who kept quiet!

I thought about it some more and now I completely agree with this. The punishments seem like a slap on the wrist compared to the things these children went through with this sicko.

[Charlie Brown]

Howzabout this to sum up my feelings;

Agreed

10 Char

[HUMCALC]

There's absolutely no similarity between Spygate/Bountygate and what Paterno did.

You're right, his players actually played the game the right way & didn't cheat. What he did was morally wrong, but that didn't effect their performance on the field. You want the statue gone, fine. The rest of the punishments I have no problem with, but why punish the players who went out and won the games? They didn't do anything

[theMileHighGuy]

I didn't know about "the e-mail" ... I've been out today.

I still agree with the opinion that this and football should be separate.

I'm from the area, so I've had 28 years of Joe Paterno and Penn State. I don't want JoePa's career be erased because he made the wrong decision trying to protect his organization. I think it's pretty obvious he didn't agree with it. Maybe at that time Sandusky had promised him the behavior was over and he thought they could sweep it under the rug and not create what is happening now. Not the right decision but many in his position might make the same to avoid the firestorm they're going through. Hell, it killed the man.

I just feel really bad about the whole thing.

My family also grew up hating West Virginia... >.>

[ebsoria]

Howzabout this to sum up my feelings;

[ebsoria]

No, the sanctions were not the right call.

I think the sanctions are far too lenient.

The university's football program should be stripped completely. This "Bowl Ban" doesn't do enough. They still get to keep their football program. They still get to attract more people and conveniently enough the Library (where students are encouraged to be quiet during study time) is named after a person who kept quiet!

Oh, wow! There is some poetic harmony there, isn't there?

[Charlie Brown]

No, the sanctions were not the right call.

I think the sanctions are far too lenient.

The university's football program should be stripped completely. This "Bowl Ban" doesn't do enough. They still get to keep their football program. They still get to attract more people and conveniently enough the Library (where students are encouraged to be quiet during study time) is named after a person who kept quiet!

[ebsoria]

I don't care about Joe Pa but I think it's stupid to get rid of wins. The games were won. They didn't cheat.

Taking away wins doesn't really do anything.

I agree that taking away his wins does nothing. However.. had he stood up and action was taken when it was brought to his attention would those wins have amounted to what they were before they were stripped?

Who knows? It's one of those "what if?" situations.

Either way.. as a Survivor I am GLAD his legacy is now tainted. He did have a chance to save those children and he looked away.

[theMileHighGuy]

There is no proof Paterno knew what was going on other than "oh I'm angry so he must have". The only reason they docked wins was so Bowden could be number one. Bowden sits and says "I can't celebrate passing Joe" while he has a smirk on his face.

Penalties obviously too harsh.