I don't care about Joe Pa but I think it's stupid to get rid of wins. The games were won. They didn't cheat.
Taking away wins doesn't really do anything.
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If it was your kid that fell victim to this guy would you care about Joe Pa's legacy? He basically had the chance to be a hero to these kids and he failed in the worst way. Not only did he not fight for them he continued to enable the guy. Of all the bare minimums they could have done they chose to do nothing.
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Originally posted by Axemaster View PostI voted yes. BUT!!! The NCAA should give that 60 Million to the VICTIMS, not for their own allready overgreedy azzez! Hopefully that's what they're doing, but I doubt it, know their greed like we do.
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Originally posted by HUMCALC View PostThe only disagreement I have is vacating the Wins. Let's see JoePa busts his butt coaching & his personal life costs him wins? NE & NO cheat ON THE FIELD & THEY ONLY LOSE PICKS! How is this justified?
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I voted yes. BUT!!! The NCAA should give that 60 Million to the VICTIMS, not for their own allready overgreedy azzez! Hopefully that's what they're doing, but I doubt it, know their greed like we do.
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Originally posted by HUMCALC View PostThe only disagreement I have is vacating the Wins. Let's see JoePa busts his butt coaching & his personal life costs him wins? NE & NO cheat ON THE FIELD & THEY ONLY LOSE PICKS! How is this justified?
And a professional decision was made to shield the program. Therefore his professional achievements are impacted.
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I think it's fair. They should be thanking the NCAA for not giving them the death penalty like SMU got.
And imo this is far worse than what SMU did because of the simple fact that what SMU did still goes around in the NCAA today.
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i have a hard time with this because of just how awful it was.
but on the otherside of things the NCAA really shouldnt get involved with something that isnt specifically football related. Sandusky is going to jail forever and Joe Pa is dead, whoever else was involved should be prosecuted to the fullest extent
but this kinda falls out of NCAA jurisdiction to basically kill this program.
if someone kills somebody you dont go after the company they worked for
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Originally posted by HUMCALC View PostThe only disagreement I have is vacating the Wins. Let's see JoePa busts his butt coaching & his personal life costs him wins? NE & NO cheat ON THE FIELD & THEY ONLY LOSE PICKS! How is this justified?
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The only disagreement I have is vacating the Wins. Let's see JoePa busts his butt coaching & his personal life costs him wins? NE & NO cheat ON THE FIELD & THEY ONLY LOSE PICKS! How is this justified?
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Originally posted by 350legend View PostI agree with everything but one, For the Players themselves to pay for so,something that was totally out of there hands, i dont know about that
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Originally posted by ebsoria View PostThere should be a pencil mark to the right of your poll question that'll let you edit. Problem is.. vote count. You'll have to put your three options in the blank fields and leave the original two blank with no votes. Did that make sense?
If ya need help.. holla.
We'll just keep it as is...
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I agree with everything but one, For the Players themselves to pay for so,something that was totally out of there hands, i dont know about that
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I would've shut down the entire program for 1 year for each victim, but I wouldn't have taken away their wins.
The statue can come down but placed in a more private locale.
Upon re-opening their program, I would relegate them to Division II.
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The fact that they let the players walk they if choose and play immediately somwehere else makes the punishment just right for me. Something had to happen, but the current players should not have been punished.
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