SEC is overhyped.

[DenverBlood]

I'm not going to say overrated because I still think it's the best conference.

However I'm going to eat a little crow and say we are an extremely overhyped conference this year.

The bowl record still indicates up with the best. But the gap is far from what it used to be.

Oklahoma is not only proving it right now but shocking me big time.

I thought Bama would win by 30. And their d looks like the worst it has ever looked in the Saban era.

Yesterday the SEC went 2-1 against the Big 10 but the biggest point differential was 10 points.

So any that I have annoyed feel free to flame me a little.

Even if Bama comes back in this game and even if Auburn keeps the national title streak going I think we have to admit this SEC dominance was overhyped this year.

[ELWAY421]

I'm not gonna flame you bro, I'm just as surprised as you are but I did say yesterday, perhaps the SEC isn't that superior. Still a half of football left. Ohio St tomorrow night. We need to rebound from the Michigan St loss.

[the0rangecrush]

The question is whether I should get sucked into this or not. However, you can be the best and still be overrated.

[ELWAY421]

The rest of the country is closing the gap, it looks that way to me just from watching the bowl games.

[DenverBlood]

The question is whether I should get sucked into this or not. However, you can be the best and still be overrated.

Again you can't be the best and be overrated.

If you are overrated then you aren't the best. It would mean people rate you the best when you actually aren't.

If you actually think they are the best they aren't overrated.

That's why I said overhyped. It's a more appropriate term. Overhyped meaning the SEC isn't as dominant as everyone makes us out to be and all it takes is a play here or there to change that 5-1 bowl record into 3-3.

Overhyped meaning instead of being so good that we win all games by 25 we only win by 7-10.

Now if you think they aren't the best conference then yes overrated is the proper term. But if you think they are the best then it's not.

[DenverBlood]

The rest of the country is closing the gap, it looks that way to me just from watching the bowl games.

Exactly. That's my fear. But it was bound to happen eventually.

Game is passing Saban by. His do any defense has progressively gotten worse ever since the first national title. Despite the top classes.

They are beginning to struggle with these up tempo offenses that everyone always assumes Bama can handle.

Everyone says Saban hates these up tempo read option offenses because he thinks it puts players at risk of injury. I think that's a cop out excuse. I think it's because it's the one offense he can't figure out how to coach players to stop.

The rest of the conference seems to be getting a lot worse defensively as well.

It all gets forgiven if Auburn pulls it out Monday night though.

[the0rangecrush]

Again you can't be the best and be overrated.

If you are overrated then you aren't the best. It would mean people rate you the best when you actually aren't.

If you actually think they are the best they aren't overrated.

That's why I said overhyped. It's a more appropriate term. Overhyped meaning the SEC isn't as dominant as everyone makes us out to be and all it takes is a play here or there to change that 5-1 bowl record into 3-3.

Overhyped meaning instead of being so good that we win all games by 25 we only win by 7-10.

Now if you think they aren't the best conference then yes overrated is the proper term. But if you think they are the best then it's not.

have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.

The perception of the SEC being head and shoulders above the rest of the country, is higher than it deserves. Is it the best? Yes, but this idea that the margin between them and everyone else is so vast, means they are overrated.

[DenverBlood]

have a higher opinion of (someone or something) than is deserved.

The perception of the SEC being head and shoulders above the rest of the country, is higher than it deserves. Is it the best? Yes, but this idea that the margin between them and everyone else is so vast, means they are overrated.

I guess we are sort of arguing the same thing.

Webster dictionary says to rate, value, estimate too high.

So to me if you rank the conferences an says SEC is #1 then saying overrated would say they aren't #1.

But I see your point. I was sayin that is overhyped but I'm probably arguing the same thing and calling a rose a daisy.

[the0rangecrush]

I guess we are sort of arguing the same thing.

Webster dictionary says to rate, value, estimate too high.

So to me if you rank the conferences an says SEC is #1 then saying overrated would say they aren't #1.

But I see your point. I was sayin that is overhyped but I'm probably arguing the same thing and calling a rose a daisy.

Yes we are in a debate of semantics, although for me it would be more apt to say the perception of the sec is overrated, instead of the place as best division in college football.

[DenverBlood]

Yes we are in a debate of semantics, although for me it would be more apt to say the perception of the sec is overrated, instead of the place as best division in college football.

That's why I said I understand your point and I'll digress on the terminology argument.

It's simply my preference.

[ELWAY421]

The only way to judge something like this during the season is out of conference play. For instance Alabama's toughest out of conference play game was Virginia Tech, that team isn't any good this year. Ohio State's toughest out of conference opponent was California, they're not any good, so it makes it really hard to judge the what conference is better for me at least. One could also make the argument that these teams (some) have had five weeks to prepare for these bowl games, which could come into play also. Things will be a lot more clear next year with the playoff, because the gap won't be near as long from the first playoff game until the title game. Just my take...

[DenverBlood]

The only way to judge something like this during the season is out of conference play. For instance Alabama's toughest out of conference play game was Virginia Tech, that team isn't any good this year. Ohio State's toughest out of conference opponent was California, they're not any good, so it makes it really hard to judge the what conference is better for me at least. One could also make the argument that these teams (some) have had five weeks to prepare for these bowl games, which could come into play also. Things will be a lot more clear next year with the playoff, because the gap won't be near as long from the first playoff game until the title game. Just my take...

I think Bowl games are more telling than non conference games.

They are still non conference but for the most part you have equivalent teams playing.

For example Bama is SEC #2 against Oklahoma as Big 12 #2.

Only problem is you can't have #2 from SEC play #2 from all 4 other major conferences. Etc...

Also as for the playoff I'm not sure you are right about avoiding the layoff. I think it will be as bad if not worse.

If I'm not mistaken the first national title of playoffs is January 14th of 15.

So first game would be January 7th a day later than this years national title and then the plus one title game the following week.

So ignorantly they still aren't getting it right with these long layoffs.

[ELWAY421]

I think Bowl games are more telling than non conference games.

They are still non conference but for the most part you have equivalent teams playing.

For example Bama is SEC #2 against Oklahoma as Big 12 #2.

Only problem is you can't have #2 from SEC play #2 from all 4 other major conferences. Etc...

Also as for the playoff I'm not sure you are right about avoiding the layoff. I think it will be as bad if not worse.

If I'm not mistaken the first national title of playoffs is January 14th of 15.

So first game would be January 7th a day later than this years national title and then the plus one title game the following week.

So ignorantly they still aren't getting it right with these long layoffs.

I was just talking about the layoff between the first playoff game & then the title game, that should only be a week right? What I meant about the bowl games is the layoff itself. They say coaches like Saban & Meyer are worth 10 to 14 points giving them five weeks to prepare. I would rather just play the games right after the season ended. I know that won't ever happen but I think that would be more fair. The layoff could hurt one team & help another. Clear as mud??

[the0rangecrush]

Time for some McCarron magic

[ELWAY421]

Time for some McCarron magic

The Sooners can't stop the running game at all.