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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by InsaneBlaze23 View Post
    The media doesn't make him out to be anything. They rarely talk about him unless Michigan gets a big win or lose. He led the Niners to a Super Bowl. He turned a team that was one of the worst teams in the league into a Super Bowl contender. He turned Alex Smith into a decent QB. He turned Colin Kaepernick into a decent QB.

    Ever since Harbaugh, the Niners became bad again. Colin productivity went down, so much so he got benched for Blaine freaking Gabbert.

    Sounds to me like Harbaugh deserves any praise he does get.

    Barring a momentum killing power outage, he might be a super bowl running coach. Barring bad calls, an idiot punter, and the existence of Nick Saban, he might have more successful as a college coach.

    I fail to understand how he is overrated when he has accomplished what he has, with what he has had.
    I find it hilarious you keep mentioning Saban when he can’t even reach the playoff for that to matter. He keeps losing games he shouldn’t.

    Sure his one loss is to Notre Dame this year so they are still in the hunt. But they always lose one game they shouldn’t. Granted no one will say they shouldn’t have lost to Ohio st but if they do lose again it’s another year with no playoffs.

    You are not going to sell me that Michigan expectations aren’t playoffs. Trash four years ago or not.

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  • InsaneBlaze23
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    I'm not only referring to his time at Michigan. I'm including his time at Stanford as well as his tenure with the 9ers. He is an above average coach. But he isn't elite like the media makes him out to be.
    The media doesn't make him out to be anything. They rarely talk about him unless Michigan gets a big win or lose. He led the Niners to a Super Bowl. He turned a team that was one of the worst teams in the league into a Super Bowl contender. He turned Alex Smith into a decent QB. He turned Colin Kaepernick into a decent QB.

    Ever since Harbaugh, the Niners became bad again. Colin productivity went down, so much so he got benched for Blaine freaking Gabbert.

    Sounds to me like Harbaugh deserves any praise he does get.

    Barring a momentum killing power outage, he might be a super bowl running coach. Barring bad calls, an idiot punter, and the existence of Nick Saban, he might have more successful as a college coach.

    I fail to understand how he is overrated when he has accomplished what he has, with what he has had.

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by InsaneBlaze23 View Post
    This, plus he was hired to turn the program around and make Michigan competitive.
    Yea he loss to Ohio St. again I mention Michigan has never played State under Harbaugh with a healthy team and as Humcalc said, refs screwed Michigan.

    The whole thought that Harbaugh is overrated is nonsense. If anything he has over achieved by turning a trainwreck into something competitive, which has also had a top rated defense since he became head coach.

    With that up until now, Harbaugh has been experimenting at QB to find the right guy for his offense. Shea is the best he has had to work with.
    I'm not only referring to his time at Michigan. I'm including his time at Stanford as well as his tenure with the 9ers. He is an above average coach. But he isn't elite like the media makes him out to be.

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  • InsaneBlaze23
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Because he hasn’t even beaten Ohio st yet. Which he was hired to do.
    Originally posted by HUMCALC View Post
    The refs cheated him out of a win last year
    This, plus he was hired to turn the program around and make Michigan competitive.
    Yea he loss to Ohio St. again I mention Michigan has never played State under Harbaugh with a healthy team and as Humcalc said, refs screwed Michigan.

    The whole thought that Harbaugh is overrated is nonsense. If anything he has over achieved by turning a trainwreck into something competitive, which has also had a top rated defense since he became head coach.

    With that up until now, Harbaugh has been experimenting at QB to find the right guy for his offense. Shea is the best he has had to work with.

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  • HUMCALC
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Because he hasn’t even beaten Ohio st yet. Which he was hired to do.
    The refs cheated him out of a win last year

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  • DenverBlood
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    Because he hasn’t even beaten Ohio st yet. Which he was hired to do.

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  • InsaneBlaze23
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    In Harbaugh's defense, he's coaching at a time where the sport has Alabama as a juggernaut. Yea Clemson got them. But the point is this is Bama's sport and it's not up for grabs. If anything Harbaugh deserves the praise he gets for turning Michigan around, which has been awful since Lloyd Carr left.

    Not to mention it's an academic school, so they aren't even recruiting the same type of players schools like Bama, Georgia, and LSU recruit. Regardless of how good you may be, you have to be getting amazing grades to get into Michigan, doesn't matter how good you can throw or how good you can tackle.

    Should Harbaugh have at least more Bowl wins and more success in the Big Ten? Yes definitely. But circumstances are just that. When they lost to Michigan St that wasn't on Harbaugh. The punter dropped the ball and instead of just covering it up, he fumbled it again and that led to State winning.

    Then you have injures to their top players.

    Just saying I don't see how Harbaugh is overrated. Guy has done a good job with what he had to clean up and where they are now. And it's not like when he got signed, people in the media claimed he would dethrone Bama.

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  • HUMCALC
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    He has a title. Harbaugh doesnt.
    He's also lost a ton of games that he shouldn't have, or so Oklahoma fans tell me. That includes the Boise State game

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by HUMCALC View Post
    Bob Stoops for me
    He has a title. Harbaugh doesnt.

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  • HUMCALC
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Calipari is far from the most overrated coach in college sports. Basketball is a very different animal than football.

    NCAA basketball titles tend to be won more by talent plus experience than just talent. Just because you recruit a ton of 5 star talent doesn’t mean your freshmen are going to beat a talented group of juniors and seniors from a school like Villanova or Duke or Wisconsin or wherever. Calipari suffers the 1 and done more than anyone in college basketball and has to play with inexperience every single year. The fact he has a title at all like that is amazing. He has to start over every single year.

    You ask me the most overrated coach in college sports is Jim Harbaugh.
    Bob Stoops for me

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    I was talking Coach John Calipari. The "best recruiter" in all of college basketball, who's team is loaded with 5 star freshman every single year, and who has 1 championship to show for it. The most overrated Coach in college sports.
    Calipari is far from the most overrated coach in college sports. Basketball is a very different animal than football.

    NCAA basketball titles tend to be won more by talent plus experience than just talent. Just because you recruit a ton of 5 star talent doesn’t mean your freshmen are going to beat a talented group of juniors and seniors from a school like Villanova or Duke or Wisconsin or wherever. Calipari suffers the 1 and done more than anyone in college basketball and has to play with inexperience every single year. The fact he has a title at all like that is amazing. He has to start over every single year.

    You ask me the most overrated coach in college sports is Jim Harbaugh.

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  • ELWAY421
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    I was talking Coach John Calipari. The "best recruiter" in all of college basketball, who's team is loaded with 5 star freshman every single year, and who has 1 championship to show for it. The most overrated Coach in college sports.
    Oh, I got ya now lol. That's a good comparison. Can't take away from Meyer as a recruiter and he does have the titles but if he were to go I wouldn't cry.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by ELWAY421 View Post
    Who's the coach of Cal?
    I was talking Coach John Calipari. The "best recruiter" in all of college basketball, who's team is loaded with 5 star freshman every single year, and who has 1 championship to show for it. The most overrated Coach in college sports.

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  • ELWAY421
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    Originally posted by Butler By'Note View Post
    He's the Coach Cal of football? Actually he can't be, because at least Urban has turned his recruiting into Championships. Maybe Coach K is a better comparison? Lots of recruits, always talked about as being a great coach, but never really living up to the hype that surrounds him and his recruits?
    Who's the coach of Cal?
    Last edited by ELWAY421; 10-21-2018, 12:20 PM.

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  • Butler By'Note
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    Originally posted by ELWAY421 View Post
    To me if Ohio St doesn't make the playoff they are irrelevant. I've come to the conclusion that Urban Meyer isn't a very good coach. He's a hell of a recruiter but to be honest Jim Tressel was a better coach.

    With all of these great recruiting classes Meyer brings in we should be in the playoff every other year at least. Or at least that's the way I see it.
    He's the Coach Cal of football? Actually he can't be, because at least Urban has turned his recruiting into Championships. Maybe Coach K is a better comparison? Lots of recruits, always talked about as being a great coach, but never really living up to the hype that surrounds him and his recruits?

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