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Is Lincoln Riley proving that Nick Saban doesn’t care what’s best for the player?

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
    I'll admit that I don't avidly study the Alabama offense, but by and large Saban doesn't really ask too much of his QBs. Dating back to McElroy, it was keep it on tempo with good decisions, and have a dominant OL and Running game. They always have a top tier defense, so it works. Guys developed in the system, and they physically outclassed teams, and were more talented. As time has gone on, their OL play has taken a bit of dip, so Bama is relying more on the athletic QB that can do a bit more. However, they still work within the same system, and don't really break their mold for any QB. Riley is willing to maximize their strengths, and has had a nice stream of complimentary players to help. That said, Oklahoma has yet to win a NC. Right or wrong, their defense has held them back.
    Actually with Tua this year they don’t really feature the ground game and with defense anymore.

    They are completely pass first now and I believe their backs have only hit 100 yards a couple of times. And they don’t carry 30-40 times a game anymore. It’s not the same Bama offense from the prior decade.

    Every qb prior to Tua though I completely agree with your assessment. Which includes Hurts.

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  • DenverBlood
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    Originally posted by Saddletramp View Post
    Except yesterday apparently.....
    He threw for 375 and ran for another hundy. Not going to blame him for the defense allowing 48 points.

    They did go through a rough stretch in the third where he struggled and the offense stalled. But overall he still had a killer day.

    Also not his fault the return man fumbled a kickoff.

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  • the0rangecrush
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    I'll admit that I don't avidly study the Alabama offense, but by and large Saban doesn't really ask too much of his QBs. Dating back to McElroy, it was keep it on tempo with good decisions, and have a dominant OL and Running game. They always have a top tier defense, so it works. Guys developed in the system, and they physically outclassed teams, and were more talented. As time has gone on, their OL play has taken a bit of dip, so Bama is relying more on the athletic QB that can do a bit more. However, they still work within the same system, and don't really break their mold for any QB. Riley is willing to maximize their strengths, and has had a nice stream of complimentary players to help. That said, Oklahoma has yet to win a NC. Right or wrong, their defense has held them back.

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  • Saddletramp
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    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Accuracy wasn’t his problem at Alabama. Reading the defense and decision making was his problem at Alabama. Fans got annoyed with him always holding the ball too long and not seeing open guys.

    In the Big 12 he doesn’t have to read defenses because Oklahoma’s wrs are wide open every play against Big 12 defenses.
    Except yesterday apparently.....

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  • DenverBlood
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    Accuracy wasn’t his problem at Alabama. Reading the defense and decision making was his problem at Alabama. Fans got annoyed with him always holding the ball too long and not seeing open guys.

    In the Big 12 he doesn’t have to read defenses because Oklahoma’s wrs are wide open every play against Big 12 defenses.

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  • Saddletramp
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    Originally posted by broncolee View Post
    How is it that Jalen Hurts is all of a sudden the kind of quarterback that people said he isn’t?

    Why were we made to believe he isn’t a passer?

    Would he be in the mix for top draft pick, if he went to Oklahoma from the start?
    I think he would be. Riley did an interview last week and in it he made the statement "if your offenseive scheme isn't QB friendly get a new offensive scheme". Riley builds qbs. If Hurts had started at OU he'd be even better than he is now. Of course because he isn't in the SEC now he won't get the credit he deserves and Sabin will get the credit for making him the QB he is. ( ) which is also the reason people say he isn't the QB he obviously is.
    Last edited by Saddletramp; 10-22-2019, 03:46 AM.

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  • Is Lincoln Riley proving that Nick Saban doesn’t care what’s best for the player?

    How is it that Jalen Hurts is all of a sudden the kind of quarterback that people said he isn’t?

    Why were we made to believe he isn’t a passer?

    Would he be in the mix for top draft pick, if he went to Oklahoma from the start?
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