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    This is the Official Mock Draft thread. please submit your mock drafts in this thread thorughout the college and NFL season.





    (Note: I will do a mock draft later...Im not very good at them though. thats why I made a thread for everyone to make one.)
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  • #2
    MUG and OhNo.....I would really like to see a mock draft by you two.







    (this is my 1,000 post)
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    • #3
      I love mock drafts and all, in fact, I can hardly wait for draft season to come around. But mock drafts are difficult enough to predict when you have the draft order, without that, what will you speculate on.

      You could predict every teams individual record I suppose after this one week, then break down a bunch of prospects who are one or two games into the season, but I don't see it adding much to any draft discussions yet. There just wouldn't be any validity.

      The team we predict to get the 3rd pick in the draft could end up with the 30th, and vice versa, yet both teams probably have totally different needs.

      While I love the idea of diving head first into draft activity and speculation and commend you for your zeal regarding the subject, it is not something that will take us very far after one week of the respective college or professional seasons.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by jletourneau
        I love mock drafts and all, in fact, I can hardly wait for draft season to come around. But mock drafts are difficult enough to predict when you have the draft order, without that, what will you speculate on.

        You could predict every teams individual record I suppose after this one week, then break down a bunch of prospects who are one or two games into the season, but I don't see it adding much to any draft discussions yet. There just wouldn't be any validity.

        The team we predict to get the 3rd pick in the draft could end up with the 30th, and vice versa, yet both teams probably have totally different needs.

        While I love the idea of diving head first into draft activity and speculation and commend you for your zeal regarding the subject, it is not something that will take us very far after one week of the respective college or professional seasons.

        I know its early....but I think early mock drafts are interesting. and they will change over the season of course....its not like someone can only submitt one mock draft in this thread....
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        • #5
          Originally posted by TDforTatum26
          MUG and OhNo.....I would really like to see a mock draft by you two.







          (this is my 1,000 post)

          Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

          Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).

          1. Cleveland Browns (3-13)
          2. Tennessee Titans (3-13)
          3. San Francisco 49ers (4-12)
          4. Chicago Bears (4-12)
          5. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
          6. New York Giants (6-10)
          7. Green Bay Packers (6-10)
          8. Houston Texans (7-9)
          9. Washington Redskins (7-9) (Denver's pick)
          10. Oakland Raiders (7-9)
          11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)
          12. Arizona Cadinals (8-8)
          13. Denver Broncos (8-8)
          14. New Orleans Saints (8-8)
          15. Detroit Lions (9-7)
          16. New York Jets (9-7) (Oakland's pick)
          17. Carolina Panthers (9-7)
          18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
          19. Cincinatti Bengals (9-7)
          20. Seattle Seahawks (10-6)
          21. Baltimore Ravens (10-6) - AFC Wildcard
          22. Dallas Cowboys (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
          23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
          24. Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - AFC Wildcard
          25. Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5) - AFC North Champs
          26. Atlanta Falcons (11-5) - NFC South - Champs
          27. Minnesota Vikings (11-5) - NFC North Champs
          28. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4) - AFC West Champs
          29. St. Louis Rams (12-4) - NFC West Champs
          30. New England Patriots (13-3) - AFC East Champs
          31. Philidelphia Eagles (13-3) - NFC East Champs, NFC Champs
          32. Indianapolis Colts (14-2) - AFC SouthChamps, AFCChamps,SuperbowlChamps


          Ok, now lets do a mock draft.

          1. Browns - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) - Virginia
          2. Titans - Mathias Kiwanuka (DE) - Boston College
          3. 49ers - Haloti Ngata (DT) - Oregon
          4. Bears - AJ Hawk (LB) - Ohio State
          5. Dolphins - Omar Jacobs (QB) - Bowling Green
          6. Giants - Rodrique Wright (DT) - Texas
          7. Packers - Ahmad Brooks (LB) - Virginia
          8. Texans - Johnathon Scott (OT) - Texas
          9. Broncos - Mario Williams (DE) - North Carolina State
          10. Raiders - Devon Hester (CB) - Miami
          11. Bills - Mercedes Lewis (TE) - UCLA
          12. Cardinals - Matt Leinart (QB) - USC
          13. Broncos - Eric Winston (OT) - Miami
          14. Saints - Marcus McNeil (OT) - Auburn
          15. Lions - Vince Young (QB) - Texas
          16. Raiders - Darnell Bing (S) - USC
          17. Panthers - Gabe Watson (DT) - Michigan
          18. Chargers - Jason Allen (CB/S) - Tennessee
          19. Bengals - Orion Harris (DT) - Miami
          20. Seahawks - Chad Greenway (LB) - Iowa
          21. Ravens - Reggie Bush (RB) - USC
          22. Cowboys - Babatunde Oshinowo (NT) - Stanford
          23. Buccaneers - Andrew Whitworth (OT) - LSU
          24. Jaguars - Laurence Maroney (RB) - Minnesota
          25. Steelers - Lendale White (RB) - USC
          26. Falcons - Derek Hagan (WR) - Arizona State
          27. Vikings - Greg Eslinger (OC) - Minnesota
          28. Chiefs - Todd Watkins (WR) - BYU
          29. Rams - Nate Salley (S) - Ohio State
          30. Patriots - William Blackmon (CB) - Boston College
          31. Eagles - Martin Nance (WR) - Marshall
          32. Colts - Jeremy Trueblood (OT) - Boston College

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          • #6
            Great work, Mat.

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            • #7
              not bad but no way rams make to nfc championship game
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              Broncs All the Way Baby!

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              • #8
                No way in hell are the Browns only winning 3 games.

                That would tie for the worst ever in franchise history ( minus the 1999 season )and this team is nowhere near that bad.
                The Browns are gone; I'm not a fan of the Impostors

                The real Browns are in Baltimore, see?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan
                  Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

                  Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).
                  Obviously I have some things I would dispute, but props for even trying at this stage in the season. CP comin your way.
                  Last edited by Buff_bronc_fan; 09-17-2005, 02:38 PM. Reason: shortening quoted material

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan
                    Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

                    Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).

                    1. Cleveland Browns (3-13)
                    2. Tennessee Titans (3-13)
                    3. San Francisco 49ers (4-12)
                    4. Chicago Bears (4-12)
                    5. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
                    6. New York Giants (6-10)
                    7. Green Bay Packers (6-10)
                    8. Houston Texans (7-9)
                    9. Washington Redskins (7-9) (Denver's pick)
                    10. Oakland Raiders (7-9)
                    11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)
                    12. Arizona Cadinals (8-8)
                    13. Denver Broncos (8-8)
                    14. New Orleans Saints (8-8)
                    15. Detroit Lions (9-7)
                    16. New York Jets (9-7) (Oakland's pick)
                    17. Carolina Panthers (9-7)
                    18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
                    19. Cincinatti Bengals (9-7)
                    20. Seattle Seahawks (10-6)
                    21. Baltimore Ravens (10-6) - AFC Wildcard
                    22. Dallas Cowboys (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
                    23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
                    24. Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - AFC Wildcard
                    25. Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5) - AFC North Champs
                    26. Atlanta Falcons (11-5) - NFC South - Champs
                    27. Minnesota Vikings (11-5) - NFC North Champs
                    28. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4) - AFC West Champs
                    29. St. Louis Rams (12-4) - NFC West Champs
                    30. New England Patriots (13-3) - AFC East Champs
                    31. Philidelphia Eagles (13-3) - NFC East Champs, NFC Champs
                    32. Indianapolis Colts (14-2) - AFC SouthChamps, AFCChamps,SuperbowlChamps


                    Ok, now lets do a mock draft.

                    1. Browns - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) - Virginia
                    2. Titans - Mathias Kiwanuka (DE) - Boston College
                    3. 49ers - Haloti Ngata (DT) - Oregon
                    4. Bears - AJ Hawk (LB) - Ohio State
                    5. Dolphins - Omar Jacobs (QB) - Bowling Green
                    6. Giants - Rodrique Wright (DT) - Texas
                    7. Packers - Ahmad Brooks (LB) - Virginia
                    8. Texans - Johnathon Scott (OT) - Texas
                    9. Broncos - Mario Williams (DE) - North Carolina State
                    10. Raiders - Devon Hester (CB) - Miami
                    11. Bills - Mercedes Lewis (TE) - UCLA
                    12. Cardinals - Matt Leinart (QB) - USC
                    13. Broncos - Eric Winston (OT) - Miami
                    14. Saints - Marcus McNeil (OT) - Auburn
                    15. Lions - Vince Young (QB) - Texas
                    16. Raiders - Darnell Bing (S) - USC
                    17. Panthers - Gabe Watson (DT) - Michigan
                    18. Chargers - Jason Allen (CB/S) - Tennessee
                    19. Bengals - Orion Harris (DT) - Miami
                    20. Seahawks - Chad Greenway (LB) - Iowa
                    21. Ravens - Reggie Bush (RB) - USC
                    22. Cowboys - Babatunde Oshinowo (NT) - Stanford
                    23. Buccaneers - Andrew Whitworth (OT) - LSU
                    24. Jaguars - Laurence Maroney (RB) - Minnesota
                    25. Steelers - Lendale White (RB) - USC
                    26. Falcons - Derek Hagan (WR) - Arizona State
                    27. Vikings - Greg Eslinger (OC) - Minnesota
                    28. Chiefs - Todd Watkins (WR) - BYU
                    29. Rams - Nate Salley (S) - Ohio State
                    30. Patriots - William Blackmon (CB) - Boston College
                    31. Eagles - Martin Nance (WR) - Marshall
                    32. Colts - Jeremy Trueblood (OT) - Boston College


                    great work .....and im givin u a CP...


                    but where the heck is DeAngelo Williams? he's gonna be the first back taken...
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                    • #12
                      Well

                      Originally posted by Mat'hir Uth Gan
                      Holy smokes, ok, I'll take a random shot in the dark.

                      Well, first things first, lets predict the NFL drafting order (gads!).

                      1. Cleveland Browns (3-13)
                      2. Tennessee Titans (3-13)
                      3. San Francisco 49ers (4-12)
                      4. Chicago Bears (4-12)
                      5. Miami Dolphins (5-11)
                      6. New York Giants (6-10)
                      7. Green Bay Packers (6-10)
                      8. Houston Texans (7-9)
                      9. Washington Redskins (7-9) (Denver's pick)
                      10. Oakland Raiders (7-9)
                      11. Buffalo Bills (7-9)
                      12. Arizona Cadinals (8-8)
                      13. Denver Broncos (8-8)
                      14. New Orleans Saints (8-8)
                      15. Detroit Lions (9-7)
                      16. New York Jets (9-7) (Oakland's pick)
                      17. Carolina Panthers (9-7)
                      18. San Diego Chargers (9-7)
                      19. Cincinatti Bengals (9-7)
                      20. Seattle Seahawks (10-6)
                      21. Baltimore Ravens (10-6) - AFC Wildcard
                      22. Dallas Cowboys (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
                      23. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (10-6) - NFC Wildcard
                      24. Jacksonville Jaguars (11-5) - AFC Wildcard
                      25. Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5) - AFC North Champs
                      26. Atlanta Falcons (11-5) - NFC South - Champs
                      27. Minnesota Vikings (11-5) - NFC North Champs
                      28. Kansas City Chiefs (12-4) - AFC West Champs
                      29. St. Louis Rams (12-4) - NFC West Champs
                      30. New England Patriots (13-3) - AFC East Champs
                      31. Philidelphia Eagles (13-3) - NFC East Champs, NFC Champs
                      32. Indianapolis Colts (14-2) - AFC SouthChamps, AFCChamps,SuperbowlChamps


                      Ok, now lets do a mock draft.

                      1. Browns - D'Brickashaw Ferguson (OT) - Virginia
                      2. Titans - Mathias Kiwanuka (DE) - Boston College
                      3. 49ers - Haloti Ngata (DT) - Oregon
                      4. Bears - AJ Hawk (LB) - Ohio State
                      5. Dolphins - Omar Jacobs (QB) - Bowling Green
                      6. Giants - Rodrique Wright (DT) - Texas
                      7. Packers - Ahmad Brooks (LB) - Virginia
                      8. Texans - Johnathon Scott (OT) - Texas
                      9. Broncos - Mario Williams (DE) - North Carolina State
                      10. Raiders - Devon Hester (CB) - Miami
                      11. Bills - Mercedes Lewis (TE) - UCLA
                      12. Cardinals - Matt Leinart (QB) - USC
                      13. Broncos - Eric Winston (OT) - Miami
                      14. Saints - Marcus McNeil (OT) - Auburn
                      15. Lions - Vince Young (QB) - Texas
                      16. Raiders - Darnell Bing (S) - USC
                      17. Panthers - Gabe Watson (DT) - Michigan
                      18. Chargers - Jason Allen (CB/S) - Tennessee
                      19. Bengals - Orion Harris (DT) - Miami
                      20. Seahawks - Chad Greenway (LB) - Iowa
                      21. Ravens - Reggie Bush (RB) - USC
                      22. Cowboys - Babatunde Oshinowo (NT) - Stanford
                      23. Buccaneers - Andrew Whitworth (OT) - LSU
                      24. Jaguars - Laurence Maroney (RB) - Minnesota
                      25. Steelers - Lendale White (RB) - USC
                      26. Falcons - Derek Hagan (WR) - Arizona State
                      27. Vikings - Greg Eslinger (OC) - Minnesota
                      28. Chiefs - Todd Watkins (WR) - BYU
                      29. Rams - Nate Salley (S) - Ohio State
                      30. Patriots - William Blackmon (CB) - Boston College
                      31. Eagles - Martin Nance (WR) - Marshall
                      32. Colts - Jeremy Trueblood (OT) - Boston College

                      Not bad for a shot in the dark.....we'll have to keep this around and see how many actually become first rounders....

                      The only thing glaring to me is that I think it's relatively certain Matt Leinhart and Reggie Bush will likely go 1-2 in the Draft (barring major injury, off course), then again, who knows...


                      BTW, is the Olsen-kid QB from UCLA on anyone's radar yet?

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                      • #13
                        Originally posted by Glacier
                        To be honest with you Mat'hir, Kiwanuka will not go in the top three. Sorry, but I just don't see it. Even most draft guru's believe he's being hyped up a little too much. Most think 6-10 is where he'll end up.

                        I won't do a full mock draft, (although I had a while ago) but I will give you a draft of who I think Denver should take with their picks. (Not including compensatory that we will get for sure!)

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                        1a) Mario Williams, DE - NCST

                        1b) Johnathon Scott, OT - Texas

                        2) Greg Eslinger, C - Minnesota

                        3) BPA at Wide Receiver, Running Back or DT

                        4a)
                        Justin London, ILB - UCLA

                        4b) Roman Harper, S - Alabama

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                        The only reach is Greg Eslinger from Minnesota. It's rare that centers go in the first round, but he's perhaps one of the best talents coming out in the past decade or so. I really like this guy, so that's why I had us taking him in round two.

                        As for the third rounder, Manny Lawson, James Wyche and Eric Henderson are possible DE's available.

                        No matter what people say, Orien Harris could slip into the third round. I currently see five defensive tackles ahead of him at this point in the draft.

                        Le Kevin Smith is also worth a look here. Not to mention a few running backs or wide receivers if Bell or Watts do absolutely nothing this year.
                        Eric Henderson is this year's Justin Tuck. I expect him to go round two at this point, and relatively early, pass rushers with adequate size are always in high demand. As for Manny Lawson, his listed size is far from accurate if you look at him. He also doesn't play to his "timed speed" if it is indeed around 4.5-ish. He looks to me like a tweener, and likely will go the way of Jonathan Welsh. Wyche is a solid left end prospect with good size and playing strength. I don't think he fits a pass rushing mold, but could be a solid eight sack guy at his peak. This is all from early speculation of course, and does stand to change.

                        As far as middle round picks go, I am currently high on Jay Cutler, QB of Vandy. He looks like a real sleeper and seems to have the necessary package to play in the NFL. I think he's better than Charlie Frye, but fits that mold as clipboard to starter type draft pick. If you get a chance, check this guy out. Southerners, watch for Vandy on Jefferson Pilot...

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                        • #14
                          Originally posted by Glacier
                          These projections are as of right now, if the draft was held today, some players stocks will fall, others will rise, some will stay the same. Just speculating.

                          About Lawson, he has the size to add something to his frame. I'm not sure, but I believe he's at about 6'5 - 250 right now. I think he's a little too tall for a linebacker in a 4-3 scheme, but could be a possible fit for a team who is looking for a pass rusher in the 3-4. (Obviously used as a linebacker) However, I do feel that he CAN and WILL add bulk to his frame. I think he's drafted as a DE and used as a DE in the pro's. When most DE's in college are considered tweeners and make the move to linebacker, it's usually due to lack of ideal height. If this kid could put on some weight, I think he'd do well.

                          But yeah, Eric Henderson is one of my favorite on-the-rise guys as of now. If we pass up Kiwanuka or Mario Williams, (I'm having a hard time believing we'll be able to get them now, if we play well and the 'Skins do) I would love drafting Eric in the second. But as of now, I believe he's a 3rd rounder, but definitely will rise because GM's and teams covet players like that.

                          As for Wyche, I do agree. Projected as a LE, I think he'll go to a team with serious needs at stopping the run. I wouldn't mind him getting drafted here, as I'm still not sold on the Browncos, the age of our lineman other than him and not too sure how Pryce will play the rest of the year.

                          As for Cutler, yeah man. I've seen him a few times and have read up about him. I believe he's the #3 Senior Quarterback elligible for this draft. He'd be #4 if Jacobs came out, behind him, Leinart and McNeal. Personally, I wouldn't doubt the ability for Cutler or a guy like Whitehurst to sneak up into the first and make up for a QB scenario like we saw a few years ago.

                          But yeah, that was my mock for now. I'd be very pleased if it happened, heck if we grabbed one of those players I'd be thrilled.
                          Cutler is a mere blip on the radars of the thngs I've read, but we'll see when my favorite source PFW sends me my copy of their prospect book. These guys are almost always on the money with early projections as far as seniors and rankings go. I do think Cutler will rise, and be a first day guy. I am a Whitehurst fan as well, and beleive he has all the physical tools to be an NFL starter. My OB rankings at the moment are:

                          Leinart
                          Jacobs
                          Whitehurst
                          Cutler
                          McNeal

                          And then it is muddled after that. I put Whitehurst over Cutler because of his physical tools, but would be pleased to have either as a seond or thir round pick at this moment. Should Vince Young and Chris Leak enter the fray with Brad Smith and Darrell Hackney, guys like Cutler could fall a bit further. I don't care for any of the QBs outside my top four at the moment, but that could always change.

                          As for Lawson, I read that he is playing closer to 235-240 at the moment. I think he is more of a 3-4 end in the mold of Ware, but we'll see. Lawson will be a combine guy. If he tests well, and his measurables check out okay, he could skyrocket, if not, than he's a dime a dozen end.

                          I also like several guys in the corner market. Zemaitis and Williams both have the size to compete in the AFC West, as does Jason Allen. all three could also try safety, as Williams has done before. Griffin and Huff of Texas are also bigger prospects with safety experience. Even though we took three last season, you can never be without quality cover men. If we're picking late in the first, perhaps one of the Texas guys would be a good choice, and move them to safety.

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