Fight on Trojans!!!

[DrunkPanda]

..........

yeah...... he's a CSU fan, don't listen to him

[thesaint]

Your quotes mean nothing without links.

Do they mean anything now?

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2425136

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2426429

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/columns/story?columnist=maisel_ivan&id=2420323

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=bayless/060425

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=2429471

[Astrass]

They CAN and they ARE.

From ESPN...

The Pacific-10 Conference and NCAA are investigating. Should Bush be ruled ineligible, forfeitures are a possibility. And should it be determined he was ineligible in 2004, the national championship USC won that year could be impacted.

Also, redshirt freshman Mark Sanchez, a possible successor to 2004 Heisman Trophy-winning quarterback Matt Leinart, was arrested for investigation of sexually assaulting a female student. He was released on $200,000 bail.

Finally, questions arose over the weekend concerning the living arrangement of All-American wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett, who will be a junior in the fall. USC officials are investigating whether an upscale apartment Jarrett shared with Leinart violated NCAA rules.

The school has notified the Pac-10 of its investigation, the Los Angeles Times reported Tuesday.

Your quotes mean nothing without links.

[Straz1999]

Well there are a lot of teams in the 20's 30's and 40's that went undefeated and were not given the proper recognition. I know in 37 OU went undefeated and they gave the title to TCU. Also in 1949 OU went undefeated and shut LSU out in the Sugar Bowl and they still gave the title to Notre Dame, leaving OU #2. I think there are many schools that "claim" titles that werent actually given them. If you ask michigan fans how many titles they have won, a lot of them will say 11 when the AP only recognizes 2.

[Calif. Bronco]

ESPN College Football Encyclopedia: USC CONSENSUS national titles: 7.

Oklahoma: 7.

As I said, your numbers are inflated. Officially, these are the number of titles. I didn't have the numbers off the type of my head, but this wasn't the first time I have heard these false numbers presented. Check a real reference source. How is that for facts? And I didn't call you a name; I called the Trojans one.

Well now at least you are posting facts and I congratulate you for that.

It seems that we will have to have a disagreement as to what constitutes a "National Championship" in a sport which does not truly have one. Throughout history there have been many split national championships and most football fans consider those years to have two (or even more in early history) champions. By your definition, however, you seem to be saying that neither school deserves to be recognized in those years because they were not "consensus" national champs, is that correct? While I certainly would have to disagree with this logic, I do see it as a valid argument.

[deezan777]

1 - I will re-post the link from which I made my point. As you can see, it is most definitely not the USC media guide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I-A_national_football_champions#Most_national_championships

2 - I will now post your original post, which, as even you can see, provides absolutely zero facts:




3 - With regards to Vince Young and the Longhorns, they won the National Title this year. And your point is? They have nothing to do with this thread or the subtext it has taken which is, namely, the Trojan program and their national championships.

4 - I will say it again my young friend, learn how to debate with facts, not name calling.

ESPN College Football Encyclopedia: USC CONSENSUS national titles: 7.

Oklahoma: 7.

As I said, your numbers are inflated. Officially, these are the number of titles. I didn't have the numbers off the type of my head, but this wasn't the first time I have heard these false numbers presented. Check a real reference source. How is that for facts? And I didn't call you a name; I called the Trojans one.

[Nick7]

LOL...when did i quote you son...

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=61928&page=3&pp=15

scroll down to the bottom...does it say anything about me quoting? open your eyes, homie...

Ah, my bad. You did post right after me in response to my statement, though.

[Calif. Bronco]

I did provide facts. Look it up somewhere besides the USC media guide. I bet you can still see Vince Young running circles around the Trojan defense huh? It's on classic all the time if you want a refresher.

1 - I will re-post the link from which I made my point. As you can see, it is most definitely not the USC media guide:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I-A_national_football_champions#Most_national_championships

2 - I will now post your original post, which, as even you can see, provides absolutely zero facts:

USC counts championships that weren't recognized nationally. Those numbers are inflated, all of them. It figures, considering the Trojans self engrandizing nature.

3 - With regards to Vince Young and the Longhorns, they won the National Title this year. And your point is? They have nothing to do with this thread or the subtext it has taken which is, namely, the Trojan program and their national championships.

4 - I will say it again my young friend, learn how to debate with facts, not name calling.

[Spyder]

You quoted me, which is the same thing.

LOL...when did i quote you son...

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=61928&page=3&pp=15

scroll down to the bottom...does it say anything about me quoting? open your eyes, homie...

[Nick7]

did i say you did?

let's see...



nah...i never mentioned your name or said anything against you..

=}

You quoted me, which is the same thing.

[Spyder]

hmm, did I say that?

let's see...

did i say you did?

let's see...

oh well...they're still in the record books...=}

nah...i never mentioned your name or said anything against you..

=}

[Nick7]

oh well...they're still in the record books...=}

hmm, did I say that?

let's see...

Not to say that they didn't count

[deezan777]

Definition of immaturity - People who, when shown facts that disagree with their opinions, resort to name calling.

I did provide facts. Look it up somewhere besides the USC media guide. I bet you can still see Vince Young running circles around the Trojan defense huh? It's on classic all the time if you want a refresher.

[Spyder]

oh well...they're still in the record books...=}

[Nick7]

when people actually cared about football? oh... yeah... they started caring because super Nebraska finally started winning some, huh? yeah...

No, my point is, the majority of your national championships were half a century ago. Not to say that they didn't count, but they had no BCS or anythng making it a lot diffent. (ha h hll? mos of m ks ant okn)