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    Oklahoma must erase its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years, the NCAA said Wednesday.


    OKLAHOMA CITY -- The Oklahoma football program must forfeit its wins from the 2005 season and will lose two scholarships for the 2008-09 and 2009-10 school years.

    The penalties, announced Wednesday by the NCAA, stem from a case involving two players, including the Sooners' starting quarterback, who were kicked off the team for being paid for work they had not performed at a Norman car dealership.

    The Sooners went 8-4 and beat Oregon in the Holiday Bowl to end the 2005 season. Records from that season involving quarterback Rhett Bomar and offensive lineman J.D. Quinn must be vacated, the NCAA said, and coach Bob Stoops' career record will be amended to reflect the forfeitures, dropping it from 86-19 in eight seasons to 78-27.

    Oklahoma also will have two years of probation added to an earlier penalty, extending the Sooners' probation to May 23, 2010. Those sanctions are in addition to those already self-imposed by Oklahoma, which has banned athletes from working at the car dealership until at least the 2008-09 academic year and has moved to prevent the athletes' supervisor at the dealership, Brad McRae, from being involved with the university's athletics program until at least August 2011.

    Oklahoma also will reduce the number of football coaches who are allowed to recruit off campus this fall. The Sooners also dismissed Bomar, Quinn and walk-on Jermaine Hardison from the team.

    "Although this case centered on a few violations involving three student-athletes, the committee finds this case to be significant and serious for several reasons," the NCAA report said, noting the length of time of the violations and the fact that Oklahoma had appeared before the committee in April 2006 regarding violations in its men's basketball program.

    On Aug. 3, the day before the Sooners began preseason practice, Stoops dismissed Bomar and Quinn from the team after the university determined they had been paid for work not performed at Big Red Sports and Imports. That led to a subsequent NCAA investigation.

    The committee found that Oklahoma "demonstrated a failure to monitor" the employment of several athletes, including some football players who worked during the academic year. The NCAA said that failure led to the university not detecting NCAA rules violations.

    During the investigation, the university disputed that allegation, arguing that the NCAA should applaud, not penalize, its efforts to root out violations and noted that NCAA president Myles Brand told one news outlet that the university "acted with integrity in taking swift and decisive action" in the case. Both Bomar and Quinn lost a season of eligibility.

    Bomar has been ordered by the NCAA to pay back more than $7,400 in extra benefits to charity, while Quinn was told to pay back more than $8,100. Both players transferred to Division I-AA schools -- Bomar to Sam Houston State and Quinn to Montana -- where they can resume their careers this season.

    Oklahoma officials also appeared before the Committee on Infractions in April 2006 following an investigation into hundreds of improper recruiting phone calls by former basketball coach Kelvin Sampson's staff.

    Oklahoma escaped major sanctions in that case, as the NCAA Committee on Infractions found the university guilty of a "failure to monitor," a less severe ruling than "lack of institutional control," which had been recommended by the NCAA's enforcement staff.

    The committee moved Oklahoma's self-imposed probation so it would begin in May 2006 and end in May 2008. The NCAA also issued a public reprimand and censure but otherwise accepted the university's self-imposed sanctions, which included reductions in scholarships, recruiting calls and trips and visits to the school by prospective recruits.
    Bwahaha.

    That's gotta hurt.

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    the usc trojans should be given the death penalty while the ncaa is at it
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    • #3
      Originally posted by jcdavey
      the usc trojans should be given the death penalty while the ncaa is at it
      Agreed.

      Mwahahahahahahahahaha :devil:

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      • #4
        Well it looks like were gonna get punished. Thats fine, but USC better get dealt the same card as well. I don't think anything will be done to them due to the fact that Troy Smith got slapped on the wrist and Ohio St had no penalties from that or the Clarett situation.


        Good job Myles Brand and the NCAA, you made yourself look terrible today.



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        • #5
          You guys are all off subject...




          Because I am a USC fan

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          • #6
            We have all known the sooners are cheaters. Well before any of this happened.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jcdavey
              the usc trojans should be given the death penalty while the ncaa is at it
              the ncaa is completely crazy. it's like they spin a wheel to see what the punishment will be, it doesn't matter what the infraction is.
              cu got a penalty that was almost as bad just for charging walk on athletes a little bit less for meals, something that wouldn't even be a penalty when the rule changes this august. usc might get even MORE scholarships available as a reward, if they get busted for recruiting violations. it's really unpredictable but it seems like the ncaa loves to bully cu around for no reason

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              • #8
                Originally posted by jhns
                We have all known the sooners are cheaters. Well before any of this happened.

                I don't know who your team is, but I'll bet they're cheating too.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by stnzed
                  I don't know who your team is, but I'll bet they're cheating too.

                  Nebraska Cornsuckers

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by D3N7ER 8r0I\I<
                    Nebraska Cornsuckers

                    Them too!

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                    • #11
                      This is ridiculous. The players who committed the penalties were kicked off the team. What more can the coaches do? The coaches cannot monitor every single player on the entire football team. When the coaches found out what the players were doing, they took action. They gave penalties to their own team and kicked the players off.

                      If the ncaa gave ou these penalties, then usc shouldn't even be allowed to play next season.

                      Also, Bob Stoops record will not go from 86-19 to 78-27. The 8 games won't count as losses; they'll just be taken out of the record books completely. So his record will go to 78-19.
                      Last edited by Broncos72690; 07-11-2007, 09:52 PM.


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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Broncos72690
                        This is ridiculous. The players who committed the penalties were kicked off the team. What more can the coaches do? The coaches cannot monitor every single player on the entire football team. When the coaches found out what the players were doing, they took action. They gave penalties to their own team and kicked the players off.

                        If the ncaa gave ou these penalties, then usc shouldn't even be allowed to play next season.

                        Also, Bob Stoops record will not go from 86-19 to 78-27. The 8 games won't count as losses; they'll just be taken out of the record books completely. So his record will go to 78-19.

                        While i am NO sooners fan - those players havent done anything other players on every NCAA team havent - punish one, punish all or punish none

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Broncos72690
                          This is ridiculous. The players who committed the penalties were kicked off the team. What more can the coaches do?

                          I think the fault lies entirely on the NCAA's allocation of setting the punishments, and it's absolutely ridiculous that the players/coaches face no such thing.

                          Oklahoma's basketball coach, Kelvin Sampson, commits recruiting violations in the form of either too many phone calls, or visits, or whatever the infraction was. OKlahoma faces penalties via those violations, and the coach leaves and becomes head coach at Indiana.

                          Kids accept money from whomever, losse their scholarship and continue their football career with no more of a penalty then having to step down a level, if that is even a penalty at all.

                          At what point are the kids/coaches going to be held accountable for their actions and violations they are committing against the NCAA along with the school?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DrunkPanda
                            it's really unpredictable but it seems like the ncaa loves to bully cu around for no reason
                            Yep, cause CU is an easy target to bully around.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by jhns
                              We have all known the sooners are cheaters. Well before any of this happened.


                              Get real, dude......Your program ain't THAT clean........



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