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    Anderson did look better, after one game Frye gets teh boot and the Quinn era can not get here fast enough for the Browns.

    http://http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl...ory?id=3014233
    Just one game into the season, the Cleveland Browns will make a change at quarterback, as the team on Tuesday afternoon dealt third-year veteran Charlie Frye, who started Sunday's regular-season opener but was benched early in the game, to the Seattle Seahawks.



    Frye
    It is believed that the Browns, who spent much of Monday seeking a trade partner for Frye, received a draft choice in return.


    There is no word yet on who will start for Cleveland in next Sunday's home game against the Cincinnati Bengals. The departure of Frye could pave the way for the Browns to turn the starting job over to first-round draft pick Brady Quinn of Notre Dame, but general manager Phil Savage on Monday cautioned that it might be too early for the former Notre Dame star to be elevated to that status.



    Savage cited the 1999 season when, after a blowout loss to Pittsburgh, the Browns benched starting veteran Ty Detmer and moved first-round pick Tim Couch, the top overall selection in the draft that year, into the lineup. Cleveland finished 2-14 that season, and Couch, clearly not ready yet to start, struggled throughout the year.



    There had been rumors following Sunday's lopsided loss to the Steelers that Frye might be traded or released. Frye completed only four of 10 passes for 34 yards and an interception in the game -- a QB rating of 10.0 -- and was replaced by Derek Anderson at 6;34 of the second quarter. Anderson did not fare much better, going 13-of-28 for 184 yards.



    Those rumors gained some steam Monday when journeyman quarterback Ken Dorsey, who had been a mentor to Quinn in training camp, arrived at the Browns' complex. The team is expected to re-sign Dorsey, a four-year veteran, on Tuesday afternoon.



    Frye, 26, was a third-round choice in the 2005 draft, and the former Akron star moved into the starting lineup in the final month of his rookie campaign. He started the first 13 games in 2006, then missed the final three outings of the year with a wrist injury.



    In camp this summer, Frye competed with Anderson for the top job on the depth chart, and was named the starter the week before the opener. But the loss to Pittsburgh was disastrous and the Browns decided to make a quick change.



    In his three-year career, Frye has completed 354 of 568 passes for 3,490 yards, with 14 touchdown passes and 24 interceptions, for an efficiency rating of 70.2. He has started in 19 of his 21 appearances.



    With the Seahawks, Frye will be the No. 3 quarterback on the depth chart, behind starter Matt Hasselbeck and primary backup Seneca Wallace, who recently signed a contract extension. The Seahawks have been seeking another veteran quarterback since releasing David Greene in the final cutdown to the 53-player roster.


    Len Pasquarelli is a senior NFL writer for ESPN.com.
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    wow... thats pretty amazing considering Frye was the best of the two disappointments (Frye and Anderson). So now what? They go with Anderson, or just start the Quinn era?

    I wonder if Charlie Brown changes his name now....
    Last edited by Ravage!!!; 09-11-2007, 11:26 AM.

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    • #3
      Trading one of their qb's after week 1???? lol......The poor Cleveland Browns.....

      I think they may want to look at trading some...or maybe all of their coaching staff next....
      My 3 favorite teams:
      1.The Denver Broncos
      2.The Ohio State Buckeyes
      3.Any team who plays Michigan

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      • #4
        Originally posted by broncophan
        Trading one of their qb's after week 1???? lol......The poor Cleveland Browns.....

        I think they may want to look at trading some...or maybe all of their coaching staff next....
        yeah.. I brought this up last month in this thread when there was speculation that their current coach wouldn't even make it through the entire season (Mark Clayton suggested he wouldn't on NFL Live on ESPN radio)

        here's the thread

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Ravage!!!
          yeah.. I brought this up last month in this thread when there was speculation that their current coach wouldn't even make it through the entire season (Mark Clayton suggested he wouldn't on NFL Live on ESPN radio)

          here's the thread

          http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showthread.php?t=100132

          It is kind of sad....but imo the browns organization is a complete joke....I mean they consistantly win 4 or 5 games, it seems every year, and in many games they lose, they are not competitive at all.

          And now 1 game into the season, they trade their starting qb??? Honestly, I have never heard of such a thing............What in the hell did they do during training camp, and during the preseason games????.....and now, all of a sudden they make these changes....and then to make things even better....they sign Dorsey again....whom they just cut 2 or 3 weeks ago...lol

          Would not surprise me if they would bring Marty back......nothing the browns would do would surprise me...

          Just glad the broncos organization has their act together year after year, for the most part...
          My 3 favorite teams:
          1.The Denver Broncos
          2.The Ohio State Buckeyes
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          • #6
            Originally posted by broncophan
            It is kind of sad....but imo the browns organization is a complete joke....I mean they consistantly win 4 or 5 games, it seems every year, and in many games they lose, they are not competitive at all.

            And now 1 game into the season, they trade their starting qb??? Honestly, I have never heard of such a thing............What in the hell did they do during training camp, and during the preseason games????.....and now, all of a sudden they make these changes....and then to make things even better....they sign Dorsey again....whom they just cut 2 or 3 weeks ago...lol

            Would not surprise me if they would bring Marty back......nothing the browns would do would surprise me...

            Just glad the broncos organization has their act together year after year, for the most part...
            yeah.. they are really in disarray right now. I can't imagine this message board if these actions would have transpired in Denver. They are going to try and protect Quinn from having to start this early and play against their tough few weeks of the season. They are going to try and weather the storm the best they can, until week 5 and then start Quinn then (thats my guess anyway). Right now the Browns are working again for that 1st overall pick in the 2008 draft, and I think they are the front runners. I can't think of a team in the NFL that is even CLOSE to being as bad as the Browns are, and I think its a pretty safe bet to say "the Browns are on the clock."

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            • #7
              Originally posted by broncophan
              It is kind of sad....but imo the browns organization is a complete joke....I mean they consistantly win 4 or 5 games, it seems every year, and in many games they lose, they are not competitive at all.

              And now 1 game into the season, they trade their starting qb??? Honestly, I have never heard of such a thing............What in the hell did they do during training camp, and during the preseason games????.....and now, all of a sudden they make these changes....and then to make things even better....they sign Dorsey again....whom they just cut 2 or 3 weeks ago...lol

              Would not surprise me if they would bring Marty back......nothing the browns would do would surprise me...

              Just glad the broncos organization has their act together year after year, for the most part...
              Frye was not getting the job done, he was average at best when he was good. The Browns have some talent on their roster, they have to get there o-line together, of course Thomas will definitly bolster them for years to come. Winslow is a reception machine, Edwards has been taking out of the offense due to such bad QB play. They are going to have to find a RB, something they have not had in a while. Anderson is more serviceable then Frye IMO. Dorsey was said to be a great mentor for Quinn and this is a step just to get Quinn out there for a few games at the end of the season. Move Quinn from 2 to 3 on the depth chart.

              I think Marty will be the next head coach in Cleveland for sure. I just don't think Romeo has it in him, he should stick to defense, he has been way to idecisive with the offense and QB position. They have a long way to go.
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              #114(via HOU-Pacman Trade) TE Brad Cottam TEN
              #120 LB Ben Moffit USF
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              • #8
                Originally posted by BroncoAV06
                I think Marty will be the next head coach in Cleveland for sure. I just don't think Romeo has it in him, he should stick to defense, he has been way to idecisive with the offense and QB position. They have a long way to go.
                I think people have asked Marty recently,and his quote was something about "not knowing if he's up to coaching in the NFL again." I don't know. He's been around a long time, and he may just find the time is right for him to retire.

                Cowher wouldn't go to the Browns. I could see Cowher going to the Cowboys though. How about someone like Mike Singletary?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Ravage!!!
                  I think people have asked Marty recently,and his quote was something about "not knowing if he's up to coaching in the NFL again." I don't know. He's been around a long time, and he may just find the time is right for him to retire.

                  Cowher wouldn't go to the Browns. I could see Cowher going to the Cowboys though. How about someone like Mike Singletary?
                  Singletary would be great. Have you been watching that 9ers defense. Those LB's are going to be monsters this year. Cowher coached in Cleveland before, so I wouldn't rule it out.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Spice 1
                    Singletary would be great. Have you been watching that 9ers defense. Those LB's are going to be monsters this year. Cowher coached in Cleveland before, so I wouldn't rule it out.
                    I would.. because that was before his success as a head coach. Now, he'll be the most coveted coach available. He can get any job he wanted. I don't see him picking Cleveland over ..well.. ANY of the other jobs he would be offered.

                    Cowher could very easily be offered the Dallas job, the SD job, the Patriots job (I think Belicheck retires after this year)... there would be 31 jobs in the NFL that would be BETTER than the Cleveland job... certainly for someone with Cowher's resume'. Lets hope that Cowher doesn't end up in SD or in KC (where he coached as well).

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ravage!!!
                      yeah.. they are really in disarray right now. I can't imagine this message board if these actions would have transpired in Denver. They are going to try and protect Quinn from having to start this early and play against their tough few weeks of the season. They are going to try and weather the storm the best they can, until week 5 and then start Quinn then (thats my guess anyway). Right now the Browns are working again for that 1st overall pick in the 2008 draft, and I think they are the front runners. I can't think of a team in the NFL that is even CLOSE to being as bad as the Browns are, and I think its a pretty safe bet to say "the Browns are on the clock."
                      Except that they traded this year's first rounder to Dallas...
                      RIP Darrent Williams

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by The_Roses_Thorn
                        Except that they traded this year's first rounder to Dallas...
                        *laughs*. I forgot *chuckles*.. Ok ok...

                        "Dallas from Cleveland" is on the clock (thanks for the correction)

                        *yet another reason Cowher would love this job*

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                        • #13
                          The Browns did themselves some good here in my opnion. I think they should just start Quinn. They're going to lose 6+ games anyways, why not let Quinn take over and let him get the experence he needs. Right now for the Browns, I don't see any reasons to let him sit. It's not like the Leinart and Cutler last year where they had vets to learn from. Quinn has no one.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by kratos_godofwar
                            The Browns did themselves some good here in my opnion. I think they should just start Quinn. They're going to lose 6+ games anyways, why not let Quinn take over and let him get the experence he needs. Right now for the Browns, I don't see any reasons to let him sit. It's not like the Leinart and Cutler last year where they had vets to learn from. Quinn has no one.
                            Well.. I think they have a pretty tough schedule the first four games, and as the GM Phil Savage stated:

                            "Savage cited the 1999 season when, after a blowout loss to Pittsburgh, the Browns benched starting veteran Ty Detmer and moved first-round pick Tim Couch, the top overall selection in the draft that year, into the lineup. Cleveland finished 2-14 that season, and Couch, clearly not ready yet to start, struggled throughout the year."

                            and where is Couch now? I think the Browns are tired of rushing their young QBs into the lineup, getting them killed and their confidence destroyed, and then having to pick another one in a few years. I think they will wish to let him sit through the first brutal 4 games, then move forward into the starting lineup from there.

                            However... the Browns will lose more than just 6+ games.. they will lose more like 12+ games.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Ravage!!!
                              I wonder if Charlie Brown changes his name now....
                              Alright, I didn't want to announce anything or anything. I wanted to leave quietly. But, when I saw this news during my lunch break today. I figured for sure that somebody would have posted something and wanted my imput or whatever. So, I figured I would log on and respond quickly and then that's that.

                              I am not particularly happy with Frye being traded. I liked Frye and still like Frye. He played poorly against the Steelers - but still, that was against the Steelers. Two years ago, the Browns lost 31-0 to the Steelers. Last year, on Christmas the Browns lost 41-0 to the Steelers. Now, game 1 of this season the Browns lost to the Steelers 34-7.

                              I don't know about all of you, but I see progress there. In previous years the Browns laid a real goose egg in those games. This game was close to being another - but Anderson was able to move the ball and score. The offensive line isn't as bad as everyone thinks. I liked Frye, but after that game I must admit that his confidence is shot and that he has was former coach Davis called "happy feet". Frye runs around like a headless chicken in the pocket and is too panicked to do anything. Derek Anderson played FAR better. Anderson isn't a mobile QB yet he displayed amazing pocket presence in the game.

                              I would have liked to have kept Frye as I like him as a player and as a person. I wish him the absolutely best of luck in Seattle. Dorsey was signed as Quinn took a liking to him (Dorsey is familiar with the system as Chud was with Dorsey at Miami) and took him as his tutor.

                              I do not under any circumstance want to see Bill Cowher as the Browns coach. Yea, he was the special teams coach for Marty. But I have no interest whatsoever in that Steeler. He was born 4 miles outside of Pittsburgh. He was the Steeler coach. He has a street named after him in Pittsburgh. You know what? He's a Steeler!! How would you Broncos like to have Art Shell come to your team? Or John Madden - how about Herman Edwards? Schottenheimer is a good coach. But, Crennel I do not believe will be fired. That game in and of itself against Pittsburgh shows progress. The offensive line held very well with Anderson at QB. The defense played very well in the first half before collapsing. How well can any defense play protecting a 20-25 yard field?

                              Now, I am gone. I had no interest whatsoever in making a goodbye speech or anything. But, I figured that this was the right thing to do considering that somebody wrote something directed towards me and I find it rude to not respond.
                              The Browns are gone; I'm not a fan of the Impostors

                              The real Browns are in Baltimore, see?

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