THe best in the nfc

[MoFo_JoRo]

Well I think we will have some dropoff in our offense, but with Shanny it wont be as bad as some people expect. Plus we at least tried to improve it some when we lost sharpe and mac. I mean Didn't the Colts only lose a player in free agency? I remember reading that they didnt actually get anyone. Plus they really dont have much defense to begin with ( did you see the Colt cheif game?) I just cant see them makin it past some of the better defenses this time around, i think they may make the playoffs, but i think either we'll bat them down or someone else will. The afc has quite a few teams that i think are as good or better than the colts. And to argue bout how we lost alot of players, yea we did, but we also lessened the damage some with our free agent pickups, I mean, reciever is our biggest question. With our commitment to the run, we will get 1000+ yards rushin, its jus a matter of how many times well actually have to run to do it. I aint sayin that our system will make the back or that cuz being a realist, i do think somewhere that will end, but not wit how commited shanny is, so i dunno, i think we will at the least make the playoffs.

[Elway4King]

Originally posted by MoFo_JoRo
I dont see the colts makin the superbowl, too many other good teams to beat them, at least it looks like it to me. I mean, the colts seemingly only got weaker on defense...... and Manning, Harrison, and Edge can only carry them so far. For one, if we make the playoffs, and this may sound biased but I dont mean just cuz its the Broncos, I cant see them gettin past us now with a better D. I mean barrin injuries i see us as at the very least playoff contenders, plus i think ravens d could be pretty good this year if they play them, or one of the other good AFC defenses, i mean, if they shut down mannin.......edge wouldnt be able to carry the team through a game, I dont think so anyways.

I hope you're right about Denver but if you're going to use the argument that Indy got worse on D then you have to admit that Denver definately did not improve on O. Losing Eddie, Portis, and Sharpe are major blows and I am not sure yet how Denver will be on O (I'm predicting a dropoff but lets hope I'm wrong). IMO right now the Colts are a better team then Denver.

As far as the Ravens go, they do have a great D but that offense will struggle mightily if Jamal Lewis doesn't play as Billick is threatening. And even if he does play Boller is not ready for a deep playoff run.

The Patriots seem like the pick in the AFC but no team has won back to back since the Broncos and no team that was the Vegas favorite heading into the season has won the Super Bowl since 1998 so toss the Pats. Broncos D should be better but their O should not be as good. Ravens will struggle offensively. Titans are a solid team with few weaknesses but besides McNair they don't have any real strong points. The Chiefs, well, they may have changed their D coordinator but you can't polish a turd. You're right, the Colts D will probably still struggle but that O is good enough to carry the team and barring injuries I think they are the best in the AFC.

Cody J. Esquire

[MoFo_JoRo]

I dont see the colts makin the superbowl, too many other good teams to beat them, at least it looks like it to me. I mean, the colts seemingly only got weaker on defense...... and Manning, Harrison, and Edge can only carry them so far. For one, if we make the playoffs, and this may sound biased but I dont mean just cuz its the Broncos, I cant see them gettin past us now with a better D. I mean barrin injuries i see us as at the very least playoff contenders, plus i think ravens d could be pretty good this year if they play them, or one of the other good AFC defenses, i mean, if they shut down mannin.......edge wouldnt be able to carry the team through a game, I dont think so anyways.

[Booher]

Originally posted by Elway4King
I'll take it from here. Because they know how to win home games and now all they need to do is step up and win a couple more road games. They have great balance on offense and one of the best offensive minds in football coaching it. Hasselbach has finally emerged as a legit QB and Alexander is as solid an RB as there is in the NFL. They have a great young secondary led by Hamlin and Trufant and the addition of the physical Bobby Taylor softens the loss of Springs. The addition of Grant Wistrom will bolster their front four (especially against the run where Wistrom excels).

Just remember how they were bumped out of the playoffs a year ago. An interception return in OT AT GREEN BAY! They were close last year and I think they have gotten better. Chalk up two road wins already at Arizona and San Francisco. If they can go 8-0 at home like they did last year then that would be 10-6 assuming they can't win another road game (which I think they will) and they are in the playoffs.

The bottom line is, if they can win a few more road games they will win the NFC West and roll into the playoffs.

My prediction:

Colts over the Seahawks in the SB

Cody J. Esquire

welp there ya go

[Elway4King]

Originally posted by MoFo_JoRo
any reason why?

I'll take it from here. Because they know how to win home games and now all they need to do is step up and win a couple more road games. They have great balance on offense and one of the best offensive minds in football coaching it. Hasselbach has finally emerged as a legit QB and Alexander is as solid an RB as there is in the NFL. They have a great young secondary led by Hamlin and Trufant and the addition of the physical Bobby Taylor softens the loss of Springs. The addition of Grant Wistrom will bolster their front four (especially against the run where Wistrom excels).

Just remember how they were bumped out of the playoffs a year ago. An interception return in OT AT GREEN BAY! They were close last year and I think they have gotten better. Chalk up two road wins already at Arizona and San Francisco. If they can go 8-0 at home like they did last year then that would be 10-6 assuming they can't win another road game (which I think they will) and they are in the playoffs.

The bottom line is, if they can win a few more road games they will win the NFC West and roll into the playoffs.

My prediction:

Colts over the Seahawks in the SB

Cody J. Esquire

[MoFo_JoRo]

Originally posted by Booher
I say seattle has a legitimate shot

any reason why?

[Booher]

I say seattle has a legitimate shot

[Jrhampton]

Re: Re: Re: Re: THe best in the nfc

Originally posted by Jared
Ah. I posted my statement on the 19th of Julty, so I did not knwo George would sign with them. He can still grind every down, but he is not a homerun threat. The Jones/George combo should definitely be an improvement over Hambrick. Now if they can get an effiecient QB........

I agree about QB, but will also add the owner needs to stay away from the sidelines it sends mixed messages to the team.

[Jared]

Re: Re: Re: THe best in the nfc

Originally posted by Africangod
Julius Jones is going to play rb for the cowboys. They just signed eddie george so he is going to be getting some playing time and tutor julius jones as well.

Ah. I posted my statement on the 19th of Julty, so I did not knwo George would sign with them. He can still grind every down, but he is not a homerun threat. The Jones/George combo should definitely be an improvement over Hambrick. Now if they can get an effiecient QB........

[EagleInLA]

Re: Strength of Schedule

Originally posted by JED Bronco
Over how many years is this thing? 125 wins vs 131 losses?

How much have you done lately would be more acurate don't yah think?


Denvers schedule is definitely tougher than 23rd.

You're misunderstanding how the statistic is computed. It's last years combined record of the teams you play this year, so it couldn't get any more recent. Look at your schedule for this year and write each opponents win/loss record from last year next to their name. Add all there records together and you will come up withe 125 wins and 131 losses. Since it is based upon last years records your schedule will look relatively easy since the Raiders and Chargers both finished 4-12.

That said, it's just a stat and doesn't really mean much, just interesting to see. The fun will start next year when the NFC East and the AFC West finally match up again. Those should be some great games.

[TXBRONC]

Re: Re: Re: THe best in the nfc

Originally posted by Africangod
Julius Jones is going to play rb for the cowboys. They just signed eddie george so he is going to be getting some playing time and tutor julius jones as well.

It's pretty clear you really don't know about Parcells. He likes backs that can grind it out George is the type of big back that Parcells has always coveted. Strange you live in MASS. but you don't know anything about what kind of players Bill likes. Oh I forgetting I'm talking to novice with delusions of granduer.

[Africangod]

Re: Re: THe best in the nfc

Originally posted by Jared
Cowboys will be tough, but who's gonna play RB for them?

Julius Jones is going to play rb for the cowboys. They just signed eddie george so he is going to be getting some playing time and tutor julius jones as well.

[JED Bronco]

Strength of Schedule

Originally posted by EagleInLA
2004 Strength of Schedule Rankings Follow the Link.

Over how many years is this thing? 125 wins vs 131 losses?

How much have you done lately would be more acurate don't yah think?


Denvers schedule is definitely tougher than 23rd.

[Arab Bronco]

Since most the people here will say broncos to afc, and its cool bout that, but i wanted an actual sorta deep convo about this: Who do you think will honestly make the superbowl for nfc? i dont think eagles, cuz i mean, they have one of the toughest schedules, and well, kearse could prolly have injury problems, and i dont see how owens could honestly help them team wise, i mean, as a pure athlete sure, but the team stuff comes into consideration too, an at that hell hurt more than help i think.....but wut you all think?

i believe that owens will help alot more than he will hurt. i dont know why people think he's selfish, just because he wants the ball. if you have a player on your team with the caliber of terrell owens why wouldnt you pass to him all the time, he only wants to win. who else would McNabb pass to anyway, Todd Pinkson? give me a break. Well atleast McNabb could carry his offense to the NFC title match 3 years in a row without a decent reciever, now imagine what he's gonna do with a GO-TO type receiver as Owens.
Eagles make it to the Superbowl, after 4th attempt this year.

[daredevil25]

Love the optimism for the Falcons, but guys we're going into this season a confident, but learning and young team. Our WRs are still mostly unproven, Gibbs albeit one of the best all time has a bad unit to try and make VERY good in a short training camp, the secondary is revamped at CB but its depending on a rookie to be the man and a guy coming off injury to be the RCB, last but not least our LBs are average as a unit, and our defensive line should improve, but mostly filled w/ 30 year olds and if Ellis Johnson retires there goes the depth we potentially have. Johnson and FA Rod Coleman have been the league's most QB sacking DTs the last two seasons (Coleman w/ 11 in 2002, Johnson w/ 8 in 2003) and gives us a consistent pass rush up the middle, if both play this season. Our rookies, especially Day 1 picks, each have a chance to start, but Demorrio Williams, Etric Pruitt and Quincy Wilson will be special teamers and backups far down the depth chart. Lavalais may be in heavy DT rotation, but other than that, I doubt we see much past Hall and Jenkins, maybe Schaub.

I just don't see us as a playoff team unless the Bucs are worse than I give them and the Saints have a complete letdown. The Panthers are OWNED by Michael Vick (they've never beaten him and he's outgained them by himself in those games) but if he's injured for more than 3-4 games that could be the window them or any team in the South needs to get ahead of the Falcons.