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A Dallas police officer who delayed Texans' running back Ryan Moats from visiting his mother-in-law
before she died in a Plano hospital has been reassigned pending an investigation.
Stories like this just need more attention.
BMarsh gets his case thrown out of court a day after his "incident", but the damage is still done. I for one have no reason to believe it wasn't a situation like this where a cop needs to feel respect and be correct. They get to play judge and jury on the scene of an issue..its not right. There should be real consequences.
Unbelieveable...
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Doesn't have anything to do with the Brandon Marshall issue. You are making a prejudiced assumption based on an unrelated issue. We don't know what happened with B Marsh, but to assume it's just corrupt cops is as bad as assuming Brandon Marshall is guilty.
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Doesn't have anything to do with the Brandon Marshall issue. You are making a prejudiced assumption based on an unrelated issue. We don't know what happened with B Marsh, but to assume it's just corrupt cops is as bad as assuming Brandon Marshall is guilty.
But it does illustrate a problem with the league's discipline policy; police should only make arrests under circumstances where there is probable cause to do so; the charges being dropped the next day are one indication that such cause may not have existed (though it still may have). If the League is going to suspend guys just based on arrests (regardless of whether charges stuck), it seems to give the arresting officer too much power over an athlete's career, even in cases where the arrest was totally unjustified.
The League should not suspend a guy unless he actually finds himself in real legal trouble, and being arrested with no eventual charges is NOT real legal trouble.
But it does illustrate a problem with the league's discipline policy; police should only make arrests under circumstances where there is probable cause to do so; the charges being dropped the next day are one indication that such cause may not have existed (though it still may have). If the League is going to suspend guys just based on arrests (regardless of whether charges stuck), it seems to give the arresting officer too much power over an athlete's career, even in cases where the arrest was totally unjustified.
The League should not suspend a guy unless he actually finds himself in real legal trouble, and being arrested with no eventual charges is NOT real legal trouble.
I don't disagree that the league should revise their policy, but that has nothing to do with the cops, and police shouldn't base their decision making on a sport. If a cop has sufficient reason to believe a crime has been committed and they need to bring someone in for questioning or simply need to get someone away from a situation that may become even more volatile than it already is, then they have the power to do so, as given to them by the municipality in which they protect. When a police officer's job is dictated to them by a sports league or entertainment entity, we're in deep trouble. And just because someone is put in cuffs and taken to a police station doesn't immediately mean they are being charged with a crime. A lot of times, cops will handcuff and detain people who are persons of interest in a crime or if there is suspicion of a crime and it's later determined that the situation doesn't warrant an arrest or charges are dropped. Handcuffs and detainment does not = arrest, necessarily.
Again, I agree that the league jumps the gun on their discipline policy, but that doesn't mean the cops are at fault, which is what was implied.
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Charlie Brown has a great point, but I still feel bad for Moats & his family.
The story was sad, and the cop was a jerk, but Moats could have made the situation better by explaining to the cop the situation and asking him to check with the hospital about his grandmother. Just because of the situation doesn't mean that you yell at a cop. I do believe the cop didn't know about the situation with his grandmother and a lot of times people will give cops crazy stories to try and get out of tickets. I don't know all of the details on the story nor have I seen video of the stop with audio (likely one exists if his dash cam was on) but if he was yelling at the cop, that certainly didn't help the situation. Now, after the guards explained about the dying relative in the hospital, he should have gone with him so that he could check for outstanding warrants after the fact. That was where the cop was in the wrong, in my opinion, but of course everyone will automatically assume the cop was racist or corrupt and should be fired, when he was trying to do his job.
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The story was sad, and the cop was a jerk, but Moats could have made the situation better by explaining to the cop the situation and asking him to check with the hospital about his grandmother. Just because of the situation doesn't mean that you yell at a cop. I do believe the cop didn't know about the situation with his grandmother and a lot of times people will give cops crazy stories to try and get out of tickets. I don't know all of the details on the story nor have I seen video of the stop with audio (likely one exists if his dash cam was on) but if he was yelling at the cop, that certainly didn't help the situation. Now, after the guards explained about the dying relative in the hospital, he should have gone with him so that he could check for outstanding warrants after the fact. That was where the cop was in the wrong, in my opinion, but of course everyone will automatically assume the cop was racist or corrupt and should be fired, when he was trying to do his job.
Yea but some cops can just be an a**. Me and my girlfriend and another couple were out at a party and were dancing when we left we put the top down of a convertible, and it was 50 degrees out. We passed a cop and he pulled us over bc he thought it was too cold to be driving with the top down so we must have been doing something illegal. But the only reason we did was bc we were hot adn sweaty from dancing for awhile.
From the written story I don't see that the cop did anything wrong. How many times do you think he's heard similar stories from guys who were just trying to avoid a ticket?
From watching the video, the people got out of the car and started arguing with the cop. You NEVER do that. They should have waited in the car until he came to the window then calmly said "My mother is dying, would you please follow us to her room and give me the ticket there so we can see her in time?"
Instead they jumped out and started yelling at him and not listening to his instructions.
And finally, the guy did break the law. He ran a red light. Most might think it was justified, and I tend to agree, but that doesn't change the fact that if he would have stopped and waited 60 seconds for the light he would have made it before his mom died.
He might want to blame the cop and, for no justifiable reason I can see, bring race into the issue. But the fact is, HE is responsible for his actions, and his actions were breaking the law.
From the written story I don't see that the cop did anything wrong. How many times do you think he's heard similar stories from guys who were just trying to avoid a ticket?
From watching the video, the people got out of the car and started arguing with the cop. You NEVER do that. They should have waited in the car until he came to the window then calmly said "My mother is dying, would you please follow us to her room and give me the ticket there so we can see her in time?"
Instead they jumped out and started yelling at him and not listening to his instructions.
And finally, the guy did break the law. He ran a red light. Most might think it was justified, and I tend to agree, but that doesn't change the fact that if he would have stopped and waited 60 seconds for the light he would have made it before his mom died.
He might want to blame the cop and, for no justifiable reason I can see, bring race into the issue. But the fact is, HE is responsible for his actions, and his actions were breaking the law.
Agree 100%. The red light is there for a reason, and even though he didn't see someone coming doesn't mean that something may not have happened once he began to run the light. Also, I didn't know they got out of the car. Big big no no. He probably could've avoided the whole issue by calmly explaining the situation to the officer once he approached the window. When a cop thinks that their safety is possibly in jeopardy, they are going to care little for the plight of someone who may pull a gun on them or go for their weapon. Being a police officer is an extremely dangerous job and most cops understand this and care about their safety first and foremost when it comes to traffic stops.
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Yea but some cops can just be an a**. Me and my girlfriend and another couple were out at a party and were dancing when we left we put the top down of a convertible, and it was 50 degrees out. We passed a cop and he pulled us over bc he thought it was too cold to be driving with the top down so we must have been doing something illegal. But the only reason we did was bc we were hot adn sweaty from dancing for awhile.
In that situation when you weren't doing anything illegal, you can file a complaint on that officer and he'll get a reprimand. They are not supposed to pull someone over unless there is definitely something wrong.
But it does illustrate a problem with the league's discipline policy; police should only make arrests under circumstances where there is probable cause to do so; the charges being dropped the next day are one indication that such cause may not have existed (though it still may have). If the League is going to suspend guys just based on arrests (regardless of whether charges stuck), it seems to give the arresting officer too much power over an athlete's career, even in cases where the arrest was totally unjustified.
The League should not suspend a guy unless he actually finds himself in real legal trouble, and being arrested with no eventual charges is NOT real legal trouble.
Actually, the law is a little different when there is a domestic dispute. An arrest has to be made when their is a domestic dispute. The reason why the charges were dropped was due to his fiance not being willing to press charges. That is standard procedure the way I understand it.
As far as the OP goes I think it is rediculous to assume the police officer was on a power trip, especially after he stated that he witnessed a physical confrontation. IMO he was doing his job.
Ask yourself a couple of questions:
Does Marshall have a history of domestic violence?
Are you aware of any civil complaints against the arresting officers?
No offense, but I think you are making a very prejudiced and biased statement that is not based on fact.
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Actually, the law is a little different when there is a domestic dispute. An arrest has to be made when their is a domestic dispute. The reason why the charges were dropped was due to his fiance not being willing to press charges. That is standard procedure the way I understand it.
As far as the OP goes I think it is rediculous to assume the police officer was on a power trip, especially after he stated that he witnessed a physical confrontation. IMO he was doing his job.
Ask yourself a couple of questions:
Does Marshall have a history of domestic violence?
Are you aware of any civil complaints against the arresting officers?
No offense, but I think you are making a very prejudiced and biased statement that is not based on fact.
I believe the charges where disorderly conduct (which is police discreation imho). And both Brandon and his girlfriend were charged, and then dropped. The point is they were not in violation of the law as the law is written, that is why the judge threw it out. Equally important is the fact that they should not have been arrested an charged. The cop was wrong. No consequences.
Brandon although may not be so lucky.
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