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You don't think Ken Anderson deserves to be called a franchise QB? Jim McMahon? Matt Hasselbeck?
Come on, man!
Jim McMahon was has a ring. Hasselbeck and Anderson both led teams to conference championships. All three had several years of tenure with their teams. And as far as stats go, it's hard to argue with Anderson, at least.
Cool. I'll give you Anderson. Honestly, I never really thought about him, and just kinda skimmed the last post.
If you call McMahon "franchise" then you have to call Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer the same. 1 average year on the team with the best D arguably in history.
Matt Hasselback I left out because...I dunno why. I like the guy. I think he is a good QB. He just doesn't scream franchise to me.
As you can see, many teams haven't even had one, let alone multiple franchise QB's.
Also, I didn't include Eli. Yeah, he won a SB, but I think we can all agree that isn't the exact criteria for being called "franchise".
If you don't consider Eli a franchise QB, how can you call Rivers one? Their winning pct. is roughly the same, but Eli has the ring (I agree a ring isn't the most important criteria, but having one over not having one helps).
Cool. I'll give you Anderson. Honestly, I never really thought about him, and just kinda skimmed the last post.
If you call McMahon "franchise" then you have to call Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer the same. 1 average year on the team with the best D arguably in history.
Matt Hasselback I left out because...I dunno why. I like the guy. I think he is a good QB. He just doesn't scream franchise to me.
I'm really sorry for leaving out Anderson.
I think Hasselback deserves to be considered a franchise QB. He took them to the Superbowl, usually has a winning season, and they really suffer when he gets hurt
I think Hasselback deserves to be considered a franchise QB. He took them to the Superbowl, usually has a winning season, and they really suffer when he gets hurt
I would have agreed with no Eli before this year, but after watching him these
first two games he's kinda won me over.
I was surprised you had Trent Green on there, but as I think about i have to agree.
Matt Ryan, while shouldn't be on the list yet, is very close, already IMO, to being
a franchise QB just for the fact that they are competitors already and he plays
a huge part in that.
Cool. I'll give you Anderson. Honestly, I never really thought about him, and just kinda skimmed the last post.
If you call McMahon "franchise" then you have to call Brad Johnson and Trent Dilfer the same. 1 average year on the team with the best D arguably in history.
Matt Hasselback I left out because...I dunno why. I like the guy. I think he is a good QB. He just doesn't scream franchise to me.
I'm really sorry for leaving out Anderson.
McMahon had intangibles that transcended his stats. He was also clutch as hell. He was a hell of a lot better then Dilfer and Johnson. McMahon at least proved at every level that he could put the team on his back and win a game. You dont need to be a HOFer to be a franchise qb
I'm not a Browns fan (obviously). Was Sipe pretty good?
He was up and down.
57-55 career record
But, he started at QB more games than any other QB in Browns history and was well liked. He engineered the Browns "Kardiac Kids" days. Lost his job and became disgruntled with NFL and decided to play for USFL.
But, he started at QB more games than any other QB in Browns history and was well liked. He engineered the Browns "Kardiac Kids" days. Lost his job and became disgruntled with NFL and decided to play for USFL.
Very cool. The fans embraced him, then thats a "Franchise Quarterback".
But, he started at QB more games than any other QB in Browns history and was well liked. He engineered the Browns "Kardiac Kids" days. Lost his job and became disgruntled with NFL and decided to play for USFL.
Very cool. The fans embraced him, then thats a "Franchise Quarterback".
Not only that...
Originally posted by http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/team/history/honor/detail.php?id=2492
Brian Sipe was the most productive quarterback in team history and led the "Kardiac Kids" teams of the late 1970s and early '80s. He is best remembered for the 1980 season when he was named consensus NFL MVP after leading the team into the playoffs and passing for 4,132 yards and 30 touchdowns - both team records. Sipe also set an individual game record for the Browns with 444 passing yards on Oct. 25, 1981 against the Baltimore Colts. He holds the Browns career passing marks for yards (23,713), touchdowns (154), attempts (3,439) and completions (1,944). A 13th round draft choice of the Browns in 1972, Sipe was selected to play in the 1981 Pro Bowl.
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