Tell me about Jay Cutler

[ExBearFan]

Not looking to start any flame wars here. I really knew nothing of the guy before the trade. I've seen him in a few games at Chicago now and I have a few questions. Keep in mind, my perceptions may be colored by the whole trade demand fiasco.

He just doesn't seem like a true leader. Something about his demeanor, posture, facial expressions, I dunno. Every time I see him, I see a guy who seems kinda separated. I'm used to Orton, who was constantly talking to his coaches, other QBs, OL, etc, and so enthusiastic and supportive of his fellow players.

Cutler kinda seems like he's just .... there. Showing up, throwing his passes, sitting down. Like I said, though, maybe I'm still just pissed about the whole trade.

[kylehyden]

if you like a strong arm and many INTs he's your guy

[RocketArm006]

Not looking to start any flame wars here. I really knew nothing of the guy before the trade. I've seen him in a few games at Chicago now and I have a few questions. Keep in mind, my perceptions may be colored by the whole trade demand fiasco.

He just doesn't seem like a true leader. Something about his demeanor, posture, facial expressions, I dunno. Every time I see him, I see a guy who seems kinda separated. I'm used to Orton, who was constantly talking to his coaches, other QBs, OL, etc, and so enthusiastic and supportive of his fellow players.

Cutler kinda seems like he's just .... there. Showing up, throwing his passes, sitting down. Like I said, though, maybe I'm still just pissed about the whole trade.

Those are all of the same gripes that were hashed out over and over again on these boards.

I really liked Cutler, he was (WAS) my favorite player. Just like all QBs, he has his pros and cons.

Pros: Makes incredible plays; I'm sure you cheered your a$$ off when he made that back flip into the endzone a couple of weeks ago. He does have a very large skill set: arm strength, scrambling ability, ability to throw on the run, etc. He plays hard by following running plays to make a block, always tries hard. Unfortunately, this leads to his cons.

Cons: willing to take MAJOR risks, especially when down by 10+ points. Turnovers. His personality seems to be a problem, he's not a media darling and says dumb things. I personally don't care about personality, but a lot of people do, especially when it comes to that position.

With all of that said, I still think Cutler will turn out to be an excellent QB. He's a bit of a wild stallion right now, but I really think he has the tools to be very good. Besides, he can be really fun to watch.

For the record, I'm over Cutler and I'm really enjoying the Broncos right now. I like Orton and I have grown to like his style of play (which is the polar opposite of Cutler).

Don't worry, he's a good QB and I'm sure he'll pan out.

I'm one of the few who was able to get over it and move on.

Prepare for the onslaught of Cutler bashing...........................

[porkadachop]

Not looking to start any flame wars here. I really knew nothing of the guy before the trade. I've seen him in a few games at Chicago now and I have a few questions. Keep in mind, my perceptions may be colored by the whole trade demand fiasco.

He just doesn't seem like a true leader. Something about his demeanor, posture, facial expressions, I dunno. Every time I see him, I see a guy who seems kinda separated. I'm used to Orton, who was constantly talking to his coaches, other QBs, OL, etc, and so enthusiastic and supportive of his fellow players.

Cutler kinda seems like he's just .... there. Showing up, throwing his passes, sitting down. Like I said, though, maybe I'm still just pissed about the whole trade.

I think this is a pretty good summary of Cutler. He can wow you at times, but he just isn't a winner IMO. His body language gets real bad when he is losing. He blames his line, the refs, anyone when things aren't going his way. He will throw into triple coverage. He has all the tools, but it came apparent to some Bronco fans last year that he didn't have the head or heart to be a leader. He may grow up one day. Also, the media loves him because he is flashy. The more success Orton has here, the fewer Cutler apologists you see around here.

[Hoserman117]

We told this exact same thing to every Bears fan the entire offseason and all they could say was "Dur you guys had a bad defense".

Cutler is a great physical talent and he's good when his head allows him to be. For the most part he sucks under the spotlight and I don't ever see him being a SB QB.

[Bronco Texan]

We told this exact same thing to every Bears fan the entire offseason and all they could say was "Dur you guys had a bad defense".

Cutler is a great physical talent and he's good when his head allows him to be. For the most part he sucks under the spotlight and I don't ever see him being a SB QB.

Or it was "sounds like someone is still pissed about the trade." You can't tell this to many Bears fans. Most of them are still in denial just like we all were the last three years. I watched the Sunday night game and it was the same ole Cutler to me. Go out on the field and make a play or make a mistake, then go back and sit on the bench away from everyone and pout.

[tightline]

He lacks leadership, he makes bad decisions, he doesn't spread the ball around enough, he is sickly with sugar problems, he is a fake and he is hard to respect.

He has a strong arm and he lets that overload his ass. :go:

[dizzolve]

What I don't understand is how people say 'he can make all the throws' but how can you say that when he throws so many to the defense?

Obviously he struggles making all the throws

[PowderAddict]

He has the physical tools to be one of the best QB's in the NFL - period.

He has the mental/emotional tools to be one of the worst QB's in the NFL.

His arm seduces playcallers - it particularly seduces Cutler. There isn't a situation out there where he won't audible out of a run play.

In his mind, he doesn't need coaching, restraint, or to be told what to do. He's Jay Cutler, and he's good enough that he can do what he wants, when he wants, how he wants.

Now that time is going by, my anger toward him is waning - just a bit. Part of me wants him to realize his potential, just not this year. If he doesn't, with the picks the Bears have given up, that could set that franchise back for years. I still want him to fall flat on his face so Denver gets a good draft pick though.

[Sync]

Imagine Brett Favre. Cutler is similar... kind of. You know how there's a Good Brett Favre and a Bad Brett Favre and they seem to show up at random? (Not so much this season, admittedly.) Well, Jay works in kind of the same way. Apart from the fact that the Good Jay Cutler is considerably worse than the Good Brett Favre, and the Bad Jay Cutler is worse than the Bad Brett Favre.

He also has the maturity level of a fifteen year-old girl hitting puberty.
Aside from that, very physically talented.

[PAINTERDAVE]

And he has done some really sketchy things at the Denver nightclubs.
The stories I have heard are pretty graphic.
I won't go into detail... but some of my buds at the Stampede have some shocking stories that they personaly witnessed and were involved in.

I saw a news story that many fans in Chicago are concerned about his nightclubbing as well. If HALF the stuff I heard about him here is true...

YIKES!

[PurdueBronc]

Not looking to start any flame wars here. I really knew nothing of the guy before the trade. I've seen him in a few games at Chicago now and I have a few questions. Keep in mind, my perceptions may be colored by the whole trade demand fiasco.

He just doesn't seem like a true leader. Something about his demeanor, posture, facial expressions, I dunno. Every time I see him, I see a guy who seems kinda separated. I'm used to Orton, who was constantly talking to his coaches, other QBs, OL, etc, and so enthusiastic and supportive of his fellow players.

Cutler kinda seems like he's just .... there. Showing up, throwing his passes, sitting down. Like I said, though, maybe I'm still just pissed about the whole trade.

Unfortunately for Bears' fans, I think you are correct that Jay is not a leader. He has all the ability in the world to play QB; but, as far as leading a team, he comes up short. It does seem he becomes distant when things are not going well. I think his emotions get the better of him and he becomes disenchanted when things go bad, which shows in his play. On the sidelines it's as if he isolates himself.

Leaders need the ability to forget about bad plays, and the ability to pump up his teammates in the face of adversity. I don't think Cutler has that capability. I also think his attitude influences the team play for the worse. No one wants to play for a guy that pouts when things go wrong, like Cutler has done on a number of occasions.

It's for this reason, that I don't think the Broncos would be better off with him at the helm. Last year it seemed the players on the team were getting fed up with his antics at the end of the season. There seemed to be no team unity, and no desire to rally around Cutler. IMHO, this ultimately led to the colossal collapse.

The mentality of the team with Orton as the QB seems much different. On the sidelines you see Orton laughing and talking with his teammates. It seems that he has commanded a lot more respect from his team than Cutler could muster. This leads to a much more cohesive team. A team that has 53 individuals that will play their hearts out for one another, all in an effort to further the team's mission. I am loving what I see, and would not trade Orton for Cutler for anything.

Thank you Chicago for the trade. :salute!::orton:

[rogue719]

Not looking to start any flame wars here. I really knew nothing of the guy before the trade. I've seen him in a few games at Chicago now and I have a few questions. Keep in mind, my perceptions may be colored by the whole trade demand fiasco.

He just doesn't seem like a true leader. Something about his demeanor, posture, facial expressions, I dunno. Every time I see him, I see a guy who seems kinda separated. I'm used to Orton, who was constantly talking to his coaches, other QBs, OL, etc, and so enthusiastic and supportive of his fellow players.

Cutler kinda seems like he's just .... there. Showing up, throwing his passes, sitting down. Like I said, though, maybe I'm still just pissed about the whole trade.

Hmmm, pros and cons. How about a short synopsis of the guy instead?

Personality: apparently his teammates really liked him. Is the kind of guy that goes into the weight room and gets into friendly competition with his linemen on who can press the most weight. Very competitive, though not as "fiery" as, say, a Phillip Rivers. Very intense. The kind of guy that, after a three and out, will pull a receiver aside on the sideline and chew the guy out for not getting a pass that was thrown to him (and in that matter, very like Favre). During his final year in Denver, avoided a number of opportunities to "call out" his defensive teammates for their failures but was video'd on the sideline chewing out receivers after a series. Overall, a team guy. Very private. Much has been made of him sitting alone on the sideline rather than with his teammates, but some people tend to live more inside their own heads than socializing with others. Cutler may be one of those, but it gives him a "stand-offish" demeanor that doesn't sit well with some. Cutler doesn't seem to worry if they are upset or put off, though. It's just who he is.

Physical: gifted right arm. Can throw the ball sixty-five yards on a rope as he did for his first professional touchdown, striking a bullet from his own 35 yard line all the way down-field to hit Javon Walker crossing into the end zone. Has the ability to throw the ball with great velocity but with enough "touch" that the ball is catchable. Quick enough to avoid a sack most of the time, agile and quick and feels the pressure coming before it gets to him. One of the reasons he had so few sacks last year was not only the line protecting him but his own ability to find his way clear as the pocket collapsed. What he can do VERY well is keep drives alive, even if his line or receivers screw up with a penalty that with other QB's might end a drive. Cutler simply sends them all deep and fires a bullet to one of the receivers who are open to keep the drive going.

Attitude: here is where he gets into trouble. Has a great belief in his own arm and his ability to force the ball into very small, tight spaces. Seems to lack the ability or the patience to check down to the safest receiver and will attempt to force the ball to the primary receiver even in double and on a few occasions, triple coverage. Specially targeted Brandon Marshall last year, which is one of the reasons Marshall had so many receptions, though not that many TDs. Other receivers might be open, but Cutler seemed to know coming out of the huddle where the ball was going to go, regardless. Seems to disdain the "dink and dunk" and will go for the deeper receiver even when that isn't the best option. This could be attitude, a lack of patience or simply not seeing the more open man because he is concentrating so hard on getting the ball downfield where he wants to go.

Cavalier in protecting the ball. Didn't worry about throwing an int as he believed he could get the ball back and make up for it with a TD drive on the next possession. Believes that on every possession he can take the ball the distance for a TD drive. That is a good thing - forcing the ball into tight coverage when not necessary to try to get that TD is not such a good thing. Especially in the red zone, when throwing the ball away instead of forcing it into tight coverage might give you a better opportunity on the next play or at least get you the three pointer rather than coming away empty-handed.

Has Type II diabetes and manages it very well, but the disease is likely to shorten his professional career despite his attempts to curtail it's effects. This isn't because Cutler isn't paying attention, but the disease can be that debilitation.

Much of his problems can likely be chalked up to his age and lack of maturity. With good coaching and a team that's willing to build around him, as he matures he has the potential to be one of the best QB's in the NFL, but the question is whether or not he matures. Working with good coaches, people he trusts and respects, he could get there eventually, however, the way he handled his business in Denver indicates he still has a long way to go. I think he has tremendous potential, a tremendous upside. The only question is going to be if he can live up to that potential.

What the Bears essentially did is gamble that Cutler will mature enough to BE that guy for them in the next couple of years - in fact, Lovie is gambling his job on it. They had a guy that moved the ball and got the job done but wasn't sexy, wasn't the marquee guy that sold tickets and made people go "ooooh" when he fired the ball downfield, but simply went out and won games. The Bears belief was that Cutler failed to be a winner simply because of the lack of defense in Denver and that if he only had a decent defense and special teams to help support him, he could thrive. That's the gamble. They bet the future on it.


that's my fair, impartial and balanced synopsis of what I saw in Cutler in the past couple of seasons. Hope it's helpful.

[Poindexter]

I'll keep my post simple and to the point.

Cutler is a selfish, narcissistic, egomaniac who puts himself before his team. He is unwilling, or unable to accept any sort of defeat which is why he forces so many INT's. He doesn't grasp the concept of living to fight another day.

I'm glad he's gone.

[ExBearFan]

Hmmm, pros and cons. How about a short synopsis of the guy instead?

Personality: apparently his teammates really liked him. Is the kind of guy that goes into the weight room and gets into friendly competition with his linemen on who can press the most weight. Very competitive, though not as "fiery" as, say, a Phillip Rivers. Very intense. The kind of guy that, after a three and out, will pull a receiver aside on the sideline and chew the guy out for not getting a pass that was thrown to him (and in that matter, very like Favre). During his final year in Denver, avoided a number of opportunities to "call out" his defensive teammates for their failures but was video'd on the sideline chewing out receivers after a series. Overall, a team guy. Very private. Much has been made of him sitting alone on the sideline rather than with his teammates, but some people tend to live more inside their own heads than socializing with others. Cutler may be one of those, but it gives him a "stand-offish" demeanor that doesn't sit well with some. Cutler doesn't seem to worry if they are upset or put off, though. It's just who he is.

Physical: gifted right arm. Can throw the ball sixty-five yards on a rope as he did for his first professional touchdown, striking a bullet from his own 35 yard line all the way down-field to hit Javon Walker crossing into the end zone. Has the ability to throw the ball with great velocity but with enough "touch" that the ball is catchable. Quick enough to avoid a sack most of the time, agile and quick and feels the pressure coming before it gets to him. One of the reasons he had so few sacks last year was not only the line protecting him but his own ability to find his way clear as the pocket collapsed. What he can do VERY well is keep drives alive, even if his line or receivers screw up with a penalty that with other QB's might end a drive. Cutler simply sends them all deep and fires a bullet to one of the receivers who are open to keep the drive going.

Attitude: here is where he gets into trouble. Has a great belief in his own arm and his ability to force the ball into very small, tight spaces. Seems to lack the ability or the patience to check down to the safest receiver and will attempt to force the ball to the primary receiver even in double and on a few occasions, triple coverage. Specially targeted Brandon Marshall last year, which is one of the reasons Marshall had so many receptions, though not that many TDs. Other receivers might be open, but Cutler seemed to know coming out of the huddle where the ball was going to go, regardless. Seems to disdain the "dink and dunk" and will go for the deeper receiver even when that isn't the best option. This could be attitude, a lack of patience or simply not seeing the more open man because he is concentrating so hard on getting the ball downfield where he wants to go.

Cavalier in protecting the ball. Didn't worry about throwing an int as he believed he could get the ball back and make up for it with a TD drive on the next possession. Believes that on every possession he can take the ball the distance for a TD drive. That is a good thing - forcing the ball into tight coverage when not necessary to try to get that TD is not such a good thing. Especially in the red zone, when throwing the ball away instead of forcing it into tight coverage might give you a better opportunity on the next play or at least get you the three pointer rather than coming away empty-handed.

Has Type II diabetes and manages it very well, but the disease is likely to shorten his professional career despite his attempts to curtail it's effects. This isn't because Cutler isn't paying attention, but the disease can be that debilitation.

Much of his problems can likely be chalked up to his age and lack of maturity. With good coaching and a team that's willing to build around him, as he matures he has the potential to be one of the best QB's in the NFL, but the question is whether or not he matures. Working with good coaches, people he trusts and respects, he could get there eventually, however, the way he handled his business in Denver indicates he still has a long way to go. I think he has tremendous potential, a tremendous upside. The only question is going to be if he can live up to that potential.

What the Bears essentially did is gamble that Cutler will mature enough to BE that guy for them in the next couple of years - in fact, Lovie is gambling his job on it. They had a guy that moved the ball and got the job done but wasn't sexy, wasn't the marquee guy that sold tickets and made people go "ooooh" when he fired the ball downfield, but simply went out and won games. The Bears belief was that Cutler failed to be a winner simply because of the lack of defense in Denver and that if he only had a decent defense and special teams to help support him, he could thrive. That's the gamble. They bet the future on it.


that's my fair, impartial and balanced synopsis of what I saw in Cutler in the past couple of seasons. Hope it's helpful.

Thank you; just what I was looking for. I'm sure Cutler will do well in Chicago: they have a storied history of developing quarterback talent.

Oh wait....