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  • Quinn-Hillis Trade: Hillis pushes for starting spot with Browns

    Sorry if this was posted already. Conducted an (albeit) quick scan and search and found nothing.... I was reading a blurb in the Denver Post on how CLE fans are warming up to P-Hillis - http://www.denverpost.com/broncos/ci_15863069 - and someone posted a link on the comments section... to this yahoo article... on Hillis possibly starting in CLE.

    Still think it was a deal Mcdaniels had to make, and bringing in White and Fargas makes up for the loss of Hillis. Still perplexed as to why we got nothing from him last year. BUT, he's showing signs of returning to life for the Browns.



    Peyton Hillis pushes for starting spot with Browns

    Return to Original BEREA, Ohio (AP)—Peyton Hillis(notes) would not let a summer rainstorm, slick turf, or six St. Louis Rams stop him.

    Rain-soaked Cleveland Browns fans roared as Hillis broke six tackles on a gutty 9-yard run to start the second quarter Saturday night. It sparked Cleveland to its’ first touchdown in a 19-17 preseason loss.

    “We got fired up seeing that,” center Alex Mack(notes) said Sunday. “Anytime you see one of your guys running downhill, running over people, you just love it.”

    Hillis, thwarted at the line, broke to his right, and carried defenders with him. He flexed his muscles and stomped his feet after his battering Ram run.

    The fans loved it. Coach Eric Mangini did, too. It was the type of effort he had seen Hillis contribute to Denver Broncos drives the past two years before being dealt for quarterback Brady Quinn(notes) in March.

    “It was good to see the things he can do as a runner,” Mangini said. “It was good to see things you remember him doing, which were reasons for the trade. He gives you a spark as a tough, physical guy.”

    Offensive coordinator Brian Daboll and quarterback Jake Delhomme(notes) liked Hillis’ bowling-ball routine so much they called his number four times on the next six plays: a 1-yard plunge; pass plays of 3 and 9 yards; and another bulldozing 4-yard run to the right.

    “He’s the epitome of tough, rugged football,” Delhomme said.

    Hillis gained a team-leading 51 yards on 12 carries and credited teammates for creating his pile-pushing performance.

    “I just try to do the best I can,” said Hillis. “A lot of guys helped out with great blocking by the offensive line and (fullback Lawrence) Vickers. We got some things going, but we still have a long way to go.”

    The long way includes hanging on to the football. The Browns’ five turnovers — equal to the total they had in their final five games of last season, upset Mangini.

    “It’s critical to protect the football in any kind of weather,” Mangini said. “We looked back and one team out of 40 has won (in recent years) with five turnovers. You might as well play the powerball (lottery) at that point.”

    Power football is Hillis’ game. It is the style Mangini wants and what pleased him most as Cleveland overcame a 13-0 deficit with 17 straight points.

    “We did some positive things when we played Browns football,” Mangini said, adding that the squad had better get used to practicing in Cleveland’s harsh climate during the season.

    “It is one reason I believe so firmly in practicing in the elements,” Mangini said. “We’re going to rent out the indoor facility for a car show.”

    Mangini’s glibness didn’t mask his disappointment in the mistake-prone loss that included seven penalties.

    Hillis, who fumbled only once in two years with Denver, said he understands keeping the football is as important as advancing it.

    “We had a lot of turnovers,” he said. “If we hold on to the ball, a lot of things can be different. You know weather definitely plays a factor, but you’ve got to overcome that. Everybody’s going to play in tough-weather games— snow, rain, sleet—but you’ve got to hold onto the football.”

    Hillis had no fumbles as a rookie when he gained 343 yards on 68 runs for the Broncos in 2008. With a longest run of only 19 yards, his 5-yard average was particularly poignant as to his consistency. Denver changed coaches, however, and a new offensive philosophy limited him to 13 carries for 54 yards in 2009.

    Mangini likely will give the 6-foot-1, 240-pound Hillis more opportunities to tote the football.

    “He is tough with the ball in his hands,” Mangini said. “He is more elusive than you think for a guy his size. He did add some, a little bit of fuel to the group. What’s frustrating is we shouldn’t be in the position where we need to add fuel.”

    Hillis’ hard-hitting style can be especially valuable as a blocker for Jerome Harrison(notes), who led Cleveland with 862 yards rushing and five touchdowns in 2009.

    “I kind of like to think I can do everything decently well,” Hillis said. “It’s just putting me in position to be a playmaker, blocking, special teams, no matter what it may be. Whenever I go out there, I’m going to do my best.”

  • #2
    This is the kind of trade that ends up on one of those Top 10 shows that will not reflect kindly on the Broncos.

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    • #3
      Not trying to diminish what he did in the game, but he averaged 4.2 yards per carry against the Rams.

      I'm also not certain which quarter he played in, thus we can't say what level of competition he was facing.

      His longest run was 9 yards.

      Not bad, but not good enough to be a primary halfback - not in Denver at least. It also didn't talk about his pass-blocking (if any) or run blocking if he was ever the lead blocker for a HB.

      Originally posted by jhildebrand View Post
      This is the kind of trade that ends up on one of those Top 10 shows that will not reflect kindly on the Broncos.
      Really? Post it in the prognostication thread if you have faith in it.

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      • #4
        Oh noes, we traded an average back for a crappy backup! We're doomed!





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        • #5
          Papa-pwn will have to use a new sig! Just kidding, it is obvious he will back off. But anyway, I doubt Hillis will start there. It is a crowded backfield. Jerome Harrison played very well last season and they have Montario Hardesty with the status of a 2nd round pick. Still, the Browns will use Hillis all over the field, making catches like Dallas Clark and Chris Cooley, and he will get his share of carries.

          Note: Hillis is playing with the 1st string offense as RB, FB and H-back
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          • #6
            He looked good playing against the rams 2nd and third stringers. and since the rams first stringers are 2nd and 3rd stringers on most other teams, he cumulatively looked good against the UFL......

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Roddoliver View Post
              Papa-pwn will have to use a new sig! Just kidding, it is obvious he will back off. But anyway, I doubt Hillis will start there. It is a crowded backfield. Jerome Harrison played very well last season and they have Montario Hardesty with the status of a 2nd round pick. Still, the Browns will use Hillis all over the field, making catches like Dallas Clark and Chris Cooley, and he will get his share of carries.

              Note: Hillis is playing with the 1st string offense as RB, FB and H-back

              The article i read said he didn't start running until the end of the second quarter when most of the starters were starting to get rotated out...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Alastor
                Not trying to diminish what he did in the game, but he averaged 4.2 yards per carry against the Rams.

                I'm also not certain which quarter he played in, thus we can't say what level of competition he was facing.

                His longest run was 9 yards.

                Not bad, but not good enough to be a primary halfback - not in Denver at least. It also didn't talk about his pass-blocking (if any) or run blocking if he was ever the lead blocker for a HB.
                I liked Hillis, but also felt this was a trade we had to make. EVEN IF it wasn't going to work out with Quinn, we had to swap the chance that it might for a 7th round FB. Just had to.

                When we traded Cutler, we were worried that Mcd felt he could turn anybody into a QB (much like how Shanny felt about RBs), and that we would have to settle for (and hope that) a mid-round QB (like Brandstater) would be the future.

                We all know the Tony Romo types.... are more miracles than happenstance. That for every Romo there are years of futility trying to find an answer under center.

                ANYWAY. DRAFTING A FIRST ROUND QB AND TRADING FOR A FORMER FIRST ROUND QB, WHO IS STILL YOUNG, doesn't mean you will assure yourself of getting the franchise QB. While I admit that, I did find comfort in the fact that we weren't putting all our eggs in one basket.

                If anything, we bring in guys to compete with and push Orton. Stocking the system with Orton and those 2 first round QBs, after the Cutler deal, certainly went a long way to ease my worries about a potential gap from now until next decade at the QB position.

                It might not work out.... But for Hillis, and a few picks (we accumuated during the draft), this was easily worth the risk (even if we overspent).
                Last edited by fraguela09; 08-23-2010, 10:02 AM.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by owninit View Post
                  The article i read said he didn't start running until the end of the second quarter when most of the starters were starting to get rotated out...
                  Nope. Hillis is getting on the field as soon as the game starts. He is playing multiple positions.
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                  • #10
                    Hillis was a Shanahan type of player. He didn't fit what McDaniels likes to do.

                    Regardless of what any of us think about Bowlen firing Shanahan, we had to expect a lot of changes as McDaniels tries to make this HIS team.

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                    • #11
                      And here we are signing/making offers to runningbacks with any signs of life LOL I will never understand the dynamic that took place between Hillis and McD.

                      You can tell the guy is a football player through and through- I wish him well in Cleveland

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Roddoliver View Post
                        Nope. Hillis is getting on the field as soon as the game starts. He is playing multiple positions.



                        according to this he didn't get his first carry until the second quarter...

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Alastor View Post
                          Not trying to diminish what he did in the game, but he averaged 4.2 yards per carry against the Rams.

                          I'm also not certain which quarter he played in, thus we can't say what level of competition he was facing.

                          His longest run was 9 yards.

                          Not bad, but not good enough to be a primary halfback - not in Denver at least. It also didn't talk about his pass-blocking (if any) or run blocking if he was ever the lead blocker for a HB.
                          Sounds like this Knowshon Moreno guy I know. No long runs, low ypc....but he is good enough to be the primary halfback in Denver.

                          Yep.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by 22Bernard24 View Post
                            Sounds like this Knowshon Moreno guy I know. No long runs, low ypc....but he is good enough to be the primary halfback in Denver.

                            Yep.
                            apparently he's worse than Lamont Jordan...

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                            • #15
                              Good for Hillis, glad to see he's getting on honest shot

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