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Quinn-Hillis Trade: Hillis pushes for starting spot with Browns
He ended up in the "dog house" because he drew way to many penalties, he had some fumbles and he was in in short yard situations where he didn't perform.
That's an intereting angle, especially considering that Hillis only has 1 fumble in his career. But nice try. Creative angle :thumb:
And it's funny how a short yard failure for Hillis is his just fault, yet when it happens to Moreno the OL is to blame...
BINGO! You hit the nail on the head --- he fumbled a couple of times and ended up in the doghouse (well, at fullback, which is pretty much the same thing in a primarily one-back offense).
Fact is, Hillis is EXACTLY the type of player McD is always saying he likes --- tough, smart, versatile. Unfortunately, it appears that he's not always the most objective when it comes to evaluating talent.
Let see ---
Big-name first-round BUST of a QB who couldn't even beat out Derek Anderson (who?) in Cleveland vs. an over-achieving 7th-round steal who plays hard every play and who will do anything just to get on the field....
Sorry, I just can't see how that trade made sense, other than the fact that it was before the draft and he had no idea who'd back up Orton (though I think Brandstater would have been fine, really) and he was tired of hearing the fans and the media talking about a player he had no intention of giving an actual shot.
In any case, I'd take him over any of the FA scrap-pile refugees that are in our backfield for now while we wait on Buck and Knowshon to get healthy --- but you know the saying, "If wishes were horses..."
Lets try another angle on Hillis.
He ended up in the "dog house" because he drew way to many penalties, he had some fumbles and he was in in short yard situations where he didn't perform. Not at any time last year did he show that he should be a starter.
Maybe Hillis had a harder than average comprehension of what the offense should do, and hence drew penalties. Josh runs a very complex system and maybe Hillis is tough (no argument there) but not as good at staying on assignment as some others.
The coaches see the players every day, and it is clear that Josh did not see Hillis as a special RB.
dont know. how much would you give for a good backup running back right now?
A lot.
Sadly, I don't think Hillis qualifies.
Moreno, Buckhalter, Clady and more will all be back for game 1 though. We'll also have Larsen and White comes in after week 4. So we'll have backs by season start.
Look for Moreno to have a big opening day. There's a reason McDaniels kept running up the middle last Saturday, and it sure as Hell wasn't to get Fargas practice as a starter.
The thing that blows my mind is how many people get caught up in a players draft selection when looking at this trade. Oh Hillis was a 7th rd FB and Quin a 1st rd QB when what you really need is to look at the FILM. We all know what Hillis did as a rookie when he was given a chance and it was far better production than the 12th pick we wasted on Kno Mo.
Conversely we have seen Quin in Cleveland and what did he really show when he was given a shot? Now throw in the picks and this trade just doesn't make sense to me.
This is probably my biggest issue with McD, he's creating holes on this team that didn't exist instead of addressing the known ones. How many draft picks and FA moves have been wasted on positions that weren't a problem?
Just a few that I think can be agrued.
Cutler - he's traded and McD spent 3 picks to get TT and 2 picks plus a player to get BQ and 1 pick to get TB. That's 7 picks to replace what amounts to 2 players? How about the pick for Kno Mo and all of the wasted moves to bring in other RB scrubs when he could have utilized Hillis?
I guess my point is IMHO he should have looked at what was largely the consensus issue (the defense) and worked on that instead of creating more issues on the team in general.
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