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  • #16
    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
    as a chargers fan, i sure hope the broncos continue to give their fans what they want instead of making decisions for themselves lol

    any fan that thinks its a good idea for their team to make decisions based on what the fans want, crack me up.
    Ya cuz we were so wrong about Orton ...and be real, I'm talking about something as obvious as the garbage QB

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    • #17
      Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
      Oh I forgot Kyle Orton is so much better than his counterpart bum Rex who alternated giving up the starting job with him
      oh i forgot tebow actually has proven he can win games and be successful at this level without actually going out and doing it, my bad.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by baphamet View Post
        it wouldn't have been the same. i am not saying you wouldn't have won but you saying you would have more wins "without a doubt" is not very realistic and has absolutely not Truth to it.

        thats like me saying the chargers would be undefeated and have a far better offense if we had gates or if we were not so banged up.
        Umm ya they probably would be much better with a healthy Gates ...n I think Orton has easily lost us every single game outside of the GB game so ya I think without a doubt we would've at least won one more game without that gatbage bum who always sucks

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        • #19
          Originally posted by baphamet View Post
          oh i forgot tebow actually has proven he can win games and be successful at this level without actually going out and doing it, my bad.
          Don't act like what he has done so far in his career is not impressive ...that's ridiculous, I didn't say we'd be 5-0...I said we'd have a better record

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          • #20
            Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
            Ya cuz we were so wrong about Orton ...and be real, I'm talking about something as obvious as the garbage QB
            what were you right about? that it was all because of Orton? that you just needed to start tebow and everything else would just fall into place and you would start winning more games "without a doubt"?

            sorry but the only thing obvious is the pedestal tebow is put on in Denver without proving he can actually play and win at this level.

            don't worry though, you will actually get the chance to see if tebow can indeed beat they teams you say he would have beat if he played in the games or started them.
            Last edited by baphamet; 10-16-2011, 01:08 PM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
              Don't act like what he has done so far in his career is not impressive ...that's ridiculous, I didn't say we'd be 5-0...I said we'd have a better record
              lol impressive? oh man, i am really trying hard to hold the smack back.

              let me just say that yeah, he is impressive running the ball (for a QB). but in my opinion he has not looked particularly good throwing it.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                what were you right about? that it was all because of Orton? that you just needed to start tebow and everything else would just fall into place and you would start winning more games "without a doubt"?

                sorry but the only thing obvious is the pedestal tebow is put on in Denver without proving he can actually play and win at this level.

                don't worry though, you will actually get the chance to see if tebow can indeed beat they teams you say he would have beat of he played in the games or started them.
                So Kyle Orton starting QB was not a mistake by the Broncos? Wth why am I asking you, ofcourse you'd love Orton to start you're an SD fan...what's clear is Orton constantly went 3 and out and sucks terribly ...plain and simple

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                  what were you right about? that it was all because of Orton? that you just needed to start tebow and everything else would just fall into place and you would start winning more games "without a doubt"?

                  sorry but the only thing obvious is the pedestal tebow is put on in Denver without proving he can actually play and win at this level.

                  don't worry though, you will actually get the chance to see if tebow can indeed beat they teams you say he would have beat if he played in the games or started them.
                  People are crazy

                  Broncos are in some tough times, everyone's lookin for some kind of 'savior'

                  It's pretty ridiculous what some people will say during these times though
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                    lol impressive? oh man, i am really trying hard to hold the smack back.

                    let me just say that yeah, he is impressive running the ball (for a QB). but in my opinion he has not looked particularly good throwing it.
                    Well I somewhat agree but the guy just finds a way to get it done ...I'm not the biggest Tebow fan which I think you're misinterpreting...I just hate Kyle Orton (as a player) with a passion and he should not have played another down this season after his garabge the last 2 years

                    That's more of the focus hell I would've been happier with Quinn

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                    • #25
                      Only a handful of QBs can get away with 4 picks in a game......but they have rings
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
                        Well I somewhat agree but the guy just finds a way to get it done ...I'm not the biggest Tebow fan which I think you're misinterpreting...I just hate Kyle Orton (as a player) with a passion and he should not have played another down this season after his garabge the last 2 years

                        That's more of the focus hell I would've been happier with Quinn
                        well at least you will get to see if tebow can do it or not. i think either way it will help take the distractions away from the fans always booing your QB for every little mistake he makes (or the rest of the team for that matter).

                        i am not sure if the fans consider that or care but at least tebow wont have to deal with that nonsense.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by baphamet View Post
                          well at least you will get to see if tebow can do it or not. i think either way it will help take the distractions away from the fans always booing your QB for every little mistake he makes (or the rest of the team for that matter).

                          i am not sure if the fans consider that or care but at least tebow wont have to deal with that nonsense.
                          To be honest man I love that they booed like that ...it shows how much they care....unlike Miami fans who just stop showing up and there's no benefit to Orton starting we need to see if Tebow can cut it or not

                          It works out well either way ...if Tebow shows he can hang, we can draft a playmaker elsewhere in the 1st...if he sucks n we tank ...we got a good shot at a franchise qb with a top 5 pick ...it's a win-win with Tebow ...a lose lose with Orton who is a loser

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                          • #28
                            Wow, how'd you guys manage to turn this thread into Tebow vs Orton, crazy.

                            Back on topic, what did Shanny think was going to happen starting Rex? Start Rex and get mad when he throws INTs, hilarious.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
                              Grossman sucks all game ...Shanny wastes no time to give the Skins fans what they want and that's Beck ...no stupid stubborn garbage...made the switch while they still had a chance

                              Had Tebow started earlier this season without a doubt we'd have a better record ...most likely at least would have beaten SD and imo the Raiders ...it's in the past and the future is now but just givin props to Shanny to make the right call QUICKLY before it's too late like our season may be/most likely Is

                              Go Shanny!

                              Shanahan is the best coach the Broncos ever had for two reasons imo

                              1. He will do ANYTHING to maximize the ability of his team to win. You would never hear Shanahan saying his team is not good enough to play Hillis in short yardage or Tebow inside the 10. Shanahan will use every single player, play or coach who will help him win...he does not care who is making what, who was drafted at what round (or not drafted) or if it is his player or another coaches player.

                              2. When he makes a mistake he owns it, corrects its and moves on...RIGHT NOW. People bash him for drafting Clarett (sp?) but I like the way Shanahan moved on asap once he realized it was bad.


                              He definately was lacking in his vision for the defense but those two things above made him deadly as a coach.

                              So many coaches now a days get stuck with their players or their way of doing things. They end up with a great player but waste his skills for many reasons.
                              Skill + Effort = Talent. Talent + Effort = Achievement. A. Duckworth - Grit.

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