Brady VS Manning

[aberdien]

The question goes on, but with the Colts sucking it up it begs to be asked again: Who is the better QB?

Manning's value to the Colts is evident. They are lifeless and awful. Is Peyton Manning really THAT good that his team can't win a game without him? We can all remember when Brady got injured and Cassel was plugged into the Patriots offense. That team was almost as good with him as with Brady. Manning seemingly has played with less talent and not as good coaching, while Brady and the Pats have what looks like, based on the Cassel thing, a good amount of talent and excellent coaching. Is Brady simply a product of the coaching staff?

So tell me, is the above info enough to deduce that Manning is a better QB?

[InsaneBlaze23]

Tonight's game didn't prove that Manning is better than Brady and that the Colts are lifeless without him.

It proved that if the Colts don't start drafting smart, they are in a world of trouble. Their issues go far beyond not having Manning, whom is a key factor, but not the cause of 0-6 start.

Their defense is just completely horrid, and maybe even worst than that. They couldn't stop the run, if Tatum Bell was walking while selling a cell phone to the refs. Or defend against the pass, if Aaron Brooks was throwing ground balls.

On Offense, other than Saturday,Clark, Wayne, and Garcon, the offense is crap.

That team needs a lot, and have needed a lot for the past 2-3 seasons.

Manning is a smarter QB, and more needed for his team, but IMO Brady is better.

[bronx_2003]

Tonight's game didn't prove that Manning is better than Brady and that the Colts are lifeless without him.

It proved that if the Colts don't start drafting smart, they are in a world of trouble. Their issues go far beyond not having Manning, whom is a key factor, but not the cause of 0-6 start.

Their defense is just completely horrid, and maybe even worst than that. They couldn't stop the run, if Tatum Bell was walking while selling a cell phone to the refs. Or defend against the pass, if Aaron Brooks was throwing ground balls.

On Offense, other than Saturday,Clark, Wayne, and Garcon, the offense is crap.

That team needs a lot, and have needed a lot for the past 2-3 seasons.

Manning is a smarter QB, and more needed for his team, but IMO Brady is better.

I won't get into the Brady / Manning debate but their problem is 99 pc Manning.

If he was playing they would be AT LEAST 4-2.

Their weaknesses have always been covered up by him. Addai is nothing special but the D has to play so far back it massively helps the running game.

The WR core is pretty average, a good QB helps this enormously. I keep hearing people say that GB know how to draft receivers with Cobb, Nelson, etc......... but without Rodgers you would not have heard of half of these.

The D has always been pretty poor, they are just on the field more now. They did a good job against PITTS and TB this year though.

You really need a good QB to compete and without Manning they look poor. When Rodgers went down last year they lost @ DET who were poor without Stafford and lost @ NE, although played them tough.

People keep saying GB had alot of injuries last year but the main players were healthy. If Rodgers went on IR last preseason they do not even come close to making the playoffs.

Thats why we have to find out about Tebow or get a QB in round one.

[jcdavey]

brady is, imo, the better of the 2 qbs in their careers

[BroncoFanBoy]

I would actually say Manning is. Brady missed the whole 2008 season and the Patriots went 11-5. Manning probably will miss this season, and the Colts are 0-7. If he can make a team like that win 11+ games each season, that's very impressive.

[#24 Next Champ]

AHHHHH I HATE how people try to use that as a comparison to who is the better QB

DOES ANYONE EVER REALIZE OR NOTICE that theres a major difference in quality of the backups....Cassell is a starter for another NFL team that won their division last year ...who the hell is Curtis Painter?

The backup qbs understand (maybe not as well) but understand the Pats offense and are capable of running it because Tom Brady isn't their OC! ...Now Ill flip it on you ...does Manning actually make his team worse by being their OC because the backups are essentially lost?

No ...the truth is, the Colts have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prepare their team if Manning were to get injured and with his mobility they're lucky it hadn't happened before they let him be the GOD of the team and be the OC! and have absolutely no1 with any type of capability as their backup QB ...this is 100% on the FO and coaching staff or in this case lack their of ....it has nothing to do with Brady vs Manning

Belicheck does not put his team in such a fickle situation and also...The Pats were not as good the year Cassell took over they didn't even make the playoffs (even though they were 11-5) but still

And with all that said ...there is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION and it's further proved with last years top100 show ...that Tom Brady is, always was and will always be considered the better of the two ...and depending on what he does with the rest of his career ...he could separate himself of all as the greatest of all time

[bronx_2003]

AHHHHH I HATE how people try to use that as a comparison to who is the better QB

DOES ANYONE EVER REALIZE OR NOTICE that theres a major difference in quality of the backups....Cassell is a starter for another NFL team that won their division last year ...who the hell is Curtis Painter?

The backup qbs understand (maybe not as well) but understand the Pats offense and are capable of running it because Tom Brady isn't their OC! ...Now Ill flip it on you ...does Manning actually make his team worse by being their OC because the backups are essentially lost?

No ...the truth is, the Colts have done ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to prepare their team if Manning were to get injured and with his mobility they're lucky it hadn't happened before they let him be the GOD of the team and be the OC! and have absolutely no1 with any type of capability as their backup QB ...this is 100% on the FO and coaching staff or in this case lack their of ....it has nothing to do with Brady vs Manning

Belicheck does not put his team in such a fickle situation and also...The Pats were not as good the year Cassell took over they didn't even make the playoffs (even though they were 11-5) but still

And with all that said ...there is ABSOLUTELY NO QUESTION and it's further proved with last years top100 show ...that Tom Brady is, always was and will always be considered the better of the two ...and depending on what he does with the rest of his career ...he could separate himself of all as the greatest of all time

The top 100 show is disputable, not gospel. I think its impossible to answer this question.

Brady normally plays better in the playoffs but the last few years he was smoked by the Ravens and the Jets.

When Brady won his first few SB's it was mainly (IMO) down to the outstanding play by the D and in particular R Harrison.

Manning has ALWAYS had to carry that team because the D is always so bad. The Colts have been to 2 SB's recently, winning one. Would they of done that without Manning ? You're getting your answer this season - 0-7.

If Manning had the NE D the first few seasons Brady was in the league then they may have been unbeatable.

I think both are legends of the game and 2 of the best ever but who's better ? Impossible to say

[the0rangecrush]

They should just rename every MVP award the last 10 years to Manning

[broncsfan21]

I don't think this year is indicative that Manning is better than Brady.

It does prove that the Colts rely on Manning to win more than the Pats do Brady.

But look how the Colts are built.

Lately, their RBs are all blockers and receivers. None of them are ground pounders.

Their defense is made to play against the pass. Everyone is light and fast. When they get in a hole now and people start running on them, they get beat up.

[GridironChamp]

I'll take Brady everyday over Manning, he has/can do more with
less.

It's not his fault the Pats system isn't solely based on him.

[#24 Next Champ]

I'll take Brady everyday over Manning, he has/can do more with
less.

It's not his fault the Pats system isn't solely based on him.

Exactly .....

[canadiansbronco]

Aaron Rodgers

[RealBronco]

This is really simple:

If you put Brady on some other team he wouldn't do as well.

If you put Manning on ANY team that team is instantly better.

The evidence has already been discussed here. Brady was out for a whole season and the Patriots still made the playoffs and that interim QB is now starting elsewhere.

Manning is now going to be out for the season and the Colts haven't won a game yet. They still have all the other talent there, but they've yet to win.

Who was before Brady? Bledsoe. He isn't anything to laugh at either. He had been behind the helm during a Super Bowl appearance and Brady owes Bledsoe's injury his career.

Who was before Manning? Harbaugh. So both quarterbacks came into situations where they were replacing Pro Bowlers but it's clear that without Manning, the Colts are garbage, while without Brady, they can still function.

[RealBronco]

Aaron Rodgers

Also this...

[#24 Next Champ]

This is really simple:

If you put Brady on some other team he wouldn't do as well.

If you put Manning on ANY team that team is instantly better.

The evidence has already been discussed here. Brady was out for a whole season and the Patriots still made the playoffs and that interim QB is now starting elsewhere.

Manning is now going to be out for the season and the Colts haven't won a game yet. They still have all the other talent there, but they've yet to win.

Who was before Brady? Bledsoe. He isn't anything to laugh at either. He had been behind the helm during a Super Bowl appearance and Brady owes Bledsoe's injury his career.

Who was before Manning? Harbaugh. So both quarterbacks came into situations where they were replacing Pro Bowlers but it's clear that without Manning, the Colts are garbage, while without Brady, they can still function.

The pats did not make the playoffs the year Brady was out and this logic your using is SERIOUSLY flawed ...you need to read my post