Brady VS Manning

[watha?]

There is no i in team, but there's obviously an i in p.manning since he's able to take a pathetic colt team to the playoff yr after yr. P.manning>brady while colt<<<patriot. btw jc, i totally disagree with you about the colt sucking for luck theory; the players do have pride, they are just bad that's all.

[johnlimburg]

that's a fair statement

as i would suggest the same could be said about MOST qbs whom a team would call their franchise qb

a huge factor in indy's organization as well, was mistakingly building a team around one person (small oline designed for a qb with a quick release, but that allows the run game to suffer)

I think the Colts organisation gets a pass for that. When you have a guy like Manning who has never missed a game in so long and is still playing at an elite level I think it is fair to get a little complacent however there QB situation is awful. They should have developed someone. I think they wanted to do that with Painter but he is just awful. Will Manning ever be back to full strength. No idea but the Colts fan base better hope so or they are in for a long road of disaster for their football team.

[jcdavey]

I don't think anyone is throwing games at all. They are just not good football teams. Peyton Manning is the reason that the Colts are a regular playoff football team. Without him they were always going to suck and be fighting for the tittle of the worst football team in the league.

that's a fair statement

as i would suggest the same could be said about MOST qbs whom a team would call their franchise qb

a huge factor in indy's organization as well, was mistakingly building a team around one person (small oline designed for a qb with a quick release, but that allows the run game to suffer)

[johnlimburg]

aside from the titans and saints game, they've actually showed me they know how to throw games

i mean blowing a 17-0 lead vs kc....that's got suck for luck written all over it

down by 3 vs cincy and over 2 minutes left and the colts wr throws the ball backwards to a bengal player as if it was a lateral free for all play ....when the 2 minute warning hasn't even been hit yet?

something fishy is going on in indy......

it's right up there with miami going for 2 for no good reason.....very peculiar

I don't think anyone is throwing games at all. They are just not good football teams. Peyton Manning is the reason that the Colts are a regular playoff football team. Without him they were always going to suck and be fighting for the tittle of the worst football team in the league.

[jcdavey]

Technically he doesn't but come on now. How are you defending this still. They are showing they are nothing without him and that without Peyton they are not a playoff team. What I said was not stupid. How many wins they got this year ?

aside from the titans and saints game, they've actually showed me they know how to throw games

i mean blowing a 17-0 lead vs kc....that's got suck for luck written all over it

down by 3 vs cincy and over 2 minutes left and the colts wr throws the ball backwards to a bengal player as if it was a lateral free for all play ....when the 2 minute warning hasn't even been hit yet?

something fishy is going on in indy......

it's right up there with miami going for 2 for no good reason.....very peculiar

[johnlimburg]

that's stupid though John, peyton does not do it all for the football team

he doesn't catch the passes , he doesn't play defense

you're not a stupid guy, but you said a stupid thing, it's ok

we've all done it before lol

Technically he doesn't but come on now. How are you defending this still. They are showing they are nothing without him and that without Peyton they are not a playoff team. What I said was not stupid. How many wins they got this year ?

[jcdavey]

You said this was stupid:

Well if you ask me and a hell of a lot of other people they will say that team without Manning is a 4 win team. Yes I am assuming that but they are a bad football team and without Manning they are not a regular playoff team year in year out



Manning does it all for that football team. He is the reason they are playoff contenders.



Well Peyton is the reason they are there every year. Is that really wrong. You are saying that is wrong.

that's stupid though John, peyton does not do it all for the football team

he doesn't catch the passes , he doesn't play defense

you're not a stupid guy, but you said a stupid thing, it's ok

we've all done it before lol

[johnlimburg]

there's nothing to get out of

there's no I in team, therefore it's stupid to act as if there is

You said this was stupid:

Well if you ask me and a hell of a lot of other people they will say that team without Manning is a 4 win team. Yes I am assuming that but they are a bad football team and without Manning they are not a regular playoff team year in year out



Manning does it all for that football team. He is the reason they are playoff contenders.

john, jc is right, you can't do it alone.

And i'd take Peyton, he does more with less every year, guy is amazing.

Well Peyton is the reason they are there every year. Is that really wrong. You are saying that is wrong.

[BroncosDivision]

I stand by my opinion that Peyton Manning is the best quarterback in the history of the NFL. I don't think I've ever seen/will ever see a cerebral QB that has the type of throw velocity, accuracy, and pocket presence that Peyton Manning has. He's the best pure pocket passer ever.

(Don't flame me because I went against Elway. He's my #2)

That right there is the honest truth.

But how do we go about defining who's best? I mean, Brady has perfected areas of his game whereas Manning is not as good, but if we're talking overall, Manning is the better candidate.

Same deal with Montana and Elway. Overall, all bias aside, Elway is the better candidate. Imho, Manning and Elway are the two greatest if you look at pure talent and skill set. I'm not even gonna guess how many rings they would have with the kinda roster Montana had during his run in SF.

I misplaced my vote btw, it's on Brady but should have been on Manning.

[ERoyal248]

john, jc is right, you can't do it alone.

And i'd take Peyton, he does more with less every year, guy is amazing.

[jcdavey]

Yeah you can't get out of that one

there's nothing to get out of

there's no I in team, therefore it's stupid to act as if there is

[johnlimburg]

well you were stupid

no one player does it all by himself

that's very stupid to say

Yeah you can't get out of that one

[jcdavey]

well you were stupid

no one player does it all by himself

that's very stupid to say

[johnlimburg]

no, i don't , find that post for me

it's apparent though that they had no backup plan

also if you watched the bengals colts game you see how the wr throws the ball away on purpose at the end of the game

that team is clearly losing games on purpose (not that saints game though, that was just new orleans committing a hate crime lol)

Yes they have put all of their eggs into the basket and had no backup. I don't think they are tanking. They just flat out suck. They are not losing on purpose.

Here is the posts:

I said:

Example 1: Peyton Manning. He does it every year all by himself. Worst team then the Chargers. If Rivers name gets thrown around his he had to lead that Chargers team to the playoffs.

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showpost.php?p=3818744&postcount=58

You said:

possibly the stupidest thing you've ever said

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showpost.php?p=3818746&postcount=59

You said:

i hate to have to channel the miz on you but


by himself?

really?

reallly?

really?






really??

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showpost.php?p=3818752&postcount=61

I said:

So you are saying what I said is stupid because Manning doesn't do it by himself in Indy. Well if you ask me and a hell of a lot of other people they will say that team without Manning is a 4 win team. Yes I am assuming that but they are a bad football team and without Manning they are not a regular playoff team year in year out. I still think a few other not elite QB's could have racked up close to 9 wins in San Diego.

I would hardly call that stupid.

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showpost.php?p=3818753&postcount=62

You said:

i would call it stupid...

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showpost.php?p=3818754&postcount=63

I said:

No offense buddy but you do not explain yourself. It is not stupid. It is the truth. It is the way a lot of people feel. I suppose they are all stupid. Rivers couldn't lead a good team to the playoffs but I said he gets a past because he is elite. However in order for him to be able to be considered with the top guys like Manning he should lead his team there. A team which is much better than the Colts.

And good work on explaining yourself. Great points. Throwing out the stupid tag when you can't explain why it is stupid. Good work

http://forums.denverbroncos.com/showpost.php?p=3818755&postcount=64

HOW FUNNY IS THAT. STILL THINK IT IS STUPID

[getlynched47]

I stand by my opinion that Peyton Manning is the best quarterback in the history of the NFL. I don't think I've ever seen/will ever see a cerebral QB that has the type of throw velocity, accuracy, and pocket presence that Peyton Manning has. He's the best pure pocket passer ever.

(Don't flame me because I went against Elway. He's my #2)