Sources: Browns to hire an offensive coordinator!!!

[Charlie Brown]

Wow, this is absolutely amazing!

Just what the Browns need - an offensive coordinator.

I thought having Shurmur as Head Coach was OFFENSIVE enough.

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Despite statements to the contrary, the Cleveland Browns intend to hire an offensive coordinator to allow Pat Shurmur to put more focus on his head coaching duties in 2012, according to team sources.

Previously, Browns president Mike Holmgren stated he preferred Shurmur serve as head coach and offensive coordinator -- as he has done in his first season -- but Shurmur himself would like to add a coordinator, sources said.

Former Vikings coach Brad Childress, who sat out this season after being fired by Minnesota during the 2010 season, is among the candidates that have been discussed by the Browns. However, the team is also seriously evaluating other candidates with roots in the West Coast offense.

While sources originally identified Childress as a leading candidate because he was the Philadelphia Eagles' offensive coordinator for seven years when Shurmur was Philadelphia's quarterbacks coach, other sources said the organization likely will select from a different pool of candidates.

Shurmur is struggling through his first season as a head coach after spending the past two seasons as St. Louis' offensive coordinator. Entering play Sunday, the Browns (4-11) had the 29th ranked offense and are averaging just 13.9 points per game, which is 30th overall.

[JayJack]

Wow, this is absolutely amazing!

Just what the Browns need - an offensive coordinator.

I thought having Shurmur as Head Coach was OFFENSIVE enough.

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Despite statements to the contrary, the Cleveland Browns intend to hire an offensive coordinator to allow Pat Shurmur to put more focus on his head coaching duties in 2012, according to team sources.

Previously, Browns president Mike Holmgren stated he preferred Shurmur serve as head coach and offensive coordinator -- as he has done in his first season -- but Shurmur himself would like to add a coordinator, sources said.

Former Vikings coach Brad Childress, who sat out this season after being fired by Minnesota during the 2010 season, is among the candidates that have been discussed by the Browns. However, the team is also seriously evaluating other candidates with roots in the West Coast offense.

While sources originally identified Childress as a leading candidate because he was the Philadelphia Eagles' offensive coordinator for seven years when Shurmur was Philadelphia's quarterbacks coach, other sources said the organization likely will select from a different pool of candidates.

Shurmur is struggling through his first season as a head coach after spending the past two seasons as St. Louis' offensive coordinator. Entering play Sunday, the Browns (4-11) had the 29th ranked offense and are averaging just 13.9 points per game, which is 30th overall.

I was just about to post this. It's the same thing I was telling you earlier this morning. Holmgrem is a West Coast Offense person to his heart. Matt Flynn will be a UFA who has been in the WCO for 4yrs now. I fully expect Holmgrem to go after Flynn in the offseason.

By the way. It's 2 minutes left in the 3rd qtr and Flynn is 23-34, 361yds, 4tds, and 1 int. Not bad, not bad at all.

[Charlie Brown]

I was just about to post this. It's the same thing I was telling you earlier this morning. Holmgrem is a West Coast Offense person to his heart. Matt Flynn will be a UFA who has been in the WCO for 4yrs now. I fully expect Holmgrem to go after Flynn in the offseason.

By the way. It's 2 minutes left in the 3rd qtr and Flynn is 23-34, 361yds, 4tds, and 1 int. Not bad, not bad at all.

Oh, wow, so since this Flynn guy can do that with an amazing offensive line, amazing recievers, and amazing coaches in Green Bay, that means he most certainly will be able to do that with a horrible offensive line, horrible recievers, and the worst coaches in the NFL while playing against 3 of the top top defenses in the NFL twice a year?

[JayJack]

Oh, wow, so since this Flynn guy can do that with an amazing offensive line, amazing recievers, and amazing coaches in Green Bay, that means he most certainly will be able to do that with a horrible offensive line, horrible recievers, and the worst coaches in the NFL while playing against 3 of the top top defenses in the NFL twice a year?

I'm not saying that at all. All i'm saying is Holmgrem is going to target Flynn hard because of his background. If it's me, i'm signing Flynn and keeping my draft picks to address the areas you spoke of. No matter what, I don't think McCoy is the QB for y'all.

[Charlie Brown]

I'm not saying that at all. All i'm saying is Holmgrem is going to target Flynn hard because of his background. If it's me, i'm signing Flynn and keeping my draft picks to address the areas you spoke of. No matter what, I don't think McCoy is the QB for y'all.

Shurmur is the head coach, not Holmgren.

The media and other fans like to talk all about Holmgren.

Holmgren this, Holmgren that, Holmgren, Holmgren, Holmgren.

Since you are a Broncos fan - let's put it in the Broncos analogy.

"John Elway likes Stanford, so the Broncos will sign a QB from Stanford."

Why? Because John Elway is the Team President!

The Broncos won't go after a QB from Stanford - Elway is not the head coach nor is he the GM. He is the Team President. Elway is not going to go and coach the Broncos - he's the team President.

Holmgren is the same with the Browns. He is the team president. Holmgren does not coach the team - Pat Shurmur "the Shurmurnator" does.

The Browns are a complete JOKE. Shurmur is a complete JOKE. If Holmgren was angy good, he would fire Shurmur and step in as coach - like the media pretends he is. But, NOOOO - he's the team president and Shurmur is the head coach. The "West Coast Offense" that the Browns run is pass, pass, pass. That is how the team is. Like last week, the Browns had the ball at the Ravens 5 yard line down by several scores. What do they do? They throw, throw, throw, then on fourth down they finally run. Of course it wasn't a five yard gain and was stopped at the line of scrimage.

[JayJack]

I may be wrong in my thinking, but I believe that Elway, VP and Holmgrem, President, will have the ultimate say so if they want too. If not, they can be highly influencial.

Last time I checked, neither the coach or GM hires the President. So I don't think that it's far fetched to think that Holmgrem wouldn't make a roster decision.

I'm pretty sure you look at ESPN, NFL Network or anything else that's sports related. During this hole Tebow deal, what have you heard? ELWAY is going to get him a QB, ELWAY knows that Tebow isn't the future, ELWAY will not go another year with this kind of QB play. Not one time did you hear anybody mention what GM BRIAN XANDERS think. Elway and Holmgrem can override any decision they want.

[Charlie Brown]

I may be wrong in my thinking, but I believe that Elway, VP and Holmgrem, President, will have the ultimate say so if they want too. If not, they can be highly influencial.

Last time I checked, neither the coach or GM hires the President. So I don't think that it's far fetched to think that Holmgrem wouldn't make a roster decision.

I'm pretty sure you look at ESPN, NFL Network or anything else that's sports related. During this hole Tebow deal, what have you heard? ELWAY is going to get him a QB, ELWAY knows that Tebow isn't the future, ELWAY will not go another year with this kind of QB play. Not one time did you hear anybody mention what GM BRIAN XANDERS think. Elway and Holmgrem can override any decision they want.

They could, but does that mean they do?

Either way, Holmgren is an idiot for signing Shurmur and giving him control of the team. He is a horrible coach and he is destroying the team - the team is a complete joke. When Mangini and Crennel were there - they actually had the team competetive and heading in the right direction.

What does Holmgren do? He brings in wonderboy Shurmur to destroy everything Crennel and Mangini built. Now we get the 99' Browns all over again. That is how terrible the team is - it is an "expansion season" all over again except Shurmur's Browns don't get the first overall pick - even if they did get it, they would still waste it.

[ElwayAttack]

Maybe they'll be interested in the genious known as Mike McCoy.

[thatkidhunt]

Maybe they'll be interested in the genious known as Mike McCoy.

You beat me to it.



You want McCoy Charlie? We'll pay you to take him.......

[Charlie Brown]

You beat me to it.



You want McCoy Charlie? We'll pay you to take him.......

He would be a slight improvement over the idiot running things now.

I'm not looking for a slight improvement.

I'm looking for a massive improvement - which would only happen if the front office cleans house once again.

[roushmartin6]

He would be a slight improvement over the idiot running things now.

I'm not looking for a slight improvement.

I'm looking for a massive improvement - which would only happen if the front office cleans house once again.

I wouldn't wish McCoy upon you guys, you have had it hard enough. He would look nice in Steelers colors though

[Charlie Brown]

I wouldn't wish McCoy upon you guys, you have had it hard enough. He would look nice in Steelers colors though

Steelers offensive coordinator is the Browns former offensive coordinator.

Bruce Arians

He was ridden out of Cleveland during the Butch Davis years - he and Davis were two peas in a pod.

Now, everyone raves about him and says he is going to be the next "head coach" somewhere.

The Browns head coach is absolutely horrible. Hiring an offensive coordinator isn't going to make the Browns any less offensive. As bad as McCoy (your offensive coordinator - not the QB) is, he isn't as bad as Shurmur nor as bad as the yes man they are looking for.

As I said above, the Browns need a drastic change everywhere in order to be back on the level they should be. Hiring an offensive coordinator won't fix that. Getting rid of the entire coaching staff and front office, however, is the drastic change that the team needs.

[JayJack]

Coach Pat Shurmur refused to commit to Colt McCoy as his 2012 starter in Tuesday's season-ending press conference.
Shurmur did suggest that an offensive coordinator would be hired if the right person is available, but LT Joe Thomas and CB Joe Haden are the only players not facing competition for their jobs in 2012. "I expect Colt will improve, just as I expect Seneca (Wallace) will improve and whoever the quarterbacks are here. ... The best quarterback will play when we start the season." Related: Seneca Wallace

Source: Akron Beacon-Journal Jan 3 - 4:45 PM

[Charlie Brown]

Coach Pat Shurmur refused to commit to Colt McCoy as his 2012 starter in Tuesday's season-ending press conference.
Shurmur did suggest that an offensive coordinator would be hired if the right person is available, but LT Joe Thomas and CB Joe Haden are the only players not facing competition for their jobs in 2012. "I expect Colt will improve, just as I expect Seneca (Wallace) will improve and whoever the quarterbacks are here. ... The best quarterback will play when we start the season." Related: Seneca Wallace

Source: Akron Beacon-Journal Jan 3 - 4:45 PM

That is the media reading into a statement.

Shurmur did not say ANYWHERE that he is after a new quarterback.

What he said is that he expects every QB to improve after being in his system for a season. Guess what? This past season, before it started, McCoy was unfamiliar with Shurmur's system. That was due to something called a Lockout. I'm sure you heard about it...

Now, this offseason there will be no lockout. So, McCoy will take this season and this offseason to improve his understanding of Shurmur's system.

[Charlie Brown]

I was just about to post this. It's the same thing I was telling you earlier this morning. Holmgrem is a West Coast Offense person to his heart. Matt Flynn will be a UFA who has been in the WCO for 4yrs now. I fully expect Holmgrem to go after Flynn in the offseason.

By the way. It's 2 minutes left in the 3rd qtr and Flynn is 23-34, 361yds, 4tds, and 1 int. Not bad, not bad at all.

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Browns not looking to add free-agent QB

The Browns made it clear earlier this week that Colt McCoy will have to win a quarterback battle to be the team's starting quarterback. Now, it appears that any quarterback added to the competition will come from the draft.

Browns president Mike Holmgren was asked today by Cleveland reporters if the team would sign a quarterback in free agency.

"That's probably not the way we'll go about it," Holmgren said, via The Cleveland Plain Dealer. "You never know. There are a few guys in the league who have started and will be free agents. We're going to look at them. We'll evaluate all of them."

When asked indirectly about Packers backup Matt Flynn, who threw for six touchdowns in the season finale and will become a free agent this offseason, Holmgren said, "I think when you go into your second start and you break (a Packers') record, yeah, that's a little unusual. But we can't comment on players with other teams."

Holmgren said he thinks McCoy "could be" a franchise quarterback, but isn't ready to say that yet.

"Was I pleased? Yeah, in a lot of the stuff he did," Holmgren said. "My opinion of Colt has not changed. I think he has a lot of intangibles. Ultimately, though, as with not only the quarterback position but every position, you’re kind of judged on how well your team did. I’m not ready to anoint Colt yet."