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  • New Orleans Saints Defense maintained a BOUNTY PROGRAM!!

    Per Adam Schefter. Details to follow:

    Originally posted by Adam Schefter
    NFL security determined between 22 and 27 defensive players on the Saints, as well as at least one assistant coach, maintained a bounty program.

    Investigation reviewed 18,000 documents totaling more than 50,000 pages. Commissioner Goodell will determine the discipline.

    NFL determined that former Saints DC Gregg Williams administered the program with knowledge of other defensive coaches.

    Discipline for the Saints could include fines, suspensions, and forfeiture of draft choices.

    NFL investigation of Saints began in 2010 when allegations were made that Saints targeted QBs such as Brett Favre and Kurt Warner.
    Bounty program= Defensive players would be rewarded with incentives for injuring and/or knocking out a specified player on the opposing team.
    Last edited by getlynched47; 03-02-2012, 12:06 PM.


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  • #2
    That is absolutely ridiculous and disgusting

    Saints just went from one of the teams I like to trash

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    • #3
      I remeber when Marty and the Chefs did that on our first SuperBowl run in 1997/98, It happens all the time....
      "January 25, 1998: The night God answered our prayers

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      • #4
        Oh my, ...

        ... what about just helmet stickers?

        NFL probably wouldn't want that either.
        "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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        • #5
          One of the best steaks I've ever had was from a bounty, although I didn't intentionally hurt anyone it just worked out that way.
          What's the difference between ignorance and apathy?
          I don't know and I don't care

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          • #6
            Dennis Allen could be involved in this scheme.
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            • #7
              i'll post the same thing here , that i did on the pats board

              i don't have a problem with bounties, unless part of the bounty system rewards injuring opposing players, then i think that's sub human, for a game.

              now if it's against the nfl rules, then obviously it should be punished

              you can't break the rules.


              i'll add something to it though, this is ironic to me because they got their qb (brees) because he got injured....however the injury brees suffered was on a completely legit football play

              still though, there's some irony there i think
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              • #8
                i don't think bounty necessarily means injury

                like was mentioned, colleges have their own bounty system, stickers for good plays


                if the bounty system was simply for hurries, ints, sacks and hits, that's fine with me

                if it's not fine with the nfl though, then they should be fined

                but non injury bounties, i have no real issue with
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                • #9
                  colts fans must be pissed, losing to a team who was cheating at the time
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                  • #10
                    if intent to injure rumors are true, this is bigger than spygate

                    i can imagine brees may want to jump ship now
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by jcdavey View Post
                      colts fans must be pissed, losing to a team who was cheating at the time
                      Lmfao.... Hope you're being sarcastic right now.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by jcdavey View Post
                        i don't think bounty necessarily means injury

                        like was mentioned, colleges have their own bounty system, stickers for good plays


                        if the bounty system was simply for hurries, ints, sacks and hits, that's fine with me

                        if it's not fine with the nfl though, then they should be fined

                        but non injury bounties, i have no real issue with
                        I'm hearing $1,000 for a "cart off injuries" and $1,500 for "knockouts."

                        This is absolutely terrible SMH....

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                        • #13
                          It probably occurs more often then we would like to think.....still is disgusting. You would like to think the moral/ethical code of someone would prevent this, and that may be why this came to light.
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                          • #14
                            Interesting tweets.

                            Pat Kirwan
                            There could be lawsuits to follow by players injured in games against the Saints during the 2009-11 seasons.Lawers have been texting me.

                            Chris Harris (DET Safety)
                            doesn't surprise me Everyone does it they're just the ones who got caught. part of the NFL culture





                            Here's the news article from NFL.com --


                            After a lengthy investigation conducted by the NFL's security department, the league announced Friday that 22 to 27 defensive players on the New Orleans Saints maintained a "pay for performance" program that included "bounty" payments administered by then-defensive coordinator Gregg Williams during the 2009, 2010 and 2011 seasons.

                            The program runs in violation of league rules, and the investigation showed that Saints players received $1,500 for a “knockout” hit and $1,000 for a “cart-off” hit with payouts doubling or tripling during the team's three playoff appearances. The program entailed payments for interceptions and fumble recoveries, which also violates league rules against non-contract bonuses. NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell will determine the appropriate discipline based on the investigation, the league said in a statement.

                            "The payments here are particularly troubling because they involved not just payments for ‘performance,’ but also for injuring opposing players,” Goodell said in a statement released by the league. “The bounty rule promotes two key elements of NFL football: player safety and competitive integrity.

                            “It is our responsibility to protect player safety and the integrity of our game, and this type of conduct will not be tolerated. We have made significant progress in changing the culture with respect to player safety and we are not going to relent. We have more work to do and we will do it.”


                            Goodell said the investigation began in 2010 after allegations were made that the Saints defenders had targeted Arizona Cardinals quarterback Kurt Warner and Minnesota Vikings quarterback Brett Favre during New Orleans' 2009 run to the Super Bowl.

                            "Our security department interviewed numerous players and other individuals," Goodell said. "At the time, those interviewed denied that any such program existed and the player that made the allegation retracted his earlier assertions. As a result, the allegations could not be proven. We recently received significant and credible new information and the investigation was re-opened during the latter part of the 2011 season.”

                            The investigation found the program was funded primarily by players and at one time might have reached $50,000. The league also said that other defensive coaches in addition to Williams, now the St. Louis Rams defensive coordinator, were aware of the program.

                            "I want to express my sincere regret and apology to the NFL, (Saints owner Tom) Benson, and the New Orleans Saints fans for my participation in the 'pay for performance' program while I was with the Saints," Williams said in a statement released by the Rams. "It was a terrible mistake, and we knew it was wrong while we were doing it. Instead of getting caught up in it, I should have stopped it. I take full responsibility for my role. I am truly sorry. I have learned a hard lesson and I guarantee that I will never participate in or allow this kind of activity to happen again."

                            The report found that Saints head coach Sean Payton was aware of the allegations but did not make any inquires and failed to stop the program. The league also said that general manager Mickey Loomis at one time was directed to end the program once Benson was made aware of the league's findings, but he did not carry out Benson's directions.


                            "I have been made aware of the NFL’s findings relative to the 'Bounty Rule' and how it relates to our club," Benson said in a statement. "I have offered and the NFL has received our full cooperation in their investigation. While the findings may be troubling, we look forward to putting this behind us and winning more championships in the future for our fans."

                            The Saints have gained a reputation in league circles as a dirty team in recent years, and Vikings running back Adrian Peterson said this past season that the Saints targeted his high left ankle sprain.

                            "I felt like it kind of got overboard," Peterson said at the time. "I got up and kind of got in his face. Thank God I was able to keep my composure."

                            The Saints denied Peterson's claims.
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                            • #15
                              i hear james harrison is requesting a trade to the saints now.

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