Chicago Bears V Indianapolis Colts

[Mann fan]

Go Indianapolis and

[ERoyal248]

Don't forget too about that Kevin Walter stud. Your D made him look better than
Jerry Rice, LOL.

Same can be said with Clay Matthews.

4.5 sacks, LOL!!

[bears6385]

You beat the Rams and Colts, a combined 4-28 last year. Break out the Champagne!!!

That was last year.............both Colts and Rams have improved, esp. the Rams. Rams got Bradford back healthy and those corners Finnegan and the rookie Jenkins are very good. Rams under Fisher are a good young team on the way back.

[344051]

Same can be said with Clay Matthews.

4.5 sacks, LOL!!

Just one problem with your logic. Clay Matthews IS A STUD!!!! He's one of the best players in the league I might add. Kevin Walter is just another common WR that the Broncos turned into Jerry Rice II. It says a lot about your inept D.

[johnlimburg]

I agree somewhat........The line play was horrible in the first quarter, but after that they played very well. Jay was sacked twice, but the first sack was on Davis out TE. Carimi looked like he needed to knock off some rust today, Webb actually looked good, Lewis opened some holes esp. in the second half, Garza is still solid at 33, and Spencer is ok, nothing special. If the three young guys on this line continue to improve as the season goes on Cutler will have a monster year.

They have not looked great. It is still the biggest problem with the team. I think the Bears will still be a competitive team this season however they need to invest in the o line in the 2013 NFL draft. I think if they do that they will be a force next year.

The surgery that Peyton Manning underwent was a cervical spine fusion. The scariest injuries in football involve the neck and the back. Why risk further injury? In all reality, Manning should retire after a very successful NFL career.

I did say they had problems with Freeney. I did say the play action didn't work well. I did say they need a better left tackle. The line was solid after Freeney left the game. To compare Decker or Thomas with Marshall is a joke. Neither one will ever be as good as Marshall. As for Peyton Manning, I hope he doesn't get hurt but he's an absolute fool for continuing to play football. He's very rich and already has a ring. We're not talking shoulder, or knee, or foot. We're talking neck injury. This fool needs to hang it up before he ends up with some real damage. Just my opinion. Not a knock on you. Don't take it personally. If I'm in his position, I would have retired from the game. Many good players have left the game for this type of reason...Sterling Sharpe of the Packers for example.

He has looked pretty good and no where near done. He has been our best player as expected and has made us a better team. Offensively we still need to get better but Peyton is no way the problem. And he has taken numerous big shots now and it is no problem. And I think Thomas can be as good as Marshall if not better. He is so explosive and is showing he can be great in the future.

[344051]

They have not looked great. It is still the biggest problem with the team. I think the Bears will still be a competitive team this season however they need to invest in the o line in the 2013 NFL draft. I think if they do that they will be a force next year.



He has looked pretty good and no where near done. He has been our best player as expected and has made us a better team. Offensively we still need to get better but Peyton is no way the problem. And he has taken numerous big shots now and it is no problem. And I think Thomas can be as good as Marshall if not better. He is so explosive and is showing he can be great in the future.

I agree that Peyton Manning has looked good. But you are missing the point. The point is really.....should he hang it up? Not because he plays bad but because he has had several neck surgeries and for no other reason. Just saying. He already has a ring and a lot of money. Why risk your health? It's not smart. As a fan, I want to see him play too but that's not that point at all. I'm just saying what is the right thing to do? The smart thing to do? Risk even a more serious injury that could bother him for the rest of his life? Do you see my point now?

[ERoyal248]

I agree that Peyton Manning has looked good. But you are missing the point. The point is really.....should he hang it up? Not because he plays bad but because he has had several neck surgeries and for no other reason. Just saying. He already has a ring and a lot of money. Why risk your health? It's not smart. As a fan, I want to see him play too but that's not that point at all. I'm just saying what is the right thing to do? The smart thing to do? Risk even a more serious injury that could bother him for the rest of his life? Do you see my point now?

Should Brady hang it up, he has more rings, SB's, etc.

And his neck is fusionally stronger then it once was, he's got as good of a shot to get hurt as any other QB. He'll hang it up when he thinks it is time.

[344051]

Should Brady hang it up, he has more rings, SB's, etc.

And his neck is fusionally stronger then it once was, he's got as good of a shot to get hurt as any other QB. He'll hang it up when he thinks it is time.

ERoyal,

If you read my post, then you will understand why I don't have the same feeling about Tom Brady. It's not so much about the past success as it is the 4 neck surgeries. Brady has no neck surgeries. So the question doesn't even come up for him.

Per your comment.....And his neck is fusionally stronger......but that doesn't preclude Manning from having a disk problem in another level of his spine. That can occur. It's called adjacent segment degeneration.

You're a fan and I understand why you would want him to play. It won't affect you 20 years from now. I'm asking the very legitimate question of whether Manning should continue to play and I'm asking it from Peyton Manning's point of view, not from a fan's point of view.

[johnlimburg]

I agree that Peyton Manning has looked good. But you are missing the point. The point is really.....should he hang it up? Not because he plays bad but because he has had several neck surgeries and for no other reason. Just saying. He already has a ring and a lot of money. Why risk your health? It's not smart. As a fan, I want to see him play too but that's not that point at all. I'm just saying what is the right thing to do? The smart thing to do? Risk even a more serious injury that could bother him for the rest of his life? Do you see my point now?

I understand what you are saying. However that his choice and if he feels good to go then great. I am so glad he is here. Because that means the Denver Broncos have a real shot at going some where and we could get rid of the last guy with not to much complaining from the brainwashed fan base.

And I am no expert on neck injuries and didn't do any research into the Manning injury. However I have heard some people say his neck is no stronger then before. So if that is the case maybe Peyton had this infomation from informed knowledgable specialists and doctors making him feel safe to go back onto the field.

[ERoyal248]

ERoyal,

If you read my post, then you will understand why I don't have the same feeling about Tom Brady. It's not so much about the past success as it is the 4 neck surgeries. Brady has no neck surgeries. So the question doesn't even come up for him.

Per your comment.....And his neck is fusionally stronger......but that doesn't preclude Manning from having a disk problem in another level of his spine. That can occur. It's called adjacent segment degeneration.

You're a fan and I understand why you would want him to play. It won't affect you 20 years from now. I'm asking the very legitimate question of whether Manning should continue to play and I'm asking it from Peyton Manning's point of view, not from a fan's point of view.

I've had this conversation with a few people.

He wouldn't be playing if it would severely hurt him. He's taking many hits, and has gotten right back up just fine. I understand what you mean though.

[ERoyal248]

You're forgetting that we had Martz who causes all offensive lines to look bad. He is no longer with the team.
You also want to ignore the fact that the top pick was injured. We could use a better left tackle, that is about all.
By the way...Bears 34 and Colts 21. The line must be doing something good.

LOL, Bears OL is atrocious....