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  • HUMCALC
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    WSH needs to draft some YOUNG, explosive WRs, and fix the D some more & they'll be a contender next year

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  • Sophia23
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    I think Shanahan can be a little too predictable at times, but with RG3 as his QB and a healthy team I imagine he'll be right back in the wins over the next couple years.

    I always liked him in Denver, and was sad when he left originally

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  • ERoyal248
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    Originally posted by AC1 View Post
    Shanahan will have this team as a championship contender in two years.
    I doubt it.

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  • AC1
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    Originally posted by assassin216 View Post
    Its amazing how people are making excuses for him,because if this was a player saying the exact thing...people on this board would be crucifying him....

    And for the people that says he has no team,he's the one who pick those players...I mean really how can you defend a guy that hand picked those players and then turn around and say the team sucks...I dont understand that logic,this is the reason why he was let go in Denver,because his evaluation of talent is bad......If this was any other coach,everybody would be saying he needs to go and etc,but since this is Mike Shannahan,he gets a pass even though he pick those bad players....
    Well, guys like Shanahan, Fisher or Belichick will get the benefit of the doubt. Shanahan has earned a reputation over many, many years of not being a quitter.


    Originally posted by MileHighStud View Post
    He never was the Coach he once "was".
    Sure, and John Elway wasn't that great, neither was Terrell Davis, right?

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  • beastlyskronk
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    Originally posted by assassin216 View Post
    I understand that but people are giving him a pass,what he said....Can you imagine if a player said the same exact thing alot of members would be killing him....On top of that people act like Shannhan didnt put that team together....

    All season people been talking about how bad the defense been but everyone wants to say "He dont have a good defense",well he's the one who hand picked the players...they should blame him,instead of acting like those players came on the team out of nowhere....
    If a coach like Shanahan says this, it's a motivational tactic to get his team to play harder. He's not giving up on the season at all, there's certain players he has that he either thinks or knows aren't trying as hard as they can so by saying this he's trying to indirectly challenge them to play every play as hard as they can.

    Also the team really isn't that bad. They're solid all the way through, they just have huge injuries to key positions. Playing without your starting Safeties is hard in the NFL especially when Shanahan hasn't been there long enough to establish the depth he really needs. He lost his best pass rusher in Orakpo and it's really hindered Kerrigan on the other side. He's got Perry Riley playing really well, Rob Jackson looks like another good ILB once the ageless London Fletcher retires. CB isn't a weakness over there either. Hall, Griffin, Wilson, and Crawford is a pretty good group and still fairly young. That secondary would look great with Merriweather, Jackson, and Orakpo all playing.

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  • Orangeisback
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    The worst thing the Redskins could do is get rid of Shanahan and turn him into Alex Smith. Meaning, Alex Smith has just had for the first time in his career, the same OC for 2 straight years.

    The Redskins have not had Garcon, Fred Davis is out and now Santana Moss. Shanahan has discovered yet another RB that is also in the running for ROY.

    Then the Redskins defense. They were top 10 when they were fully healthy last year and they have had serious injuries this year. Carriker and Orakpo are possibly their best defenders and their main problem has been a lack of pressure. QBs have had too much time and that is why they are getting burned in the secondary.

    Of their 6 losses, 3 are directly realted to their defensive ineptitude.

    It is clear watching them play that they are very innovative and really know to utilize ALL of the RGIII's strengths. Although they need to stop exposing him to the big hits. That is just stupid.


    Bottom line is he needs to have a few years developing RGIII. If they improve their defense with players coming back. FA, and the draft will help.

    Plus, Shanahan never said he was giving up on the season, but when you are 3-6, and certain players are not giving great effort it is worth reminding them that they SHOULD NOT give up on the season.

    Everyone hears what they hear. Miscommunication or mis-interpreting is our society's biggest problem.
    Last edited by Orangeisback; 11-07-2012, 04:02 AM.

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  • MileHighStud
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    Originally posted by mojo0730 View Post
    b) he's nowhere near the coach he once was.
    He never was the Coach he once "was".

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  • assassin216
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    Originally posted by PhoenixDread View Post
    The guy has lost some really good players to injury. Call it what you want but if you lose some of your best players to injury, your chances of being successful are quite low. If doom and miller went down, you think our defense wouldn't suffer as a result?
    I understand that but people are giving him a pass,what he said....Can you imagine if a player said the same exact thing alot of members would be killing him....On top of that people act like Shannhan didnt put that team together....

    All season people been talking about how bad the defense been but everyone wants to say "He dont have a good defense",well he's the one who hand picked the players...they should blame him,instead of acting like those players came on the team out of nowhere....

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  • PhoenixDread
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    Originally posted by assassin216 View Post
    Its amazing how people are making excuses for him,because if this was a player saying the exact thing...people on this board would be crucifying him....

    And for the people that says he has no team,he's the one who pick those players...I mean really how can you defend a guy that hand picked those players and then turn around and say the team sucks...I dont understand that logic,this is the reason why he was let go in Denver,because his evaluation of talent is bad......If this was any other coach,everybody would be saying he needs to go and etc,but since this is Mike Shannahan,he gets a pass even though he pick those bad players....
    The guy has lost some really good players to injury. Call it what you want but if you lose some of your best players to injury, your chances of being successful are quite low. If doom and miller went down, you think our defense wouldn't suffer as a result?

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  • assassin216
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    Its amazing how people are making excuses for him,because if this was a player saying the exact thing...people on this board would be crucifying him....

    And for the people that says he has no team,he's the one who pick those players...I mean really how can you defend a guy that hand picked those players and then turn around and say the team sucks...I dont understand that logic,this is the reason why he was let go in Denver,because his evaluation of talent is bad......If this was any other coach,everybody would be saying he needs to go and etc,but since this is Mike Shannahan,he gets a pass even though he pick those bad players....

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  • nic.zeman24
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    They have no targets for their QB and 2 of their best defenders are out for the year

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  • AC1
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    Originally posted by Al Wilson 4 Mayor View Post
    I think Shanny will get one more year. I think Snyder would be lacking in wisdom if he took Shanny away from RG3 at the end of this year.
    No doubt. The other wrinkle is by firing Mike Shanahan, they will also end up losing Kyle Shanahan, who is one of the brightest young offensive minds in the league today. They are set for the next decade IMO with Shanahan Sr. calling the shots for the next few years and his son taking over from him and continuing that rapport with the franchise QB. Continuity and stability are huge in the NFL.

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  • Al Wilson 4 Mayor
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    I think Shanny will get one more year. I think Snyder would be lacking in wisdom if he took Shanny away from RG3 at the end of this year.

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  • AC1
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    Originally posted by the0rangecrush View Post
    he has time right now to build it. With RG3 being a rookie, he will have 2 more years to build a contender. Unfortunately, he has little in terms of draft picks and is one RG3 injury from people questioning if its time for him to go.
    They have plenty of draft picks. Not having a first-rounder is only a hindrance if you don't have your key positions (QB, LT, pass-rusher) not addressed. The needs that Washington has are mainly in the secondary, which can easily be addressed in the second round and lower.

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  • AC1
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    Originally posted by PhoenixDread View Post
    Well he did lose his top two defenders. Can't say it's his fault the defense is bad when he doesn't really have any impact players anymore.
    Exactly. Not only his top two defenders, but his top two pass-catchers as well, on a young team with a rookie QB. Shanahan will have this team as a championship contender in two years. They have an extremely good front 7, a typically strong running game. They need to improve their secondary, get another pass-catcher for RG3 (that Garcon signing was looking really good before he got hurt) and let the young QB develop in the system. He doesn't need first-round picks for this.

    I know a few Giants fans. Let's just say Tuck is not the only one who's pissed about having to deal with Washington for the next decade.

    As beastlyskronk said, Shanahan is the perfect coach for RG3 (or any rookie QB for that matter). Washington has a great setup in place. They have the key positions (QB, LT, pass-rushers) nailed down. They have one of the best coaches in the league. All they need now is for Snyder to shut up, stay out of the way and not pull a Bowlen.

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