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*Sigh* How was the NFL, or any sport for that matter, suppose to know the effects concussions could have on you long term. They couldn't, there wasn't any information on it. These players knew the risks when they signed up. A lot of these guys are ones that blew all their money and are just trying to get a piece of the pie. Some really do have problems, but its risk vs reward.
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*Sigh* How was the NFL, or any sport for that matter, suppose to know the effects concussions could have on you long term. They couldn't, there wasn't any information on it. These players knew the risks when they signed up. A lot of these guys are ones that blew all their money and are just trying to get a piece of the pie. Some really do have problems, but its risk vs reward.
Yeah I agree.
I think for some of these guys the well is starting to dry out. You know the risks of the physical game when you sign up.
I feel for these still young men having these serious issues. That being said, I can only think that all these lawsuits are nothing but a money grab in a litigious era. I can't help but feel they are taking advantage of the hot button topic of concussions.
Yeah, this has nothing to do with the fact he owes more than a half-million dollars in back taxes, and his sprawling home in Blue Springs, Mo., was foreclosed upon in 2007.
Dude is broke, and it was probably some sleazbag lawyer that said "hey, I'll represent you for free (minus my 60% of any monies received) and we'll get you some cash from the big bad NFL.
Dude made more money than I will ever make in my life, and has the balls to spend it all and want more, and use concussions as an excuse.
While I think the NFL should have to pay if they truly did commit fraud and negligence, the players have to take some of the blame as well.
These guys knew they weren't fit to go back out and play and didn't speak up.
They decided that playing football was more important than taking a stand for their health.
It doesn't matter that refusing to play through the symptoms would have put their careers in jeopardy, they put their lives in jeopardy by continuing to play when they shouldn't have.
You're Wrong! Recognize That You're Wrong!
Move On
I would be absolutely shocked if the players don't sign something saying that they know football is a dangerous sport and that they are aware that it could cause serious bodily injury or death.
Players now days know the risks of concussions and it won't be an issue with lawsuits going forward. The issue at hand is the NFL had NFL issued doctors lie about the risks of concussions and medical knowledge in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Those are the players that are all going to hammer the NFL and if it is found that the league knew of the risks but chose not to inform players then they will be sued for a killing. My issue is the way the league is changing into a flag football game over an issue that is really unpreventable without drastic changes that would alter the game beyond what we have already seen.
Backing Moreno, Ayers, and Smith for 09.
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Players now days know the risks of concussions and it won't be an issue with lawsuits going forward. The issue at hand is the NFL had NFL issued doctors lie about the risks of concussions and medical knowledge in the 70's, 80's, and 90's. Those are the players that are all going to hammer the NFL and if it is found that the league knew of the risks but chose not to inform players then they will be sued for a killing. My issue is the way the league is changing into a flag football game over an issue that is really unpreventable without drastic changes that would alter the game beyond what we have already seen.
They're still learning about the long term risks of concussions, and all of this has come out recently as a result of those findings, so how the hell could they have known in the 70's 80's and 90's?
Obviously this is rhetorical, not meant to be hostile towards you, and not intended for you to have to answer for, I'm just saying. That's horsecrap.
I don't think anyone was ever told, or legitimately thought that your brain rattling around in your head was good for you, and had no effect.
I don't understand how someone can make millions of dollars in the NFL then go broke then sue the NFL to try and get back their lost money. Goes to show why a real college education is a useful thing to get.
I don't understand how someone can make millions of dollars in the NFL then go broke then sue the NFL to try and get back their lost money. Goes to show why a real college education is a useful thing to get.
This.
Smith made a lot of money from the NFL, he knew the risks but took the money anyway.
Players like him are trying to kill this sport. This is why Goodell brings in these safety rules.
*Sigh* How was the NFL, or any sport for that matter, suppose to know the effects concussions could have on you long term. They couldn't, there wasn't any information on it. These players knew the risks when they signed up. A lot of these guys are ones that blew all their money and are just trying to get a piece of the pie. Some really do have problems, but its risk vs reward.
There is compelling evidence the league had an idea of the DANGERS of concussions, maybe not the long term affects. They are certainly culpable.
It's no difference from workers suing a company that installed ASBESTOS.
They're still learning about the long term risks of concussions, and all of this has come out recently as a result of those findings, so how the hell could they have known in the 70's 80's and 90's?
Obviously this is rhetorical, not meant to be hostile towards you, and not intended for you to have to answer for, I'm just saying. That's horsecrap.
I don't think anyone was ever told, or legitimately thought that your brain rattling around in your head was good for you, and had no effect.
It should be common sense that movement of the brain is a bad thing, and I wasn't trying to say that I agree with the accusations the players have made, just wanted to share their reasoning. There have been multiple reports and articles saying that former players and the nflpa have accused the league of covering up head trauma effects and concussion issues.
Imo football should not be changed one bit, a great example is the Cam Chancellor hit on Vernon Davis last week. Great and clean hit, but anytime a receiver is laying on the ground it is an automatic 15 yard penalty because the league is now blowing this thing way out of proportion. Sign a waiver saying you know the risks and are willing to live with it, stop changing the game though.
Backing Moreno, Ayers, and Smith for 09.
Supporting this staff!
Yes, I know my name is outdated, too lazy to care though hah = )
Sign a waiver saying you know the risks and are willing to live with it, stop changing the game though.
So you think it's acceptable to watch and celebrate a sport that in it's current state leads to shorten lifespan, a diminished quality of life for the entertainers?
MOST PEOPLE DON'T. It is morally and ethically reprehensible to ignore such glaring issues with a sport that is PURELY for entertainment,
So you think it's acceptable to watch and celebrate a sport that in it's current state leads to shorten lifespan, a diminished quality of life for the entertainers?
MOST PEOPLE DON'T. It is morally and ethically reprehensible to ignore such glaring issues with a sport that is PURELY for entertainment,
First off, unless your name is Art, and you're trying to be clever, it's Atramentous*
Secondly, if you told every player in the NFL, that if there was a 1 in 2 chance that they would have a shortened lifespan, or a diminished quality of life compared to what they would have if they never played another game, before they sign a contract, I'd bet dollars to donuts that most of them would sign anyway. We're supposed to feel responsible for that in your opinion?
You can make it as safe as you want. You can kill the sport in it's entirety even. You aren't going to stop bad things from happening. Nobody is celebrating shortened lifespans and diminished quality of life, so you can get up off your high horse.
How about all of the people that work manual labor in this country, that will live with shortened lifespans or quality of life issues because of the hazards that come with the territory of the position? Construction workers with back and knee problems. Factory workers with respiratory issues. I guess if you live in a home, you're ignoring the issues as well. I guess since you clearly own a computer or smartphone to post on here, you're complacent in recognizing the issues of working conditions in China.
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