wow @ the ravens - Trading boldin to 49ers.

[hopedawg]

No, I do get it, and you're right, it's rare. (Ihedigbo came as a FA, and only started on ST's, as well. Not saying HOFers, but still...quality)
It's just that Ozzie has a real strong history of finding those overlooked diamonds in the rough, and in Baltimore we're used to 6th rounders coming out of nowhere and playing lights-out.

The sarcastic arrogance of newera's post just rubbed me the wrong way. I like dropping in here from time to time because I respect your team, I love PFM, and there's usually some pretty intelligent football conversation going on.

It's been a little harder to dig for this week with all the hate being spewed over Doom.
I get that, too - I mean, we just lost Ed Reed, but WOW.

[BroncoFanBoy]

Didn't miss that post, just chose to ignore it for its' ignorance. 1%? Really?

Ellerbe, Leach, Tucker, Birk, Ihedigbo.... That's 15% of your SB-winning STARTERS that came in the 7th or as UFDA's.
Meanwhile, the Ravens just essentially traded a second-string benchwarmer (Kruger) for Doom. a compensatory pick, AND $6 million.
Who's laughing now?

Keep underestimating the Ravens and Ozzie Newsome. Please.

But you do see what he's saying, right? There usually aren't players available in the 6th that turn out to be great. Besides, fullbacks like Leach would be since they usually aren't drafted in the higher rounds. Besides, Leach came into the NFL with the Packers. Baltimore signed him as a free agent after 2010.

[hopedawg]

Didn't miss that post, just chose to ignore it for its' ignorance. 1%? Really?

Ellerbe, Leach, Tucker, Birk, Ihedigbo.... That's 15% of your SB-winning STARTERS that came in the 7th or as UFDA's.
Meanwhile, the Ravens just essentially traded a second-string benchwarmer (Kruger) for Doom. a compensatory pick, AND $6 million.
Who's laughing now?

Keep underestimating the Ravens and Ozzie Newsome. Please.

[thenewera44]

Cary Williams was drafted in the 7th, Ellerbe was an undrafted rookie. Both just signed big contracts. Not all talent is found in the first couple rounds - look at the Brady 6.
Pollard's getting cut had nothing to do with his play on the field, apparently it was worth losing money to get rid of him.

http://wnst.net/baltimore-ravens/pollard/

Congrats on the Welker signing! Best FA deal so far - scary good!

Yeah. I referred to this rarity in post #34.

Just to reiterate.

Yeah, I was expecting someone to throw out the Terrell Davis example when I brought up a 6th rounder or maybe Tom Brady.


So let me clarify the comment for people that bring up the 1% chance of landing a Terrell Davis or Tom Brady in the 6th round.


Yeah. a team would have a 1% chance of landing a true impact player in the 6th round.

[hopedawg]

Cary Williams was drafted in the 7th, Ellerbe was an undrafted rookie. Both just signed big contracts. Not all talent is found in the first couple rounds - look at the Brady 6.
Pollard's getting cut had nothing to do with his play on the field, apparently it was worth losing money to get rid of him.

http://wnst.net/baltimore-ravens/pollard/

Congrats on the Welker signing! Best FA deal so far - scary good!

[BroncoFanBoy]

lol yeah i was reading there forums too.. "its cool he sucked anyway"

before playoffs "get rid of flacco, he is the devil of this team"

After a lucky SB run in which his WR's completely bailed him out.. and he got millions "so glad flacco got paid, hes a beast". ..

Cant wait to see next seasons posts.

To add onto this, I saw one mock draft in December on Walter Football that predicting the Ravens drafting a QB with their first round pick.

[Blondie79]

lol yeah i was reading there forums too.. "its cool he sucked anyway"

before playoffs "get rid of flacco, he is the devil of this team"

After a lucky SB run in which his WR's completely bailed him out.. and he got millions "so glad flacco got paid, hes a beast". ..

Cant wait to see nxt seasons posts.

[Peanut]

I took a look at the Ravens' board out of curiosity. The fans are very optimistic considering all that they've lost. It's almost like so-and-so wasn't really that good anyway.

Most of them think we are scary good and do not look forward to playing in Denver. Beautiful words to read.

[thenewera44]

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Terrelle Davis

Yeah, I was expecting someone to throw out the Terrell Davis example when I brought up a 6th rounder or maybe Tom Brady.


So let me clarify the comment for people that bring up the 1% chance of landing a Terrell Davis or Tom Brady in the 6th round.


Yeah. a team would have a 1% chance of landing a true impact player in the 6th round.

[fallforward3y+]

They lost hard hitting Benard Pollard today as well.

Pollard is overrated. He goes for big hits on guys who aren't running at him in a 1 on 1 to get noticed, but he doesn't wrap up well so he's prone to missed tackles.

[FL BRONCO]

Yeah. Perhaps they did not want him in the AFC. Then again, it depends which team in the AFC. I would think a team like the Dolphins would offer more than a 6th for Boldin. I mean look at what they just paid for a WR that does nothing more than runs straight really fast.

Steelers fans will tell you. The guy does not have good hands and he is very limited in route running. He has never had more than 72 catches in a season and he did that only once. Is he worth 13 million per year 30 mill garunteed?

The point is I cannot imagine the Ravens viewing the Dolphins as this immediate threat in the AFC, even if they did get Boldin. Is that team a Boldin away from all of a sudden being this threat in the AFC? It is not like they are in the same division.

Either way, I am sure there are other teams that would have offered more than a 6th rounder. What does a 6th rounder get you? Anything?

Terrelle Davis

[Captain_23]

They lost hard hitting Benard Pollard today as well.

Smh. Thats crazy. They lost all these key cogs that were vital to their success to pay one man that needed help from the refs in every playoff game to win, including the super bowl.. One of the flukest super bowl wins in the history of the super bowl if you ask me. This will be Ozzie Newsome's biggest downfall since taking over as GM. He is the last GM in the NFL i would think could make a serious mistake like he has.

I guess in his defense, the draft sucks as far as year one franchise passers and free agency qbs are even worse so the cards played right into Flaccos hands, but like i said, 2-3 years they will ask him to restructure. He isnt Tom Brady, Aaron Rodgers, and Peyton Manning, he cant take a talentless team and win big with them. He isnt that guy.

[BroncoSexyDaddy]

Flacco hurt the Ravens big time. The Ravens will deny it, but the lost Kruger, Ellerbe, and possibly Reed and traded Boldin because they gave Flacco too much money.. I give them 2-3 years before they ask him to restructure or they will always lose key plays when its time to resign them to long term deals.

They made a grave mistake giving him all that money.. They lost 3/4ths of their starting LB corps (although they anticipate Upshaw being the starter opposite Suggs this year) This draft class really don't have a super, super star at any position, and the way I see it anybody can become a steal and a lot of players in this draft has high potential to become busts'. They have the big holes in the LB corps and the secondary losing Reed and Williams, and now need another Wr..

They cant afford to miss on one player within the first 3 or 4 rounds.. They are going to have to find diamonds in the ruff, and like I said this is a very boom or bust draft imo.

They lost hard hitting Benard Pollard today as well.

[Captain_23]

Flacco hurt the Ravens big time. The Ravens will deny it, but the lost Kruger, Ellerbe, and possibly Reed and traded Boldin because they gave Flacco too much money.. I give them 2-3 years before they ask him to restructure or they will always lose key plays when its time to resign them to long term deals.

They made a grave mistake giving him all that money.. They lost 3/4ths of their starting LB corps (although they anticipate Upshaw being the starter opposite Suggs this year) This draft class really don't have a super, super star at any position, and the way I see it anybody can become a steal and a lot of players in this draft has high potential to become busts'. They have the big holes in the LB corps and the secondary losing Reed and Williams, and now need another Wr..

They cant afford to miss on one player within the first 3 or 4 rounds.. They are going to have to find diamonds in the ruff, and like I said this is a very boom or bust draft imo.

[thenewera44]

Dolphins signed Mike Wallace, I presume. Maybe that's why they didn't go after Boldin they felt they already had their top WR. He may not be the best route runner, but any deep threat is valuable to an offense. The threat of scoring at any time during the game is what they are looking for. Its not about their stats, its about what they bring to the team. Jacobi Jones has never had a great season statistically, but I bet a lot of teams would like to have him. In this era more than ever, a player who is only good at one thing can be valuable with WRs and RBs.

Yeah, they signed Wallace YESTERDAY, and Boldin was traded a FEW DAYS AGO.

Wallace is not that great and cerainly not worth what he was paid imo. Never had 72 catches in a season?

More importantly than having a deep threat is having a guy to move the chains. Boldin is a big target, great hands and can catch the deep ball.

It is not like Boldin is a slow poke.

My point is other than what the Dolphins could use is the fact that NO TEAM was going to offer more than a 6th round pick for Boldin?

Something smells.