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  • one5beast
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    Von Miller

    JJ Watt

    Patrick Peterson

    Duane Brown

    Jonathan Cooper


    One player for each level of the defense. JJ Watt and Von can really rush the passer and also stop the run. PP is a young up and coming corner who is a dynamic returner in case offense is sucking.

    I went in a different route with the offense. I would use a ZBS to help the run game and the QB that will probably suck. Duane Brown a very athletic T and would fit very well in the ZBS and is also very good pass protecting only giving up 1 sack. And Jonathan Cooper is a rookie but is very athletic for a guard and can really pull.

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  • Mosk
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    Von Miller
    Richard Sherman
    JJ Watt
    Geno Atkins
    Adrian Peterson

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  • ManningForLife
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    Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
    Well Reed barely found a job (even tho I'm surprised by that) part of it is because he has few good years left

    And Revis is a CB coming off an ACL, not an easy thing to do

    And the biggest error you made is thinking that two secondary players can possibly be better than a pass rush ...this is coming from a secondary specialist..

    Pass rush is always how you build a defense first...while I love having top notch secondary play as well, and ideally you want both, if I have to pick one, without question I'm going pass rush...pass rush can make an average secondary good and lack of it can make a great secondary look average...

    You'll see more SB winners with top notch pass rush than top notch secondary players...and again, I've played CB my whole life...I'm fully for having a top notch secondary, but I'm still smart enough to know pass rush comes first...
    Lol funny. I like that you are so convinced I am wrong. However, I am pretty convinced with what I did and why. Lets leave it at that.

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  • #24 Next Champ
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    Originally posted by Matymaddog View Post
    Thought long and hard about Peterson but read somewhere he gave up 5 TDs last year. However he is electric returning the ball and obviously always improving so I could go either way
    He'll be a top corner in this league very soon, trust ...

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  • Denver_oner
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    Adrian peterson
    Calvin Johnson

    Luke Kuechly
    Von Miller
    JJ Watt

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  • beastlyskronk
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    Von Miller
    Aldon Smith
    JJ Watt
    Adrian Peterson
    Patrick Willis

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  • CanDB
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    Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
    That'd be a damn good way to start...I couldn't go with Sherman cuz of his damn mouth n personality ...had to go with my boy PP
    Yah, someone would end up slapping him, which is not the best way for team mates to interact!

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  • Matymaddog
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    Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
    That'd be a damn good way to start...I couldn't go with Sherman cuz of his damn mouth n personality ...had to go with my boy PP
    Thought long and hard about Peterson but read somewhere he gave up 5 TDs last year. However he is electric returning the ball and obviously always improving so I could go either way

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  • #24 Next Champ
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    Originally posted by Matymaddog View Post
    Geno Atkins
    JJ Watt
    Von Miller
    Richard Sherman
    Luke Kuechly


    Defense wins championships
    That'd be a damn good way to start...I couldn't go with Sherman cuz of his damn mouth n personality ...had to go with my boy PP

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  • Matymaddog
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    Geno Atkins
    JJ Watt
    Von Miller
    Richard Sherman
    Luke Kuechly


    Defense wins championships

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  • #24 Next Champ
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    Originally posted by ManningForLife View Post
    Key for this thread is selecting only 5 players and i thought this is the best. I think Trindon Holliday is extremely good at his one trick, better than anyone right now. Welker is money.

    Well, i can have a sloppy pass rush with solid DBs, i am good. No one better than Revis and Ed Reed. Ask Tom Brady.
    Well Reed barely found a job (even tho I'm surprised by that) part of it is because he has few good years left

    And Revis is a CB coming off an ACL, not an easy thing to do

    And the biggest error you made is thinking that two secondary players can possibly be better than a pass rush ...this is coming from a secondary specialist..

    Pass rush is always how you build a defense first...while I love having top notch secondary play as well, and ideally you want both, if I have to pick one, without question I'm going pass rush...pass rush can make an average secondary good and lack of it can make a great secondary look average...

    You'll see more SB winners with top notch pass rush than top notch secondary players...and again, I've played CB my whole life...I'm fully for having a top notch secondary, but I'm still smart enough to know pass rush comes first...

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  • ManningForLife
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    Originally posted by #24 Next Champ View Post
    Why wouldn't you just take PP, instead of one trick Holliday...look I'm Holiday's biggest fan, I wanted him when he was in HOU...but a first 5 player? Same goes for Welker, how in the hell do you take him over Megatron/AJ Green no matter when you're tryna win...?

    Imo same goes for Reed and Revis ...pass rush is more important ...anyhow not tryna single you out or anything, but this list caught my eye as a pretty bad one
    Key for this thread is selecting only 5 players and i thought this is the best. I think Trindon Holliday is extremely good at his one trick, better than anyone right now. Welker is money.

    Well, i can have a sloppy pass rush with solid DBs, i am good. No one better than Revis and Ed Reed. Ask Tom Brady.

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  • #24 Next Champ
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    Originally posted by broncos SB2010 View Post
    Haloti Ngata
    Luke Kuechly
    Joe Thomas
    Calvin Johnson
    Von Miller
    Was gna put Kuechly on my list as well, dude is a freakin stud...such a great LB

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  • #24 Next Champ
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    Originally posted by ManningForLife View Post
    Winning a championship in a 5 yr window, i am picking the below 5 players and build the team around them.

    Offense
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    Wes Welker ( Passing game )
    Adrian Peterson ( Running game )

    Special Teams
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    Trindon Holliday

    Defense
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    Darelle Revis
    Ed Reed

    I am looking for winning in year 1.
    Why wouldn't you just take PP, instead of one trick Holliday...look I'm Holiday's biggest fan, I wanted him when he was in HOU...but a first 5 player? Same goes for Welker, how in the hell do you take him over Megatron/AJ Green no matter when you're tryna win...?

    Imo same goes for Reed and Revis ...pass rush is more important ...anyhow not tryna single you out or anything, but this list caught my eye as a pretty bad one

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  • bronx_2003
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    Originally posted by BroncoooJohnson View Post
    In five years Fitz and Welker will be on their way out, not sure this will win a SB after 2-3 years
    In 5 years Fitz will only be 34. Steve Smith is 34 and still productive, and Fitz is a top player so I'll take my chances.

    Fair point on Welker. He will be 37 in 5 years. I would hope he can still produce in the slot. 3 very good years then a couple of 'solid' Stokely like one's.

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