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Feel bad for the guy, and I would rather of had him cause he has been more consistently healthy and that worries me with Talib. But, that is what greed gets you. We brought him in and imo had a lot to do with helping turn his career around and then he wanted to get greedy and try and hold out on Elway. Should've learned from Dum last year, Elway sure did. Oh well. Thanks for a good year and a lot of effort DRC and good luck in NY as long as you arent facing us.
Say hi to Deck when you see hi around town, maybe you all can get together, pound a few and talk about it.
Why did Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie turn down the Broncos' six-year, $54 million contract offer? The deal was not what it seems, then Aqib Talib moved in.
I have confirmed a Pro Football Talk report that before the Broncos signed Aqib Talib to a six-year, $57 million contract, they offered their own Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie a six-year $54 million deal.
And it’s true, Rodgers-Cromartie turned it down. But before slamming Rodgers-Cromartie or his agent Eugene Parker, the six-year, $54 million proposal was not what it seemed. No NFL contract is what it seems.
First, Parker has long been considered one of the NFL’s premier agents. He has represented Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson. He currently represents Larry Fitzgerald and Jairus Byrd. Parker just got a six-year, $54 million deal done for Byrd with New Orleans. Parker knows six year, $54 million contracts.
Byrd’s six-year, $54 million deal was structured in such a way that he is all but guaranteed $27.9 million through three years. Rodgers-Cromartie’s six-year, $54 million proposal from the Broncos was essentially a one year, $10 million guarantee.
The Broncos’ contracts are very well structured. The team is more than fair, even generous, to the player in year one, but then the Broncos protect the team interests after that. This is smart, clean business by general manager John Elway and Broncos’ contract guru Mike Sullivan, the unsung star of the team’s recent free-agent haul of defensive standouts.
What we have come to know about Elway is he won’t hesitate to move on if he doesn’t feel negotiations are going well. This is a guy who sharpened his transaction acumen in the car business. Jared Allen found this out as the Broncos wound up signing DeMarcus Ware instead.
It also should be noted that included in the $10 million, first-year money to Rodgers-Cromartie was a $5 million signing bonus that would have carried future salary cap ramifications and made it extremely difficult for the Broncos to release the cornerback after the first year.
So Rodgers-Cromartie would have made $16 million after two years. And then it would have been $24 million over three years.
That’s the deal Rodgers-Cromartie turned down. The other $30 million over the final three years was essentially fluff.
Talib and strong safety T.J. Ward didn’t have a problem with the Broncos’ structure. Talib’s six-year, $57 million contract is really one year and $12 million, two years and $18 million and three years and $27 million. His final three years and $30 million are fluff.
At 5 p.m. Tuesday, Talib had never heard from the Broncos. By 9:15 p.m. Tuesday, they had the deal done.
Some people — most notably the coaches and personnel executives inside Dove Valley’s headquarters — would say Talib is a better player than Rodgers-Cromartie and is worth $2 million more in year one of the contract. The same people would also say if Rodgers-Cromartie is worth an average of $8 million per year after three seasons, then Talib is worth a $9 million average.
Rodgers-Cromartie, a uniquely gifted, long, tall cover corner, and his agent would beg to differ.
We’ll see what happens to Rodgers-Cromartie, but my guess is most teams have already spent the bulk of their budget. When it’s over, Rodgers-Cromartie may continue to receive criticism for not taking the Broncos’ offer.
And that’s fair. But it’s also fair to say he didn’t really turn down six years and $54 million. He rejected one year for $10 million, or two years for $16 million or three years for $24 million.
Why did Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie turn down the Broncos' six-year, $54 million contract offer? The deal was not what it seems, then Aqib Talib moved in.
Why did Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie turn down the Broncos' six-year, $54 million contract offer? The deal was not what it seems, then Aqib Talib moved in.
I have confirmed a Pro Football Talk report that before the Broncos signed Aqib Talib to a six-year, $57 million contract, they offered their own Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie a six-year $54 million deal.
And it’s true, Rodgers-Cromartie turned it down. But before slamming Rodgers-Cromartie or his agent Eugene Parker, the six-year, $54 million proposal was not what it seemed. No NFL contract is what it seems.
First, Parker has long been considered one of the NFL’s premier agents. He has represented Deion Sanders and Rod Woodson. He currently represents Larry Fitzgerald and Jairus Byrd. Parker just got a six-year, $54 million deal done for Byrd with New Orleans. Parker knows six year, $54 million contracts.
Byrd’s six-year, $54 million deal was structured in such a way that he is all but guaranteed $27.9 million through three years. Rodgers-Cromartie’s six-year, $54 million proposal from the Broncos was essentially a one year, $10 million guarantee.
The Broncos’ contracts are very well structured. The team is more than fair, even generous, to the player in year one, but then the Broncos protect the team interests after that. This is smart, clean business by general manager John Elway and Broncos’ contract guru Mike Sullivan, the unsung star of the team’s recent free-agent haul of defensive standouts.
What we have come to know about Elway is he won’t hesitate to move on if he doesn’t feel negotiations are going well. This is a guy who sharpened his transaction acumen in the car business. Jared Allen found this out as the Broncos wound up signing DeMarcus Ware instead.
It also should be noted that included in the $10 million, first-year money to Rodgers-Cromartie was a $5 million signing bonus that would have carried future salary cap ramifications and made it extremely difficult for the Broncos to release the cornerback after the first year.
So Rodgers-Cromartie would have made $16 million after two years. And then it would have been $24 million over three years.
That’s the deal Rodgers-Cromartie turned down. The other $30 million over the final three years was essentially fluff.
Talib and strong safety T.J. Ward didn’t have a problem with the Broncos’ structure. Talib’s six-year, $57 million contract is really one year and $12 million, two years and $18 million and three years and $27 million. His final three years and $30 million are fluff.
At 5 p.m. Tuesday, Talib had never heard from the Broncos. By 9:15 p.m. Tuesday, they had the deal done.
Some people — most notably the coaches and personnel executives inside Dove Valley’s headquarters — would say Talib is a better player than Rodgers-Cromartie and is worth $2 million more in year one of the contract. The same people would also say if Rodgers-Cromartie is worth an average of $8 million per year after three seasons, then Talib is worth a $9 million average.
Rodgers-Cromartie, a uniquely gifted, long, tall cover corner, and his agent would beg to differ.
We’ll see what happens to Rodgers-Cromartie, but my guess is most teams have already spent the bulk of their budget. When it’s over, Rodgers-Cromartie may continue to receive criticism for not taking the Broncos’ offer.
And that’s fair. But it’s also fair to say he didn’t really turn down six years and $54 million. He rejected one year for $10 million, or two years for $16 million or three years for $24 million.
DRC should have took the deal when it was offered. Elway will not leave a deal on the table long and is not afraid to pull it and move in another direction. Talib is as good if not better than DRC and he is very phsyical.
Numbers can be deceiving he actually got a very similar deal to the one Denver offered Giants 3yrs 22M Broncos 3yrs 24M and for the record he didn't turn down the money from Elway he turned down the way his contract was written up
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Numbers can be deceiving he actually got a very similar deal to the one Denver offered Giants 3yrs 22M Broncos 3yrs 24M and for the record he didn't turn down the money from Elway he turned down the way his contract was written up
Can you explain what you mean by "he turned down the way his contract was written up?" Did it have to do with guarantee or playing time or injury stuff? I'd love to know what made him leave cause I really am going to miss him.
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