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  • Salary Cap, Resigning Cap Discounts.

    Has the NFL ever kicked tires on a change in the salary cap, as to having something like 25% of a retained players cap space not count against your teams cap if he signs a long term deal there?

    It would encourage teams to draft, develop, and retain their players. Players would not have to be convinced to take a hometown discount, but it would be reflected in the cap space.

    Example, Miller signs 5 year 100 million, we would get hit 75 mill on our cap, as we drafted him and worked out an extension. If someone stole him for the same contract, they would be hit the full 100 mill. Seems like that would be fair?
    2016 GM for the Buffalo Bills.

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    An interesting idea. It would definitely put a bigger importance on drafting and having a good FO. It could potentially create huge powerhouses though, which could make it unfair for other teams?
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    • #3
      Ya, good teams would flourish, but the cap would still fill up. You just wouldn't have to lose all your FA's though. I have hated seeing all the winners get dismantled over the years. It's still up to the newbies to keep you competitive, so the task is the same. A team should be able to lock down the core they drafted and developed. Sub .500 teams waste money on these players anyway. It's what keeps them in the basement.
      2016 GM for the Buffalo Bills.

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      • #4
        Mario Williams released

        The Buffalo Bills have released their eight-figure man. Almost four years after signing a $96-million contract, former No. 1 overall pick Mario Williams has been released by the Bills.


        Mario Williams released by Buffalo after only four seasons.

        Even though he's not the typical 3-4 Tech defensive end and if we can't resign the Malik Jackson, should we pursue Mario Williams if the price is reasonable?

        Could he flourish in Wade Phillips defense being reunited with some of his old coaches even though he's not the typical 3-4 defensive end that Wades system requires.

        What do you guys think?

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        • #5
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          • #6
            Likely too much money for too much uncertainty.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Sam_Z View Post
              http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...r-four-seasons

              Mario Williams released by Buffalo after only four seasons.

              Even though he's not the typical 3-4 Tech defensive end and if we can't resign the Malik Jackson, should we pursue Mario Williams if the price is reasonable?

              Could he flourish in Wade Phillips defense being reunited with some of his old coaches even though he's not the typical 3-4 defensive end that Wades system requires.

              What do you guys think?
              He's a 31 year old, ten year vet, so he's probably near the end of his career. He played two seasons as a 4/5 tech in an odd front D: 2013 in Mike Pettine's D at Buffalo; and, 2015 in Rex Ryan's D coordinated by Dennis Thurman. He did well in 2013 (13 sacks/38 tackles, Pro Bowl) and not so well last year (5 sacks/19 tackles). For seven years of his career he was 9 tech in a split front D. Maybe he would do well in Wade's D and maybe not. He would need to be cheap, and would play in a rotation.
              "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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              • #8
                i think its safe to say the broncos fans should pretty much forget about bringing in any big money FA's this off season. maybe if they got him for really cheap but someone with more cap space will likely over pay, like the raiders.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by samparnell View Post
                  He's a 31 year old, ten year vet, so he's probably near the end of his career. He played two seasons as a 4/5 tech in an odd front D: 2013 in Mike Pettine's D at Buffalo; and, 2015 in Rex Ryan's D coordinated by Dennis Thurman. He did well in 2013 (13 sacks/38 tackles, Pro Bowl) and not so well last year (5 sacks/19 tackles). For seven years of his career he was 9 tech in a split front D. Maybe he would do well in Wade's D and maybe not. He would need to be cheap, and would play in a rotation.
                  In 2013 under Mike Pettine he played as an OLB, not a 4/5 tech DE. In 2015 he did play some 3-4 DE, but played more snaps as an OLB. He spent 1 year in Wade's D in Houston (and was injured after 5 games), but in those 5 games he played as an OLB. So essentially, the only year he saw snaps as a 4/5 tech was easily his worst year in the league.

                  Williams is an edge rusher and would not fit into Malik's role at all well. We are stacked at OLB as well as being cap strapped, so I don't think Williams makes any sense for us.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by uknflfan View Post
                    In 2013 under Mike Pettine he played as an OLB, not a 4/5 tech DE. In 2015 he did play some 3-4 DE, but played more snaps as an OLB. He spent 1 year in Wade's D in Houston (and was injured after 5 games), but in those 5 games he played as an OLB. So essentially, the only year he saw snaps as a 4/5 tech was easily his worst year in the league.

                    Williams is an edge rusher and would not fit into Malik's role at all well. We are stacked at OLB as well as being cap strapped, so I don't think Williams makes any sense for us.
                    I'll take your word for it. Pro-Football-Reference lists him as LB in 2011 and DE in 2013/2015. Since Buffalo was in an odd front in 2013/2015, DE would mean 4/5 tech.

                    Football Data Base also lists him as DE in 2013. Maybe there is confusion over terminology.

                    I don't follow the Bills, so IDK exactly where he lined up during those seasons. I guess I'd have had to have seen every snap, like the way I watch the Broncos. Specific information is sometimes hard to find.
                    Last edited by samparnell; 03-02-2016, 01:35 PM.
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                    • #11
                      The one time Wade asks him to drop back in coverage, he'll complain that he's not rushing the passer enough.🙄

                      He's a 4-3 DE
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                      • #12
                        The other Brandon Marshall back in Denver

                        I thought this was a cool story, but part of that is because I'm still a huge Marshall fan.

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                        • #13
                          Great read, it's nice to see him doing well and giving back to the community.

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                          • #14
                            Great story, I'm glad that Brandon Marshall 1.0 has been able to get his life back on track, he went from a guy who looked like he was going to quickly find himself out of the NFL because of his antics, to a guy who is a leader and a very good person. Credit to him for that.

                            I also had no idea about Tyrone Braxton, I kind of remember the arrest story, but didn't know about everything else, I'm glad he got his life back on track as well.

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                            • #15
                              Thanks for sharing this story. Great for Tyrone Braxton! Hopefully Manziel can get right.

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