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  • #61
    Often times, when we've gone through hardship in our own personal life, and through positive influence overcome said adversity; We desire greatly to help another person overcome a similar hardship through similar means.

    It is a human construct, and as natural as the sun coming up each day.

    Von was in JMs shoes; D Ware helped him to overcome that period in his life and come out on top of the NFL world. It is natural for Von to attempt to have a similar effect his close friend JM.

    Will it be successful? We do not know. It all depends on how permanent the lessons learned from D Ware's influence permeate the lifestyle implemented by Von for JMs growth. Those are things we cannot know as fans on the outside.

    If Von has truely turned a corner, then this should be no more dangerous then if D Ware was taking JM into his home for the same purpose.

    If Von has not yet turned that corner then this choice will harm his own growth to this point.

    Experience is the greatest teacher of all. Only time will reveal whether this was the correct choice for Von Miller at this moment in time.

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    • #62
      I know we are all fans of out team and of Von Miller, but this is a man helping a friend get his life in order.

      Please remember that football is just a job to these players. They are not just video game programs that vanish when we turn off the xbox. They are real humans with feelings and emotions and for the most part are all just kids. They need mentoring and they themselves need role models as they are role models to younger kids themselves.

      What Von is doing for Johnnie is the right thing to as a HUMAN.

      I'm a fan of Humanity before I am a fan of football, Good for you Von. Get that kid squared away and back on the right path.
      Last edited by donnyrides; 04-11-2016, 08:08 AM.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by donnyrides
        I know we are all fans of out team and of Von Miller, but this is a man helping a friend get his life in order.

        Please remember that football is just a job to these players. They are not just video game programs that vanish when we turn off the xbox. They are real humans with feelings and emotions and for the most part are all just kids. They need mentoring and they themselves need role models as they are role models to younger kids themselves.

        What Von is doing for Johnnie is the right thing to as a HUMAN.

        I'm a fan of Humanity before I am a fan of football, Good for you Von. Get that kid squared away and back on the right path.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by broncoslover115
          They are both Texas A&M alumni.
          Von is an alumni, Manziel didn't graduate. You're pretty much right, though.
          Fightin' Texas Aggie c/o '16

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          • #65
            Originally posted by donnyrides
            I know we are all fans of out team and of Von Miller, but this is a man helping a friend get his life in order.

            Please remember that football is just a job to these players. They are not just video game programs that vanish when we turn off the xbox. They are real humans with feelings and emotions and for the most part are all just kids. They need mentoring and they themselves need role models as they are role models to younger kids themselves.

            What Von is doing for Johnnie is the right thing to as a HUMAN.

            I'm a fan of Humanity before I am a fan of football, Good for you Von. Get that kid squared away and back on the right path.
            I agree.

            It's really disappointing to read the tone and tenor of comments on this Thread. It's great to read a message and reminder of simply "Doing the right thing".

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            • #66
              Is anyone else thinking reality show gold? The ratings for this thing would be through the roof.
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              • #67
                Is this real?

                I've read conflicting reports all over the internet. The most believable to me is that he is NOT living with Von currently because Von is living in housing provided by "Dancing with the Stars" while he is filming.
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                • #68
                  IF this is true then it is a disaster waiting to happen. I don't know why Denver is even sniffing around this degenerate woman beater. He's going to end up in jail.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Jermz79
                    Is this real?

                    I've read conflicting reports all over the internet. The most believable to me is that he is NOT living with Von currently because Von is living in housing provided by "Dancing with the Stars" while he is filming.
                    Johnny lied, he isn't living with him.
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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by donnyrides
                      I know we are all fans of out team and of Von Miller, but this is a man helping a friend get his life in order.

                      Please remember that football is just a job to these players. They are not just video game programs that vanish when we turn off the xbox. They are real humans with feelings and emotions and for the most part are all just kids. They need mentoring and they themselves need role models as they are role models to younger kids themselves.

                      What Von is doing for Johnnie is the right thing to as a HUMAN.

                      I'm a fan of Humanity before I am a fan of football, Good for you Von. Get that kid squared away and back on the right path.
                      I like your style!

                      I say lets not overreact. This is a media driven world, often based on limited correct information, and often trying to score sensualisation points. I am not worried about. If folks think our team would allow Von to live with Manziel, they should think twice about it. They would not. It's simple as that.

                      And yes, as you have so eloquently stated, lets be human. How many of us who live pretty responsible lives have not lent a hand to those who were in a bad state? If you haven't, I would suggest you be there when the time comes.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Freyaka
                        Johnny lied, he isn't living with him.
                        What a surprise. lol
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                        • #72
                          Word is Manziel is living with Josh Gordon in LA. Lol, that'll get Gordon reinstated real fast.

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by donnyrides
                            What Von is doing for Johnnie is the right thing to as a HUMAN.
                            I don't think that's the issue some people here have with the idea.

                            Let's put it this way, if a friend had been shot several times would you (as a non-M.D.) take him home and try to pull the bullets out yourself, or rush him to the hospital?

                            Von is not qualified for the task of rehabilitation, and his home is not a rehab center.

                            Some people here (and in the wider society) seem to misunderstand and downplay the severity of alcoholism and drug addiction and the kind of chaos it can generate which for Manziel has included battery, DUI's and scandal.

                            Anyway, it's not happening (apparently), and I sincerely hope there's no plan in Von's mind or articulated with Johnny to bring him home to Denver after DWTS concludes. I hope it all goes away.
                            Last edited by L.M.; 04-11-2016, 12:44 PM.

                            Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by LynchMobster
                              I don't think that's the issue some people here have with the idea.

                              Let's put it this way, if a friend had been shot several times would you (as a non-M.D.) take him home and try to pull the bullets out yourself, or rush him to the hospital?

                              Von is not qualified for the task of rehabilitation, and his home is not a rehab center.

                              Some people here (and in the wider society) seem to misunderstand and downplay the severity of alcoholism and drug addiction and the kind of chaos it can generate which for Manziel has included battery, DUI's and scandal.

                              Anyway, it's not happening (thankfully), and I sincerely hope there's no plan in Von's mind or articulated with Johnny to bring him home to Denver after DWTS concludes. I hope it all goes away.
                              I don't think Von was taking on the role of a treatment provider. Unfortunately many in this thread have said the exact opposite of what someone struggling with addiction needs; support and care from those around them.

                              We still live in a society where being a "junkie" "alcoholic" is a moral failure, not recognizing it as a disease.

                              Research shows that bonding is one of the most important factors for sustaining recovery from addiction.

                              If Von would have opened his doors to JM to provide support and help, kudos to him.

                              We need more people like that in our world.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by TH3JUICEMAN
                                I don't think Von was taking on the role of a treatment provider. Unfortunately many in this thread have said the exact opposite of what someone struggling with addiction needs; support and care from those around them.

                                We still live in a society where being a "junkie" "alcoholic" is a moral failure, not recognizing it as a disease.

                                Research shows that bonding is one of the most important factors for sustaining recovery from addiction.

                                If Von would have opened his doors to JM to provide support and help, kudos to him.

                                We need more people like that in our world.
                                No, this is not how you treat someone who is at this stage of the problem. You don't move them into your home. And Von would be a de facto treatment provider by doing that for which he is unqualified. Friendship and support can be extended to him while he's in rehab and that would be a good thing.

                                Superbowl 50 MVP Von Miller on February 7th, 2016

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