Manziel moving in with Miller

[xX-Bronco-Xx]

It's a lie.

Not true.

Phony.

No Money.

False.

No.

[Gbt31]

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9271/johnny-manziel

ESPN reports free agent Johnny Manziel is living with Josh Gordon.

Manziel's assertion that he was living with Von Miller was quickly refuted, but this is more believable since it's not coming from the quarterback himself. If true, it's a bad look for Gordon, who, unlike Manziel, had at least created the impression he's gotten his life in order. If Manziel's recent TMZ interview is any indication, his seems to be spiraling further out of control. It's extremely unlikely Manziel makes any 2016 appearances. Apr 11 - 2:45 PM

[Dennis.1960]

Wow...this kid is a train wreck

[Houshmazode]

Josh Gordon

Ok, no hope for Manziel.

[KansasKrista]

I agree.

It's really disappointing to read the tone and tenor of comments on this Thread. It's great to read a message and reminder of simply "Doing the right thing".

Oh please. I've dealt personally with addictive situations, I know first hand how doing the "right thing" can actually be very harmful sometimes. And that is because a well intentioned friend can actually do more harm than good with their idea of what is right. As others have written, Manziel needs rehab.. Anything less is not truly helping the guy.

I don't think anyone is saying Miller should cut off ties if Manziel is in rehab and making true strides to turn his life around. But, until Manziel decides he actually has a problem and needs serious help, most of those well intentioned friends are just enablers.
An addict who doesn't think he or she has a problem is sort of like a tornado that takes down everything in its path... Even the innocent well intentioned friends and family can get caught up in the destruction. There is nothing wrong with someone recognizing the truth and protecting themselves and the addict!!

I didn't really read anything in this thread that seemed worthy of your judgment and disappointment. I did read many responses from some who seemed to actually know what they were talking about and had some wisdom to share.

[ELWAY421]

Josh Gordon

Ok, no hope for Manziel.

Or vise versa lol. And... that's saying a lot

[rst08tierney]

It's a lie.

Not true.

Phony.

No Money.

False.

No.

this right here /thread

[broncolassiter]

Oh please. I've dealt personally with addictive situations, I know first hand how doing the "right thing" can actually be very harmful sometimes. And that is because a well intentioned friend can actually do more harm than good with their idea of what is right. As others have written, Manziel needs rehab.. Anything less is not truly helping the guy.

I don't think anyone is saying Miller should cut off ties if Manziel is in rehab and making true strides to turn his life around. But, until Manziel decides he actually has a problem and needs serious help, most of those well intentioned friends are just enablers.
An addict who doesn't think he or she has a problem is sort of like a tornado that takes down everything in its path... Even the innocent well intentioned friends and family can get caught up in the destruction. There is nothing wrong with someone recognizing the truth and protecting themselves and the addict!!

I didn't really read anything in this thread that seemed worthy of your judgment and disappointment. I did read many responses from some who seemed to actually know what they were talking about and had some wisdom to share.

Rehab at this point of Manziel's life would be pointless. At this time by his own testimony, he does not see the downfall of his life style. In order for rehab to have a chance, the individual must have some conscious thought of where their choices may leed them. Manziel said he sees nothing wrong with his life style. If Von was to give him shelter he could be enabling his friends lifestyle rather than changing it. Manziel needs to hit bottom or what he feels is bottom in order to turn his life around.

[L.M.]

Rehab at this point of Manziel's life would be pointless. At this time by his own testimony, he does not see the downfall of his life style. In order for rehab to have a chance, the individual must have some conscious thought of where their choices may leed them. Manziel said he sees nothing wrong with his life style. If Von was to give him shelter he could be enabling his friends lifestyle rather than changing it. Manziel needs to hit bottom or what he feels is bottom in order to turn his life around.

That's true. He was in rehab a year ago, and it didn't work because he wasn't at what's sometimes referred to as 'emotional threshold' where he knows he must change. He's in the common self-deception of addicts that he can control it -that's the upshot of his comment "I don't think there's anything wrong with partying, bro, there's a difference between partying and getting out of control". Alcoholics can't just have one drink, they have to have fifty!

[L.M.]

Von Miller's Instagram today:

vonmiller Lol, you guys are HILARIOUS!!! Haha, I love it. Johnny's not staying with me but he is my BROTHER! Like I've said a thousand times, I got his back no matter what! #LOVE #gigem @jmanziel2

[Gbt31]

Rehab at this point of Manziel's life would be pointless. At this time by his own testimony, he does not see the downfall of his life style. In order for rehab to have a chance, the individual must have some conscious thought of where their choices may leed them. Manziel said he sees nothing wrong with his life style. If Von was to give him shelter he could be enabling his friends lifestyle rather than changing it. Manziel needs to hit bottom or what he feels is bottom in order to turn his life around.

Sadly, I think he is so delusional that I don't believe he will ever be cognizant of him actually hitting rock bottom. He is a strange bird.

[CanDB]

Manziel's got huge issues. Josh Gordon is wasting away his potentially fantastic career over drugs. Dude, when you have a test coming, "study" for it!!!! Oh I see, the masking didn't work.

[Lumiere]

Von Miller's Instagram today:

vonmiller Lol, you guys are HILARIOUS!!! Haha, I love it. Johnny's not staying with me but he is my BROTHER! Like I've said a thousand times, I got his back no matter what! #LOVE #gigem @jmanziel2

Manziel was probably just thinking, "It's Miller Time," and confused a beer with a 6'3" ripped linebacker.

[broncoslover115]

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9271/johnny-manziel

ESPN reports free agent Johnny Manziel is living with Josh Gordon.

Manziel's assertion that he was living with Von Miller was quickly refuted, but this is more believable since it's not coming from the quarterback himself. If true, it's a bad look for Gordon, who, unlike Manziel, had at least created the impression he's gotten his life in order. If Manziel's recent TMZ interview is any indication, his seems to be spiraling further out of control. It's extremely unlikely Manziel makes any 2016 appearances. Apr 11 - 2:45 PM

http://deadspin.com/report-former-brown-johnny-manziel-is-living-with-susp-1770331827

However, sources tell ESPN that the quarterback is actually not living with Miller. Instead, the sources say, Manziel is living with Cleveland wide receiver Josh Gordon in an apartment off of Sunset Boulevard.

Gordon has been suspended by the NFL three times for violating the substance-abuse policy, and is still in limbo after applying for reinstatement for the 2016 season. Manziel has domestic abuse allegations hanging over his head and a history of going to extreme measures in order to party, which would be whimsical if it weren’t so painfully clear that he has a legitimate substance-abuse problem of his own.

The Browns cut Manziel in March in order to get away from him, and also because he was bad. And here the two are, with the Browns facing the prospect that one of their players—possibly on his final chance for staying in the league—is living with a player they gave too many chances to.


BREAKING NEWS

ESPN just reported this a minute ago...that Josh Gordon failed his drug test and tested positive for marijuana and something else. Sorry, I could not catch the last few words that the reporter said and there is no link to the story yet.

This is what addiction is and does to people's lives. Gordon applied for reinstatement after a year long suspension and was not able to stop using drugs, even for a brief period of time, in order to secure employment again. Addiction is a horrible disease. It wrecks and ruins lives. It can take everything away from you.

Johnny Manziel and Josh Gordon allegedly living together is even worse than Johnny Manziel and Von Miller living together. (Which we know is not true).

I hope and pray that both of these guys eventually get the help that they need. When addiction goes unchecked and unaddressed it does not end well for anyone. But know, addiction is not about being morally bankrupt, it is about being sick.

It is often mistakenly assumed that drug abusers and alcoholics lack moral principles or willpower and that they could stop using drugs or stop drinking simply by choosing to change their behavior. In reality, addiction is a complex disease, and quitting takes more than good intentions or a strong will. In fact, because drugs and alcohol change the brain in ways that foster compulsive drug abuse, quitting is difficult, even for those who are ready to do so. It's chronic and causes compulsive use, despite the many harmful consequences.

These guys are in some serious trouble. Man oh man, I hope someone steps in and orchestrates an intervention on their behalf because it is obvious their lives are spiraling out of control and their lives have become unmanageable.

[PAINTERDAVE]

Manzel can't be living at Von's house..
I AM LIVING AT VON"S HOUSE.
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No, wait... that's a lie.
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I'm living at KUBIAK"S HOUSE.
That's right... me and Kubes chillaxing wit a cold road pop at the pool.
Yeah.. that's the ticket.
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It's all about ME.
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ME I tell you.
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and NO... my HEAD is not TOO BIG to get into that argyle sweater.