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  • #16
    Originally posted by DenverBlood View Post
    Once upon a time I said the same thing with Trent Richardson to Cleveland.

    I'm sure you feel like Elliot is far superior to Richardson but at one point I too thought Richardson was superior to anyone else they could get at RB.

    I actually don't think Elliot is anything like Trent. But my point is it's Cleveland. I wouldn't assume anyone can succeed there.


    I saw this talk about Big Ben could've been with the Browns. But I wonder if they consider how much coaching and development and good team culture has played a part in who Big Ben has become today?

    It's very possible that if Big Ben had been drafted by Cleveland that his name would be on that list of busts.
    I understand what you're saying. I was just kind of talking crap. If they are starting over which is what it looks like to me they should build inside out. Start with the interior lines.

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    • #17
      Eagles Snag # 2 pick in 2016 Draft

      The top of the 2016 NFL Draft has been shaken up again. This time around, it's the Philadelphia Eagles making a bold gambit to change the future of their franchise.

      The Eagles acquired the No. 2 overall pick of the 2016 NFL Draft in a trade with the Cleveland Browns on Wednesday, the Eagles announced. The Browns will receive Philadelphia's No. 8 overall pick, third- and fourth-round picks in this draft, next year's first round pick, and a second-round pick in 2018. The Eagles also got back the Browns' fourth-round pick next season.

      The Eagles are making this pick to draft a quarterback, executive vice president Howie Roseman confirmed in a news conference Wednesday. We'll have to wait to find out which quarterback it will be. The Los Angeles Rams traded up with Tennessee less than a week ago in a blockbuster deal that resulted in the Rams acquiring the No. 1 overall pick. California quarterback Jared Goff and North Dakota State quarterback Carson Wentz are now fully expected to be the first two selections of the draft. NFL Media's Michael Silver has indicated Goff is the likely choice to go first to the Rams.

      The Eagles would clearly not make this deal if they didn't fully believe in both quarterbacks. They might have a good read on what the Rams will do at No. 1, but you don't make a franchise-altering move like this unless you are fully on board with either quarterback.

      Eagles executive vice president Howie Roseman confirmed they are looking to draft a quarterback, and that they are "comfortable" with either Goff or Wentz.

      "It's hard to be great if you don't take some risks," Roseman said.

      This marks yet another bold move by Roseman since he took the reigns of the organization back from former coach Chip Kelly. It certainly gives the Eagles a loaded quarterback room. Sam Bradford -- a former No. 1 overall pick himself -- is set to make $18 million this year as the team's presumptive starter. Chase Daniel, who was the backup in Kansas City last season, is one of the highest-paid backups in the league.

      The Eagles are already talking up the benefits of sitting a rookie quarterback for a year and possibly two, citing Donovan McNabb, Philip Rivers, and Aaron Rodgers as quarterbacks that had the luxury to start their careers on the bench.

      Now both Bradford and Daniel will be expected to keep the seat warm until the "quarterback of the future”— presumably Wentz -- is ready. Bradford is essentially in Philadelphia on a one-year deal. He could wind up being traded next offseason, with Daniel in place as the Eagles' long-term backup.

      While the Eagles have an enviable "problem" with too many quarterbacks, the Browns are still searching for one to believe in. Josh McCown and Robert Griffin III are in place in Cleveland. The Browns would not make this move if they were truly in love with both Goff and Wentz. Perhaps the Rams' trade really did box in Cleveland. Silver has reported that the Browns preferred Goff, and his expected choice at No. 1 had them re-evaluating the options of this draft.

      Cleveland's roster has so many problems that we can't fault them for making a safe trade. They still get the No. 8 overall pick this season, and pick up an extra first-, second-, and third-round picks. They very well might draft a quarterback later in this draft, and can continue to fill out their roster with extra picks over the next few years.

      The Browns are just starting a full-scale rebuild and will try to improve their overall team first before finding their quarterback. The Eagles are pushing their chips in the table right now.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by LynchMobster View Post
        Pretty poor way to overhaul a team by bankrupting its draft pool for a couple of years. Some GM's are just insane!
        Exactly. They may be in full rebuild mode, or not, I don't know. This trade, however, is fueled by nothing more than pure desperation.

        They got fleeced so bad by Cleveland is almost criminal.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by BroncoFanBoy View Post
          They better be 100% sure they know who the Rams will take at 1. Either that or they like both Wentz and Goff. IMO, one of those teams will get a franchise QB (Wentz) and the other one will get one who will be okay in the NFL, but they'll look for his replacement later on. (Goff)
          Ummm They already said they are taking whichever of the two is available. Does'nt matter to them which one it is. But they said they are taking a QB with their pick.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by Rastic View Post
            Exactly. They may be in full rebuild mode, or not, I don't know. This trade, however, is fueled by nothing more than pure desperation.

            They got fleeced so bad by Cleveland is almost criminal.
            You're the second person so suggest the Eagles got screwed more than the Rams did. They didn't give up as much as the Rams did. Rightfully so because they didn't have to jump up as far.

            But it's not like they've bankrupted their future anymore than the Rams have. The Rams half their defense to free agency and now don't have a pick between 1 and 144 to replace them with.
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            • #21
              The Eagles have away too much if you ask me. Can't blame Cleveland.

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              • #22
                Idk? It seems like Chip Kelly is still there to me.

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                • #23
                  Wow, the Browns are terrible at making draft picks, every year they have like more draft picks than anybody else yet they continue to suck.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by ELWAY421 View Post
                    Idk? It seems like Chip Kelly is still there to me.
                    I think that was part of his deal with the Niners was he would still have GM control over the Eagles.
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ELWAY421 View Post
                      Now watch the Browns grab Lynch at 8 lol.
                      I just don't see it from a value perspective, but who knows. For me, if they wanted a QB they should have kept their pick, because Lynch seems overvalued at 8. It's great to add picks, but they have to add value. And clearly, Wentz and Goff are the best out there this season.

                      Then again, maybe you are referring to the Browns' drafting history.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                        I just don't see it from a value perspective, but who knows. For me, if they wanted a QB they should have kept their pick, because Lynch seems overvalued at 8. It's great to add picks, but they have to add value. And clearly, Wentz and Goff are the best out there this season.

                        Then again, maybe you are referring to the Browns' drafting history.
                        That's exactly what I said to my brother who thinks there is a good chance they take Lynch now.
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                        • #27
                          It's looking like some quality players will fall due to a mini-run on QBs. Denver can probably take BPA and stay true to their board. That would be a good draft; ten quality picks. They would all have a good chance of making the team because there are only about sixty guys currently on the roster. A bunch of UDFAs will need to be signed post-draft to get to ninety for TC.
                          "Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus

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                          • #28
                            So is it true that TEN has something like 7 of the first top 10 picks?
                            Adopted Bronco: DeMarcus Ware

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by CanDB View Post
                              I just don't see it from a value perspective, but who knows. For me, if they wanted a QB they should have kept their pick, because Lynch seems overvalued at 8. It's great to add picks, but they have to add value. And clearly, Wentz and Goff are the best out there this season.

                              Then again, maybe you are referring to the Browns' drafting history.
                              I've heard pundits say out of all of the QB's he has the most upside. The value comes down to what that particular team and where they have the player on their draft board.

                              Edit: For the record I agree. Lol. Over the years though it's become pretty common for teams to sell their souls and reach for what they think is their next franchise QB. I think we proved this last year you can win a championship with subpar QB.
                              Last edited by ELWAY421; 04-20-2016, 03:32 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Reshuffle Your Mocks: Browns/Eagles Trade For #2 Pick In The First Round

                                I just saw this via FB:

                                http://deadspin.com/browns-trade-sec...tlo-1772077911

                                They have to be going after a QB, right? Does that push D-Line talent down towards us? Does that draw QB's up in the draft rankings? Are we looking at a possibility where Connor Cook moves up to #25-ish? I don't want to trade picks for the guy. Screw that. Sign Hoyer as Sanchez's back up and go BPA.

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