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While I both agree and disagree with many posts in this thread I have to lean towards champ on this one. Jay really needs to learn how to manage the game better, and also to learn that you don't have to go for the big play EVERY time on every drive. There is something to be said to check the ball down and live to fight another day. -Great Post Cut the Excuses out please. sigh...
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The false narrative being thrown out there is that the Colts ruined Andrew Luck and did him a disservice with an offensive line that supposedly ended his career. That's not true at all. Andrew Luck ruined himself with his style of play. Luck is built like a linebacker and always enjoyed playing as the tough guy scrambling and inviting contact. In 2015, he suffered a torn abdominal muscle and lacerated kidney against the Broncos. His offensive line had nothing to do with that. On that play, Luck still had a pocket to dump the ball to Ahmad Bradshaw, but decided to scramble and meet Danny Trevathan head-to-head at full speed, without sliding. Luck ended up being crushed by Trevathan and Vance Walker algo got him during the collision.
A lot of QBs have to live with OL issues, OL play is a league-wide issue. Some get rid of the ball in the pocket, while Luck wanted to act tough and run like Tim Tebow sometimes without protecting himself. His 2018 offensive line was pretty good with 1st-round picks at LT, LG and C and a 2nd-round pick at RT. Luck only got sacked 18 times last season, but ran the ball 46 times. He had 332 carries in the NFL running like that. Running wild towards contact, holding the ball for too long. That's how Luck got crushed.
My guess is that, once he is fully healthy, relaxing for 1-2 years and has nothing else to do, he will want to play football again. He's too young.sigpic
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Originally posted by -Rod- View PostThe false narrative being thrown out there is that the Colts ruined Andrew Luck and did him a disservice with an offensive line that supposedly ended his career. That's not true at all. Andrew Luck ruined himself with his style of play. Luck is built like a linebacker and always enjoyed playing as the tough guy scrambling and inviting contact. In 2015, he suffered a torn abdominal muscle and lacerated kidney against the Broncos. His offensive line had nothing to do with that. On that play, Luck still had a pocket to dump the ball to Ahmad Bradshaw, but decided to scramble and meet Danny Trevathan head-to-head at full speed, without sliding. Luck ended up being crushed by Trevathan and Vance Walker algo got him during the collision.
A lot of QBs have to live with OL issues, OL play is a league-wide issue. Some get rid of the ball in the pocket, while Luck wanted to act tough and run like Tim Tebow sometimes without protecting himself. His 2018 offensive line was pretty good with 1st-round picks at LT, LG and C and a 2nd-round pick at RT. Luck only got sacked 18 times last season, but ran the ball 46 times. He had 332 carries in the NFL running like that. Running wild towards contact, holding the ball for too long. That's how Luck got crushed.
My guess is that, once he is fully healthy, relaxing for 1-2 years and has nothing else to do, he will want to play football again. He's too young.
Now if your theory of him wanting to come back does materialize, then imagine if the XFL is not only still around but slightly competitive at the last. Andrew Luck signing with them (for a monster contract) could start a domino effect. This is taking into account that the XFL is an actual football league.
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Originally posted by DevilSpawn View PostSuck For Luck II. Some sequels are better than the first.
Now if your theory of him wanting to come back does materialize, then imagine if the XFL is not only still around but slightly competitive at the last. Andrew Luck signing with them (for a monster contract) could start a domino effect. This is taking into account that the XFL is an actual football league.sigpic
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Originally posted by -Rod- View PostThe false narrative being thrown out there is that the Colts ruined Andrew Luck and did him a disservice with an offensive line that supposedly ended his career. That's not true at all. Andrew Luck ruined himself with his style of play. Luck is built like a linebacker and always enjoyed playing as the tough guy scrambling and inviting contact. In 2015, he suffered a torn abdominal muscle and lacerated kidney against the Broncos. His offensive line had nothing to do with that. On that play, Luck still had a pocket to dump the ball to Ahmad Bradshaw, but decided to scramble and meet Danny Trevathan head-to-head at full speed, without sliding. Luck ended up being crushed by Trevathan and Vance Walker algo got him during the collision.
A lot of QBs have to live with OL issues, OL play is a league-wide issue. Some get rid of the ball in the pocket, while Luck wanted to act tough and run like Tim Tebow sometimes without protecting himself. His 2018 offensive line was pretty good with 1st-round picks at LT, LG and C and a 2nd-round pick at RT. Luck only got sacked 18 times last season, but ran the ball 46 times. He had 332 carries in the NFL running like that. Running wild towards contact, holding the ball for too long. That's how Luck got crushed.
My guess is that, once he is fully healthy, relaxing for 1-2 years and has nothing else to do, he will want to play football again. He's too young.
He might prefer simply rolling in cash, than the rigor and grind (and injuries) of returning to the NFL.
He's a smart guy...he has many options. We'll see what he does.To infinity...and beyond.
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For anyone to suggest the Colts didn’t screw up by not giving Luck a better offensive line before 2018, is just ludicrous.
Yes, part of his problem was the way he played, but Ryan Grigson did him no favors when it came to the o-line.
If Luck didn’t play the way he did, the Colts probably don’t make the playoffs those first three years. So he’s damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t.My Opinion isn’t determined by what the Popular Opinion is. Sometimes I agree with the Majority, Sometimes I Don’t. If My Opinion is Different than Yours, I have to Ask One Question:
You Mad Bro?
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So, Rob Gronkowski basically retired for the same reason.
The only difference is the timing.
The difference in timing is because Luck began the offseason with the intention of playing this season.
I wonder if the critics realize how wrong they were to criticize Luck’’s decision.My Opinion isn’t determined by what the Popular Opinion is. Sometimes I agree with the Majority, Sometimes I Don’t. If My Opinion is Different than Yours, I have to Ask One Question:
You Mad Bro?
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Originally posted by dizzolve View PostImagine Luck comes back ......... and becomes a frickin Bronco
Indy will just forever hate the Broncos after Elway, Manning ........... Luck
thats 3 superbowlsMy Opinion isn’t determined by what the Popular Opinion is. Sometimes I agree with the Majority, Sometimes I Don’t. If My Opinion is Different than Yours, I have to Ask One Question:
You Mad Bro?
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Originally posted by samparnell View PostClassless :hammer:
BTW my issue with IND's management has been D, not offense
Also if TENN doesn't take this division by multiple games, then this division is really a joke and patheticLast edited by HUMCALC; 08-28-2019, 08:57 AM."Happiness is just an illusion, filled with sadness and confusion." Jimmy Ruffin
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Originally posted by HUMCALC View PostI don't think that it's classless. He waited until 10 days before the season started to do this. If he had done this in April or earlier, they could have drafted his replacement. Now they have no one. Athletes are too fragile nowadays. If Elway, Marino, Montana, Manning, Favre, Staubach, Unitas, Young, etc. had pulled this, they'd have been run out of town. Elway went to 3 SBs with less talent, took more physical abuse, and yet he still was almost traded (if Reeves had had his way.)
BTW my issue with IND's management has been D, not offense
Also if TENN doesn't take this division by multiple games, then this division is really a joke and pathetic
Why would he have retired before deciding he needed to retire or even entertained the idea?
It was absolutely classless of the fans to boo him.My Opinion isn’t determined by what the Popular Opinion is. Sometimes I agree with the Majority, Sometimes I Don’t. If My Opinion is Different than Yours, I have to Ask One Question:
You Mad Bro?
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Originally posted by HUMCALC View PostI don't think that it's classless. He waited until 10 days before the season started to do this. If he had done this in April or earlier, they could have drafted his replacement. Now they have no one. Athletes are too fragile nowadays. If Elway, Marino, Montana, Manning, Favre, Staubach, Unitas, Young, etc. had pulled this, they'd have been run out of town. Elway went to 3 SBs with less talent, took more physical abuse, and yet he still was almost traded (if Reeves had had his way.)
BTW my issue with IND's management has been D, not offense
Also if TENN doesn't take this division by multiple games, then this division is really a joke and pathetic"Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus
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Originally posted by broncolee View PostLuck entered the offseason with the intention of playing.
Why would he have retired before deciding he needed to retire or even entertained the idea?
It was absolutely classless of the fans to boo him.
Andrew Luck had planned to make his announcement the next day, but Jim Irsay probably leaked it to Adam Schefter, who promptly tweeted it, so that Andrew would be booed that night. There's plenty of classlessness to go around.Last edited by samparnell; 08-28-2019, 10:41 AM."Stultum est timere quod vitare non potes." ~ Publilius Syrus
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Originally posted by HUMCALC View PostI don't think that it's classless. He waited until 10 days before the season started to do this. If he had done this in April or earlier, they could have drafted his replacement. Now they have no one. Athletes are too fragile nowadays. If Elway, Marino, Montana, Manning, Favre, Staubach, Unitas, Young, etc. had pulled this, they'd have been run out of town. Elway went to 3 SBs with less talent, took more physical abuse, and yet he still was almost traded (if Reeves had had his way.)
BTW my issue with IND's management has been D, not offense
Also if TENN doesn't take this division by multiple games, then this division is really a joke and pathetic
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