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  • #16
    horseface/front-runner fan/Monkey

    Biased suits you better than me. Every sentence contains a a line of worship to a squaws player or the team.

    There is no-way that an everyday player should lose the MVP award to a special teams player. The majority of Dante Hall's big plays have come during the returns. He is not deserving of the MVP award, unless he return three or four more returns for touchdowns. Dante's not even in the top four now.

    We are on week 9 and a lot has changed in four weeks since that week 5 poll. Randy Moss is in better position to win the MVP award than Dante Hall.

    McNair has heart and guts, but I am not sold that the system he runs and the injuries that the team will have to deal with won't cost him in the second half of the season. Plus, Eddie George wants some TV time.

    Any team with two players in the running for the same award hurts those players chances of winning it. That's a fact.
    Bronco Pride is more than skin deep, it's to the bone.

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    • #17
      horseface/front-runner fan/Monkey

      There you go telling people how to vote or lending your opinion on everyone again. Are you a politician?

      Priest Holmes is a solid back, but I think Jamal has lifted his team to a higher level and they are over-achieving because of him. There is no way if Jamal wasn't having this type of season that team would be leading their division. He alone is carrying that team and he appears to be getting stronger as the season goes on.

      He ran for 134 yds. against the second ranked defense in the NFL.
      Bronco Pride is more than skin deep, it's to the bone.

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      • #18
        Re: horseface/front-runner fan/Monkey

        Originally posted by BroncoPhoenix
        There you go telling people how to vote or lending your opinion on everyone again. Are you a politician?

        Priest Holmes is a solid back, but I think Jamal has lifted his team to a higher level and they are over-achieving because of him. There is no way if Jamal wasn't having this type of season that team would be leading their division. He alone is carrying that team and he appears to be getting stronger as the season goes on.

        He ran for 134 yds. against the second ranked defense in the NFL.
        Don't suppose its because they're in the weakest division in football. Oh ya and their defense is still pretty damn dominant. Jamal lifted this team? Look at who they have beat. The best team they beat was a very wounded Bronco squad. SD,Cleveland, Arizona. Big wins
        Individual commitment to a group effort - that is what makes a team work, a company work, a society work, a civilization work.

        It's easy to have faith in yourself and have discipline when you're a winner, when you're number one. What you got to have is faith and discipline when you're not a winner.

        Vince Lombardi

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        • #19
          Some random thoughts...

          The MVP should be a player who has consistantly played at a high level, makes big plays, instills confidence in his teammates, etc.

          If Plummer had remained healthy he might have been that type of player, however we have so many great players on both sides of the ball, it would be hard to pinpoint Jake as the key to success. As far as Priest and Dante, they have both had big plays, but no real consistancy. If Holmes continues to play like last Sunday through the balance of the season, I might consider him. Dante simply cannot be MVP, since his claim to fame is runbacks which are very hard to come by week in and week out even with a little help (wink, wink).

          Jamal is having a great year, but even in a weak div. the crows are still unimpressive. In other words he is not making enough of an impact.

          McNair is a playmaker, no question. However, I don't know if he can really lead his team to the dance.

          Basically, even though the question was who's MVP through wk 8, I don't see anyone being the hands down winner. A lot of contenders, but no convincing evidence.


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          • #20
            I thought .....

            I thought that the most valuable player goes to the player who if that player wasn't on that team that team would not succeed. That's why it won't be a chief because priest and dante cancel each other out. It hurts to have too many good players on your team. If jamal lewis wasn't on the ravens would the ravens still be succesful. Maybe not. So yes he is a MVP candidate. Would Tennesse be 6-2 without Mcnair ? Definitely not. Eddie george is not the same so Steve is the whole offense and is leading his team to wins. So he is also a canadidate. My opinion is that steve does and can do more than jamal lewis to help his team win. That's why I pick him as my MVP. PB that's my opinion and that's how i base it on. Peyton has marvin and James it's hard to say who does more. They cancel each other out. That's why I don't pick peyton.
            Bronco fan 33 years and counting, GO BRONCOS!

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            • #21
              horseface/front-runner fan/Monkey

              I LOVE PULLING THE CHAIN OF A TOUGH MONKEY LIKE YOU.

              I can tell that I am already under your skin. A few messages ago you stated that was it you were done with responding to me. A man that can't keep his word. Nice job Monkey.

              If either Portis or Plummer had a season like Manning or Jamal Lewis is having, then yes. Jamal not only ran for 100(+) yards against the Broncos an NFL record of 295 sure looks nice too. And Manning throwing for 6 touchdowns on the road is pretty dam good too.

              I did not say you were wrong on your original post. I said how original. I was looking for answer with a little more thought behind it, not just McNair. Have some stats, sell me on your point, don't just repeat what I hear on the TV every weekend.

              At least put a reason. McNair's team isn't even in first place. At least Jamal Lewis has put his team out front in his "weak" division. Has he or has he not elevated his team with his play?

              McNair is tough, but I don't think he has posted better numbers than Peyton Manning. So, for his position, I don't even rank him the top MVP canidate at the Quarterback spot.

              Someone did remind me about someone I forgot. Randy Moss! The guy has elevated his game this season and matured to the best receiver in the game. He has developed a team attitude and eventhough doubled/tripled team still makes plays. The man keeps playing like he is, there could very well be the MVP.
              Last edited by BroncoPhoenix; 10-30-2003, 03:12 PM.
              Bronco Pride is more than skin deep, it's to the bone.

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              • #22
                horseface/front-runner fan/Monkey

                You forgot one big stat and a bonus fact.

                Manning versus McNair, Colts 33 Titans 7!

                Plus an amazing comeback on Monday night football against the Bucs has to be considered with Manning as well.
                Bronco Pride is more than skin deep, it's to the bone.

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                • #23
                  But stats aren't everything. McNair brings a little toughness and (arguably) better leadership than Manning.

                  Either QB would make a good MVP choice, but I personally would lean towards Mcnair at this point.

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                  • #24
                    Why is this geting so serious?

                    People,people,people. Why is this getting personal?. I believe it's all opinion who gets the MVP isn't it? What happens when more than one player is nominated from a team they cancel each other I'm not making that up it happens in all sports. second who the all pro reciever that McNair throws to? No one. Where is eddie George? No where. So he is doing more with less. It's nice to have Marvin harrison and reggie wayne and edgerin james to throw and handoff to. The people who vote see that.
                    Bronco fan 33 years and counting, GO BRONCOS!

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