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  • Kapaibro
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    Originally posted by Archimedes Owl
    Sorry man, but committing suicide isn't selfish in any way. Now, it is true that the results of their suicide can cause pain and grief to others, but to commit suicide one must feel incredible pain. I don't really think that it's right to consider somebody who is in such pain a selfish person for wanting to end the pain.

    Anyway, suicide is always sad. Of course, the death of a young person like this is also always sad, but in my books suicide is even more sad because you realize that his life had to have been just horrible for him to resort to actually ending his own life to end the pain that he was feeling. I'm sorry, but I can only feel empathy for a person that feels such depression to resort to suicide. And if they succeed in committing suicide, it is even sadder, because if they had survived, you knew that they knew incredible pain, but that they may live to experience some of the joy of life. You could always hope for their life to improve.
    His pain is over, his family's has just begun. That's selfish, but if you want to disregard what those who work in the mental health sector say every single day, that's up to you.

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  • tpryce93
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    Originally posted by Southstander
    When I said alone I ment, with out family
    oh ok i got ya . should i dig up that suicide thread????

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  • Southstander
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    When I said alone I ment, with out family

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  • tpryce93
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    Originally posted by Archimedes Owl
    Sorry man, but committing suicide isn't selfish in any way. Now, it is true that the results of their suicide can cause pain and grief to others, but to commit suicide one must feel incredible pain. I don't really think that it's right to consider somebody who is in such pain a selfish person for wanting to end the pain.

    Anyway, suicide is always sad. Of course, the death of a young person like this is also always sad, but in my books suicide is even more sad because you realize that his life had to have been just horrible for him to resort to actually ending his own life to end the pain that he was feeling. I'm sorry, but I can only feel empathy for a person that feels such depression to resort to suicide. And if they succeed in committing suicide, it is even sadder, because if they had survived, you knew that they knew incredible pain, but that they may live to experience some of the joy of life. You could always hope for their life to improve.
    what did he have to feel so damn depressed about though????

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  • tpryce93
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    Originally posted by Southstander
    I agree, not to kick a man when he is down, or point fingers. If I was Tony and my son tired to take his life back in October, I would not let him live alone in a diffrent state. I would bring him home and get him some help.
    technically he wasnt living alone he had a roommate. kind of strange though maybe his roomate and his girlfriend did it or something hopefully what i just said doesnt start rumors.

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  • Archimedes Owl
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    Sorry man, but committing suicide isn't selfish in any way. Now, it is true that the results of their suicide can cause pain and grief to others, but to commit suicide one must feel incredible pain. I don't really think that it's right to consider somebody who is in such pain a selfish person for wanting to end the pain.

    Anyway, suicide is always sad. Of course, the death of a young person like this is also always sad, but in my books suicide is even more sad because you realize that his life had to have been just horrible for him to resort to actually ending his own life to end the pain that he was feeling. I'm sorry, but I can only feel empathy for a person that feels such depression to resort to suicide. And if they succeed in committing suicide, it is even sadder, because if they had survived, you knew that they knew incredible pain, but that they may live to experience some of the joy of life. You could always hope for their life to improve.

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  • Sevenis7
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    It's just sad all the way around. Let the family grieve.

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  • Kapaibro
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    Maybe I shouldn't have called him a name, but suicide is incredibly selfish. The gfuilt that those left behind suffer from is so immense it often drives them to such measures themselves. A family from my hometown lost one their sons(who I went to school with) to suicide.
    It devastated the entire family. The parents divorced, and eventually both parents killed themselves because they were so depressed and hurt by their sons actions. His brother and sister both have had ongoing issues with depression and have both attempted suicide and been committed to psYchiatric facilities(where my mother worked). None of them had any idea why he did this, as he left no note.
    He had had psychiatric help for previous attempts, and had shown his family that he was recovering(or appeared to be). The actions of one person destroyed the lives not only of his immediate family, but also of his friends.
    This is selfish behaviour! As a psych nurse, my mother has seen many people who have attempted suicide, and not one of them considered the feelings of their family and friends when they did this. They only wanted their pain to end and did not consider how their behaviour would affect their family. There were also a number of people who had been committed following suicides by their friends and family. Their feelings of helplessness drove them into deep depression regardless of wether or not the person concerned had left a note.

    Calling James Dungy a s**t may have been incorrect, but calling him selfish is not. Psychologists and psychiatrists all over the world all consider this to be one of the most selfish and devastating actions that one person can do that will afect another in such a dramatic fashion.

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  • broncos_chica
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    This is and was such a sad thing to happen to the Dungy family, I continue to keep them in my thoughts. But I do agree I don't think it should have been publicized as much as it was. Its not like James was the "famous" one. I have serveral different opinions on this matter but I don't want to stir up anything.

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  • Southstander
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    I agree with on the selfish litte .... line. However it is new, like with Isreals primeminsters strokes, or my brothers murder. In fact all the ink this story is getting my be a good thing, it might shed some light on the reason why he did, and the sign to look for, to maybe prevent this from happening to another familly

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  • armedequation
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    well if they want to see it then they can, what I am saying is that details about how his son died should not be a headline on foxsports or nfl or espn.

    I dont think anyone of us have the right to say anything about tony's son as none of us knew him or what was going on. I find that disrespectful to tony and to the rest of his family.

    "Yep, but man that kids is a selfish little s..t!"

    that right there proves my point. You can have your opinions about suicide in general but dont call someone names you dont know based on a situation you know nothing about. Please have a little bit more respect for the rest of the family than that

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  • Southstander
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    Originally posted by armedequation
    the fact that the media feels the need to publish how he died is a bunch of BS. This is private matters of the family not something the whole world should know about.


    the media makes me~~~~> when they do this
    It is public record, any can see it.

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  • armedequation
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    the fact that the media feels the need to publish how he died is a bunch of BS. This is private matters of the family not something the whole world should know about.


    the media makes me~~~~> when they do this

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  • Wanobe
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    Originally posted by DrunkPanda
    well, if he's unhappy enough to commit suicide, i guess his sadness was worse than the sadness of the people around him. it's not like he was one of the pretend-suiciders who don't actually want to die but pretend they do for attention

    i agree also disagree if that makes any sense?


    cause you can get help with stuff like that anti-depression pills always dont work but could help real help like a doctor of some sort and also if you know someone who has killed them selfs you would understand ( dont know you but im aussuming you dont?)

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  • DrunkPanda
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    Originally posted by Kapaibro
    Yep, but man that kids is a selfish little s..t! Committing suicide is sucha selfish thing to do. The people left behind will always wonder what they could have done to stop it, or to help. And Christams will now be a time of sadness rather than love and hope for the Dungy family. It's okay for him, his pain is over, but it will go on for his family and friends.
    well, if he's unhappy enough to commit suicide, i guess his sadness was worse than the sadness of the people around him. it's not like he was one of the pretend-suiciders who don't actually want to die but pretend they do for attention

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