why kc are hated in the nfl

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tahuya man think of it like this, you are in high school. your team has a whiz quiz team and the smartest member goes down and YOU have to replace him. You obviously dont know sh*t so you tell me, can you adjust and keep the team where it was?

[broncos4ever]

Originally posted by tahuya man
I'm glad that you can remember the complete injury report for every team every year. You're good. Do you remember the Rams winning the Superbowl wirth a backup QB who was not even in the NFL 7 months prior. They were without all pro D lineman Demarco Farr, and didn't have Marshall Faulk for several weeks. No excuses, just adjust and win.

Oh course I cannot remember injury reports for every team. Your statement was you named teams that had injuries and my response to you is that they do not have the injuries to as many star players and do well and if you can prove what you are trying to say with facts, then I will admit I am wrong. Injuries to star players are an excuse whether you want to admit it or not. An injury to a star player will even affect other players as far a morale and giving 100% all the time. Season ending injuries can also affect other players.

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Originally posted by broncos4ever
You are not listening!!! It does not matter what team you support!!! Take any team in the NFL, take away their quarterback and 4 of the top players on that team. Tell me they are going to win games and I will tell you, you are crazy.
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I'm saying that they can, because they have. I gave you several recent examples. Every team every has injuries to starting or important players every year.

All I am saying is back up what your saying. Take the challenge that I gave you and if you can't then what you are saying is not true.

I'm saying that they can, because they have. (This was the statement that you made.)

[Elway]

Marshall Faulk played in all 16 games the year they went to the superbowl. Rushed for 1381 yards, and caught passes for another 1048.

[broncos4ever]

Originally posted by tahuya man
I'm saying that they can, because they have. I gave you several recent examples. Every team every has injuries to starting or important players every year.

O.K. from your examples this is the quote...

"Man, you're really hung up on this Plummer thing. I didn't see N.E. crying when they lost Bledsoe, they just went out and won the suoerbowl without him. Same when the Rams lost Trent Green, they just put the excuses aside and won with Warner. Like I said , good teams and coaching staffs adjust and drive on."


Your examples are N.E. and Rams when the lost their quarterbacks... What other four players did they lose??? Remember we have two starting linebackers on IR and a second string backup quarterback on IR. Let alone two games without Clinton Portis being healthy.

Give me some facts man. I don't think you can back up your statements. If you can I will admit I am wrong. Otherwise you need to admit our injuries made it near impossible to win those games and will hurt us in the future games of this year.

[Javalon]

Originally posted by tahuya man
He lasted for what 16 or 17 years? Something like that. He must have been doing something right to last that long. Teams don't keep players around unless you produce. Pretty impressive resume if you ask me.

Hey, I liked Steve. But at some point you get too old to play the game effectively. Most QB's don't make it to his age and still play well.

I just think the NFL had finally passed him by.

[Elway]

Steve as a back-up for the Broncos won 2 games, the Cardinals last year and Pittsburgh this year. Hardly an impressive resume for keeping him. The Panthers knew what they were doing when they released him, and he was having surgery.

[broncos4ever]

Originally posted by tahuya man
I'd take Beuerlein as a back up any day. He's stepped in and done the job in the past as both a starter and back up. Injuries happen, tough luck. You're right if you're saying that Shanahan was not prepared and hasn't done a good job of dealing with his injuries.

You are not listening!!! It does not matter what team you support!!! Take any team in the NFL, take away their quarterback and 4 of the top players on that team. Tell me they are going to win games and I will tell you, you are crazy.

[Javalon]

Originally posted by tahuya man
I'd take Beuerlein as a back up any day. He's stepped in and done the job in the past as both a starter and back up. Injuries happen, tough luck. You're right if you're saying that Shanahan was not prepared and hasn't done a good job of dealing with his injuries.

Beuerlein was a great backup. Past tense. The dude's 38 years old and in his 17th season. His arm appeared on a serious decline and he was completely immobile in the backfield, a sitting duck. Again, the rest of our season pretty much rests on Plummer's health. I hope we have better backup QB's next season.

[Javalon]

Originally posted by tahuya man
Man, you're really hung up on this Plummer thing. I didn't see N.E. crying when they lost Bledsoe, they just went out and won the suoerbowl without him. Same when the Rams lost Trent Green, they just put the excuses aside and won with Warner. Like I said , good teams and coaching staffs adjust and drive on.

That's a good point. But both those teams had hidden gems at their backup QB spot that are still the starters and are better QB's than the guys who used to start in front of them.

Let's face it. The Broncos' backup QB's sucked. No hidden gems there. That's Shanny's fault for thinking Beuerlein's creaky old joints could still hurl the ball with accuracy. He'd better fix that problem next season. In the meantime, there's no doubt our offense is completely different now than when Jake was starting.

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Originally posted by tahuya man
First of all, I'm not a Chiefs fan at all. Priest Holmes is an MVP quality player, Plummer is not. Every team has to deal with injuries, period. Good teams have players step up and cover for the injured players, Denver hasn't maybe KC would.

well it doesnt matter whose fan you are you are defintly not a bronco fan. ask anybody who is the best for the broncos and youll get plummer! look at the record with and without him and tell me he isnt most valuable quality. if you want more proof than the record look at his numbers for the last 4 games he played in. 0 INT to 8 TD!!

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if you still dont get it you will when plummr gets back!!

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damn it. omg, ok let me see. you're a chief fan? ok, say you lose your 5 best players, thats preist holmes(speaking of average, plummer is to the broncos what holmes is to kc), whoever his backup is, dante hall, jonnie morton and shawn barber for 4 games, are you really 8-0? no, but of course you would be if you had them in right? thats all i'm sayin.

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Originally posted by tahuya man
Also, N.E. had more starting players out than the Broncos did on Monday night.

lets see, they had their qb, rb, wr, all their lb, and their best safety? what the hell were you talking about? we mised our key qb wr LT two lb and they missed 1 key DT and a couple non vital positions? dont try that either!

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Originally posted by tahuya man
If your team was 8-0 at the halfway point you would claim they are #1. KC is the best in the AFC right now until proven otherwise. Making claims about how other teams would cope with injuries is nonsensical. Players have made thier carreer by filling in for an injured player (Tom Brady anyone?) Claiming KC would be lower than 500 is wishfull thinking on your part. Also, N.E. had more starting players out than the Broncos did on Monday night.

they werent on their 3 qb you know, the most important position on the team! also if we were 8-0 you better believe there would be people justifying our success especially if we went to other boards and bragged so dont try that

[Elway]

It's all nice coach speak to say guys have to step up when you have injuries, but if those players stepping up had the skills to be starters they wouldn't be back-up to begin with. You are rarely if ever going to see a second stringer play as well as a first, when you have multiple injuries you're whole team is down graded. The difference over the last 4 weeks is injuries. Would we have won allfour games, probably not, would we have won more than one, hell yes.

KC has the best record at this point in the NFL, but that doesn't neccessarily make them the best overall team. They are not #1 in offense or defense but are doing just enough and getting the needed nreaks to win.