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    I find it kind of funny that Charley Casserly(the texans GM) resigns from his possition after arguably making one of dumbest draft day mistakes in not drafting Reggie Bush. He makes that dumb of a decision and leaves Kubiak to deal with the heat.

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    Charley Casserly is moving up, not out

    Casserly is a highly respected businessman that is headed for the NFL Commissioner's office. Some think he made the best decision drafting Williams instead of Bush. Either way, we won't know for a couple of seasons if the decision was a good one, or not, so I don't think the "dumb" choice has anything to do with his move upward in the NFL business world.

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    • #3
      I would think that anyone who thought that Kubiak, a rookie coach, had the power to make a decision like that doesn't know what they are talking about.


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      • #4
        Originally posted by jvw
        I find it kind of funny that Charley Casserly(the texans GM) resigns from his possition after arguably making one of dumbest draft day mistakes in not drafting Reggie Bush. He makes that dumb of a decision and leaves Kubiak to deal with the heat.
        It was dumb picking Williams, not because they could have had Bush (that would have been only slightly less "dumb"). It was dumb because they could have traded back, drafted D'Brick (an actual need on their team), and and acquired an additional early round pick or two.
        Last edited by BroncoFanCam; 05-11-2006, 09:03 PM.


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        • #5
          Originally posted by BroncoFanCam
          It was dumb picking Williams, not because they could have had Bush (that would have been only slightly less "dumb"). It was dumb because they could have traded back, drafted D'Brick (an actual need on their team), and and acquired an additional early round pick or two.
          They could not trade back. No one would give them value for their draft pick. It was a very smart move to take Williams with the top pick because the Texans defense sucks.

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          • #6
            It was a risky move (and thus, stupid). Look at these two scenarios

            1) Hypothetical - If they had drafted Bush who was a bust and Williams became a success, they'd be dissapointed but the fans would support them.

            2) Reality - If Williams turns out to be a bust and Bush becomes a success, the fans will stop supporting the franchise.

            The move was very risky in a business sense. They have introduced a wave of cynacism into the city. Being that I'm in Houston, I hope it turns out for the best.


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            • #7
              Originally posted by SwiftBlackNinja
              They could not trade back. No one would give them value for their draft pick. It was a very smart move to take Williams with the top pick because the Texans defense sucks.
              They were not being given value according to the draft value chart, but they could have drafted the same player for significantly less money and snagged a good pick to boot. The value chart has almost no value at the very top of the draft. In every draft the value chart is only an approximation as the talent from draft to draft will always vary, but at the very top of the drafts, the talent varies quite a bit, so it is particularly useless. The situation in this draft probably would have allowed them to trade back without losing much.

              Of course, if they rated Williams very high, it could be a risk to pass on him. If they traded back with the Jets, there is a chance that he would be gone and they'd have to settle for D'Brickshaw Ferguson.

              Really, in the end, considering the circumstances and what the teams around them were likely to do, it wasn't such a bad move to pick Williams where they were. The teams directly behind them weren't in a huge hurry to move up and if they moved back, they would have risked him being gone. Normally, they could also save money by moving back, but when you consider that they negotiated a good deal with Williams anyway, it doesn't seem so bad.

              As for the choice of Williams over Bush. I can't complain. In Williams they get a player with great promise at a position of need. In Bush, they pass on a player with slightly greater promise, but who was at a position that is less needed and at a position where it is easier to find good talent.

              To me, they made the right choice, but if they could have traded back, the move would be even better.
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              • #8
                Getting Reggie coulds crew the O because then they'd do a rotation or something because Domanick Davis is quite good.
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jvw
                  I find it kind of funny that Charley Casserly(the texans GM) resigns from his possition after arguably making one of dumbest draft day mistakes in not drafting Reggie Bush. He makes that dumb of a decision and leaves Kubiak to deal with the heat.
                  Championship teams are built through a great Defense. I thought it was the most logical choice. Of course, it wasn't the flashy, popular pick. With Kubiak now implimenting the Broncos zone blocking Offensive, they can utilize Dominick Davis much better. He's a good back, so why not grab a dominating DE. Now the Saints have Bush AND McCalister. To me, that was a bad choice.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by BroncoFanCam
                    It was dumb picking Williams, not because they could have had Bush (that would have been only slightly less "dumb"). It was dumb because they could have traded back, drafted D'Brick (an actual need on their team), and and acquired an additional early round pick or two.
                    Which they really need. They have no offensive line whatsever. This is why David Carr just about gets killed each year. But with Kub being there, I belive they will improve
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by PatrickdaDookie
                      It was a risky move (and thus, stupid). Look at these two scenarios

                      1) Hypothetical - If they had drafted Bush who was a bust and Williams became a success, they'd be dissapointed but the fans would support them.

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                      How the hell do you know that?

                      Usually fans of a team that picks a bust are not happy with the organization for it, regardless of what the player did on the college level.
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                      • #12
                        post this a few years from now, a lineman on either side of the ball would have been better than reggie, allowing as many sacks as they do is wrong, and not getting any sacks is wrong, what were they the 31st team in the league in D?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Denver Native
                          I would think that anyone who thought that Kubiak, a rookie coach, had the power to make a decision like that doesn't know what they are talking about.
                          read the post before you speak, I stated that Charlie made the pick and left Kubiak to deal with it :wave:

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by SwiftBlackNinja
                            They could not trade back. No one would give them value for their draft pick. It was a very smart move to take Williams with the top pick because the Texans defense sucks.
                            Bull crap...

                            You can't tell me the Jets wouldn't have given them a 2nd rounder, + #4 for that top pick.

                            No the "points value" doesn't add up, but it isn't about points, it is about what is best for your team .


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                            • #15
                              I heard on ESPN radio today that it was the owners decision to go with willams.

                              Bush kept insisting on 26mil guaranteed and was involved in the negotiations instead of letting the agent do it.

                              It pissed off the owner and told Casserly to make the deal with Mario.

                              Casserly had decided to leave after the owner brought dan reeves in as a consultant.

                              Just could not go before the draft.

                              Maybe he is available as a real GM for DEN. One of the top football minds in the game Him and Gibbs built the WAS dynasty the first time.

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