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  • #31
    1. Carolina- Ken Lucas, Chris Gamble
    2. Kansas City- Patrick Surtain, Ty Law
    3. Baltimore- Chris McAlister, Samari Rolle
    4. Philadelphia- Sheldon Brown, Lito Sheppard
    5. Denver- Champ Bailey, Darrent Williams
    6. Dallas- Anthony Henry, Terence Newman
    7. Tampa Bay- Ronde Barber, Brian Kelly
    8. Washington- Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers
    9. Chicago- Charles Tillman, Nathan Vasher
    10. Minnesota- Antoine Winfield, Fred Smoot
    11. Buffalo- Nate Clements, Terrence McGee
    12. Green Bay- Al Harris, Charles Woodson
    13. Cincinnati- Deltha O'Neal, Tory James

    Those are the only teams I think are worthy of mention. There are teams (like the 2005 Chiefs) who have a good #1 but nobody opposite of him worthy of mention (like Detroit with Dre' Bly or Seattle with Marcus Trufant).
    That is a post that I made on another messageboard. I know most of you won't agree with the Chiefs being so high but that's fine.

    Everybody thinks that Surtain and Law being old makes them not good any more. I could say Rod Smith is too old to be good but that simply isn't true. It doesn't matter how old a player is if they continue to perform at a high level, and both Law and Surtain have continued to perform at a high level. The thing is, Ty Law was still injured all of last year when he had his career year in interceptions. He is now completely healthy and in alot better shape. Cornerbacks in a cover 2 don't have to be the fastest in the world and can get by with there physical play and intelligence, things that are both strengths of Surtain and Law.


    On a side note, I think in a couple of years the best cornerback tandem is going to be DeAngelo Hall and Jimmy Williams.
    "And we all know that stats don't mean anything if you don't have the wins to back them up"-ChampWJ

    It's a good thing Jay Cutler was a proven winner in college. Oh wait, nevermind.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by chickennob2
      After that kind of rookie season, how much more do they need to do to "prove it" ?
      You just said it yourself. After that ROOKIE season. Players have solid rookie seasons all the time but fail to improve after that. If you would base a players career off of his rookie season, Kendrell Bell would be a perennial pro bowler.
      "And we all know that stats don't mean anything if you don't have the wins to back them up"-ChampWJ

      It's a good thing Jay Cutler was a proven winner in college. Oh wait, nevermind.

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      • #33
        McCallister and Rolle are number one, easily. They're both (combined) relatively young and still in their prime (McCallister coming off a solid bounce-back season).


        "When Kepler found his long-cherished belief did not agree with the most precise observation, he accepted the uncomfortable fact. He preferred the hard truth to his dearest illusions; that is the heart of science."
        - Carl Sagan

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        • #34
          Originally posted by NameUsedBefore
          McCallister and Rolle are number one, easily. They're both (combined) relatively young and still in their prime (McCallister coming off a solid bounce-back season).
          They are not all that young. Chris McAllister is 29 and Samari Rolle will turn 30 next month. You can't just say they are "easily" number one. They didn't have very good years last year and there are plenty of teams that could compete for the top spot (like Carolina).
          "And we all know that stats don't mean anything if you don't have the wins to back them up"-ChampWJ

          It's a good thing Jay Cutler was a proven winner in college. Oh wait, nevermind.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by str8jacket
            Law lead the league in INTs last year, i think its possible they are a top 5 duo despite age
            they had a better pash rush, though. (Abraham)
            Go Huskers.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Nick7
              they had a better pash rush, though. (Abraham)
              Abraham by himself didn't provide a better pass rush, considering he had 10.5 sacks and Jared Allen had 11. And as a team, the Jets only had 30 sacks compared to the Chiefs' 29 sacks. I don't think the pass rush was all that different.
              "And we all know that stats don't mean anything if you don't have the wins to back them up"-ChampWJ

              It's a good thing Jay Cutler was a proven winner in college. Oh wait, nevermind.

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              • #37
                I think it does suck for us that they signed Ty Law.

                Gunther Cunningham now gets to play mad scientist with his front 7 to generate a pass rush and stop the run.

                I don't know about top honors, but on paper KC is up there.
                You've got to know when to sack em...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Nas
                  I think it does suck for us that they signed Ty Law.

                  Gunther Cunningham now gets to play mad scientist with his front 7 to generate a pass rush and stop the run.

                  I don't know about top honors, but on paper KC is up there.
                  Yep, we'll just have to see how it turns out.
                  "And we all know that stats don't mean anything if you don't have the wins to back them up"-ChampWJ

                  It's a good thing Jay Cutler was a proven winner in college. Oh wait, nevermind.

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                  • #39
                    Chicago is a little underrated
                    Go Broncos, make me keep believing this year

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by kmartin575
                      Abraham by himself didn't provide a better pass rush, considering he had 10.5 sacks and Jared Allen had 11. And as a team, the Jets only had 30 sacks compared to the Chiefs' 29 sacks. I don't think the pass rush was all that different.

                      Yes!!!

                      Thank you for the token Jared Allen stat line.

                      Its been a while, nice to see that we could get it out of you.

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                      • #41
                        KC top 5 CB duo? No, Law had a good season last year, but I don't expect the same.


                        My top 5:

                        Carolina
                        Tampa Bay
                        Philly
                        Jacksonville
                        Denver



                        For whoever said the Vikings Smoot and Winfield. Guess who didn't start after returning from injury? Fred Smoot. Guess who held his spot? Brian Williams, who is now a Jag.

                        Sorry, you can not add yourself to your own ignore list.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by The|Snake#16
                          KC top 5 CB duo? No, Law had a good season last year, but I don't expect the same.


                          My top 5:

                          Carolina
                          Tampa Bay
                          Philly
                          Jacksonville
                          Denver



                          For whoever said the Vikings Smoot and Winfield. Guess who didn't start after returning from injury? Fred Smoot. Guess who held his spot? Brian Williams, who is now a Jag.
                          Sorry, I just see Denver as a top 5 duo (yet). The young corners had a good year last year but it's too soon to say they are anywhere near the level of some of the better corners in the league. They have the talent but they need to show they can raise there game to a higher level and be consistent.
                          "And we all know that stats don't mean anything if you don't have the wins to back them up"-ChampWJ

                          It's a good thing Jay Cutler was a proven winner in college. Oh wait, nevermind.

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