Chief Have The Best Corner Duo?

[kmartin575]

KC top 5 CB duo? No, Law had a good season last year, but I don't expect the same.


My top 5:

Carolina
Tampa Bay
Philly
Jacksonville
Denver



For whoever said the Vikings Smoot and Winfield. Guess who didn't start after returning from injury? Fred Smoot. Guess who held his spot? Brian Williams, who is now a Jag.

Sorry, I just see Denver as a top 5 duo (yet). The young corners had a good year last year but it's too soon to say they are anywhere near the level of some of the better corners in the league. They have the talent but they need to show they can raise there game to a higher level and be consistent.

[The|Snake#16]

KC top 5 CB duo? No, Law had a good season last year, but I don't expect the same.


My top 5:

Carolina
Tampa Bay
Philly
Jacksonville
Denver



For whoever said the Vikings Smoot and Winfield. Guess who didn't start after returning from injury? Fred Smoot. Guess who held his spot? Brian Williams, who is now a Jag.

[pipes]

Abraham by himself didn't provide a better pass rush, considering he had 10.5 sacks and Jared Allen had 11. And as a team, the Jets only had 30 sacks compared to the Chiefs' 29 sacks. I don't think the pass rush was all that different.

Yes!!!

Thank you for the token Jared Allen stat line.

Its been a while, nice to see that we could get it out of you.

[MN-Broncofreak]

Chicago is a little underrated

[kmartin575]

I think it does suck for us that they signed Ty Law.

Gunther Cunningham now gets to play mad scientist with his front 7 to generate a pass rush and stop the run.

I don't know about top honors, but on paper KC is up there.

Yep, we'll just have to see how it turns out.

[Freestyle]

I think it does suck for us that they signed Ty Law.

Gunther Cunningham now gets to play mad scientist with his front 7 to generate a pass rush and stop the run.

I don't know about top honors, but on paper KC is up there.

[kmartin575]

they had a better pash rush, though. (Abraham)

Abraham by himself didn't provide a better pass rush, considering he had 10.5 sacks and Jared Allen had 11. And as a team, the Jets only had 30 sacks compared to the Chiefs' 29 sacks. I don't think the pass rush was all that different.

[Nick7]

Law lead the league in INTs last year, i think its possible they are a top 5 duo despite age

they had a better pash rush, though. (Abraham)

[kmartin575]

McCallister and Rolle are number one, easily. They're both (combined) relatively young and still in their prime (McCallister coming off a solid bounce-back season).

They are not all that young. Chris McAllister is 29 and Samari Rolle will turn 30 next month. You can't just say they are "easily" number one. They didn't have very good years last year and there are plenty of teams that could compete for the top spot (like Carolina).

[NameUsedBefore]

McCallister and Rolle are number one, easily. They're both (combined) relatively young and still in their prime (McCallister coming off a solid bounce-back season).

[kmartin575]

After that kind of rookie season, how much more do they need to do to "prove it" ?

You just said it yourself. After that ROOKIE season. Players have solid rookie seasons all the time but fail to improve after that. If you would base a players career off of his rookie season, Kendrell Bell would be a perennial pro bowler.

[kmartin575]

1. Carolina- Ken Lucas, Chris Gamble
2. Kansas City- Patrick Surtain, Ty Law
3. Baltimore- Chris McAlister, Samari Rolle
4. Philadelphia- Sheldon Brown, Lito Sheppard
5. Denver- Champ Bailey, Darrent Williams
6. Dallas- Anthony Henry, Terence Newman
7. Tampa Bay- Ronde Barber, Brian Kelly
8. Washington- Shawn Springs, Carlos Rogers
9. Chicago- Charles Tillman, Nathan Vasher
10. Minnesota- Antoine Winfield, Fred Smoot
11. Buffalo- Nate Clements, Terrence McGee
12. Green Bay- Al Harris, Charles Woodson
13. Cincinnati- Deltha O'Neal, Tory James

Those are the only teams I think are worthy of mention. There are teams (like the 2005 Chiefs) who have a good #1 but nobody opposite of him worthy of mention (like Detroit with Dre' Bly or Seattle with Marcus Trufant).

That is a post that I made on another messageboard. I know most of you won't agree with the Chiefs being so high but that's fine.

Everybody thinks that Surtain and Law being old makes them not good any more. I could say Rod Smith is too old to be good but that simply isn't true. It doesn't matter how old a player is if they continue to perform at a high level, and both Law and Surtain have continued to perform at a high level. The thing is, Ty Law was still injured all of last year when he had his career year in interceptions. He is now completely healthy and in alot better shape. Cornerbacks in a cover 2 don't have to be the fastest in the world and can get by with there physical play and intelligence, things that are both strengths of Surtain and Law.


On a side note, I think in a couple of years the best cornerback tandem is going to be DeAngelo Hall and Jimmy Williams.

[kmartin575]

The thing is though

Surtain is 30 and Law is 34
so this window of "elite CB duo" is only 2-3 years at best.
But ill agree that it is a top 5, i think theyll pull in a good bit of INT's and make alot of teams one dimensional on offense.


My Top 5

1. Carolina
2. Chicago
3. Jacksonville
4. Baltimore
5. Kansas City

One CB duo on the rise is ours. If Darrent can continue improving along with the best Corner in the league, we will break into the elite status, and be there for years to come. Our CB core has so much potential in it, that we should be set for a long time.

Law is 32.

[UnderArmour]

Wanna know something? Having the best Corners doesn't mean squat if you don't have good safeties...

[chickennob2]

Yep, Cincinnati. Those guys are ballhawks, and it's good to see Deltha O'Neal live up to his potential, even though it's not with my favorite team. Champ Bailey is a top 5 corner for sure but D-Will or Fox have more to prove before this CB tandem is considered elite.

After that kind of rookie season, how much more do they need to do to "prove it" ?